Senator Sues God

[Reptile]

God's gonna kick some ass

 

[teseract]

I'm a Christian myself, and I share your thoughts. That last line, about The Bible being written by man, is very true. I've always toiled with the idea that man's own prejudices are in The Bible or that some things were misinterpreted.

There's some things in it that are a bit bothersome. Like, I can't imagine God condemning gays but okaying slavery.

One thing I have learned about the bible is that it works like a window into the soul. In the hands of a good man it will show goodness, in the hands of a vile man the same verse will bring forth his wickedness for all to see. The problem is, such a book does not work well in etablishing morals.

 

[Lackey]

And your argument dies right here...

Wilhelm was arguing within the context of the Bible, so no it doesn't.


Or else we could just say "God doesn't exist and neither does free will, so why even speak of nonsense such as why does a fictional God allow bad things to happen to people that don't 'deserve' it."

 

[LegendaryCaleb]

God FTW

 

[blind_fury]

One thing I have learned about the bible is that it works like a window into the soul. In the hands of a good man it will show goodness, in the hands of a vile man the same verse will bring forth his wickedness for all to see. The problem is, such a book does not work well in etablishing morals.

It works well as a catalyst for charity and altruism. Better than most literary works be they fictional or non-fictional.

 

[The Chairman]

One thing I have learned about the bible is that it works like a window into the soul. In the hands of a good man it will show goodness, in the hands of a vile man the same verse will bring forth his wickedness for all to see. The problem is, such a book does not work well in etablishing morals.

I agree. But I disagree with you on morals. There's definitely some excellent lessons given by Christ.

 

[bullets]

i dont think as a nation we trust god anymore.

 

[Wilhelm-Scream]

I can't imagine God condemning gays but okaying slavery.

He very explicitly does, if the Bible's true.
This is what I will never understand, the desperate need to cling to the Bible in the face of it's evil. X 1,000,000
Squirming to find a way to make the nice parts true, and ignore and excuse the bad parts...
No, it's all part of the same package. The same guys who are describing this God to you, are the same guys who would've apparently "added in their own prejudice and agendas".....so you shouldn't believe them.

And if God loves us, and salvation is a matter of life and death, why are these mere humans more powerful than GOD himself?!

'Cause God wants his message to come down through the ages, but is powerless to use his BlackHole, Sun and Earth-creating POWERS to keep men from perverting and twisting THE WORD OF GOD?!?

Nope, makes zero sense.

 

[Wilhelm-Scream]

There's definitely some excellent lessons given by Christ.

So true...as in all religions.
It doesn't mean they're all true.

3 guys can say "We should feed the poor."

If they all agree, but the third one says "We should feed the poor.



also, Gay people are an abomination and slaves should shut up and do exactly what their masters say "

wull see....you have to eliminate that guy.
A child molester can donate a million dollars to The Red Cross.
It doesn't excuse his molestation at ALL.


Hilter was VERY kind to his dog.

 

[blind_fury]

He very explicitly does, if the Bible's true.
This is what I will never understand, the desperate need to cling to the Bible in the face of it's evil. X 1,000,000
Squirming to find a way to make the nice parts true, and ignore and excuse the bad parts...
No, it's all part of the same package. The same guys who are describing this God to you, are the same guys who would've apparently "added in their own prejudice and agendas".....so you shouldn't believe them.

And if God loves us, and salvation is a matter of life and death, why are these mere humans more powerful than GOD himself?!

'Cause God wants his message to come down through the ages, but is powerless to use his BlackHole, Sun and Earth-creating POWERS to keep men from perverting and twisting THE WORD OF GOD?!?

Nope, makes zero sense.

That's the reason basic gnosticism (not to be confused with Agnosticism) has more practical applications for finding a path in tune with God.

Especially if you're weary of authority figures inside and outside the church.

 

[bullets]

i was hoping god would strike this guy with lightning , now god is all pacifist

 

[blind_fury]

So true...as in all religions.
It doesn't mean they're all true.

3 guys can say "We should feed the poor."

If they all agree, but the third one says "We should feed the poor.



also, Gay people are an abomination and slaves should shut up and do exactly what their masters say "

wull see....you have to eliminate that guy.
A child molester can donate a million dollars to The Red Cross.
It doesn't excuse his molestation at ALL.


Hilter was VERY kind to his dog.

The bible is ambiguous and cryptic for a reason. It's to separate those who will inherit the Kingdom from the poseurs.

 

[gregtestagent]

I didn't know that the lord was so into litigations. Why not respond with with a good old fashioned rain of sulfur and fire?

 

[Lackey]

i was hoping god would strike this guy with lightning , now god is all pacifist

yeah, what happened to the good ol' city-destroying days.

 

[sinewave]

damn, i spent all that time crafting a long response to several posters and it ends up on the bottom of the previous page where no one will see it.

 

[blind_fury]

God FTW

as if there's any other possibility.

 

[teseract]

The bible is ambiguous and cryptic for a reason. It's to separate those who will inherit the Kingdom from the poseurs.

Hmmm, if that's the case then how come that the poseurs are the ones opressing the good decent people with the bible as their club?

 

[blind_fury]

Well there's a healthy mix of skeptics, agnostics and faithful on the hype today. t:

 

[teseract]

It works well as a catalyst for charity and altruism. Better than most literary works be they fictional or non-fictional.

And yet at the same time it works as a catalyst for the most vile acts. Sounds like the good is negated by the bad the bible does. So, if it comes out at zero why not get rid of it alltogether and rely on something less two faced?

 

[blind_fury]

Hmmm, if that's the case then how come that the poseurs are the ones opressing the good decent people with the bible as their club?

There only fooling themselves and fellow poseurs.

God is the one with the billions IQ. He can sort out the genuine far better than you or me.

 

[Wilhelm-Scream]

The bible is ambiguous and cryptic for a reason. It's to separate those who will inherit the Kingdom from the poseurs.

The problem of how explicitly clear it is is a way larger problem than how vague it is.

Don't lie
Don't Steal
Kill all the babies in the neighboring village

That's the God people are devoting their lives to.

 

[teseract]

There only fooling themselves and fellow poseurs.

God is the one with the billions IQ. He can sort out the genuine far better than you or me.

Ah, so god says "well let the good suffer so I can sort out the evil doers better" I bet everyone who has suffered under the poseurs will be thankfull for that. It makes me almost wish that God does exist so I can see how a gay pal of mine will spit into Gods face at the end of days because of all the **** he had to go through thanks to God's way of making the poseurs known. Heck I will spit after my pal then just to hammer the point home to his "Allmightyness".

 

[blind_fury]

And yet at the same time it works as a catalyst for the most vile acts. Sounds like the good is negated by the bad the bible does. So, if it comes out at zero why not get rid of it alltogether and rely on something less two faced?

You're assuming that the the vile acts outweigh the acts of goodwill done in God's name.

How can you be quantitatively sure.

And I'm not suggesting anyone rely on any single belief or document. Just be open to learn from anything. The Bible has wisdom in it even though many parts seem like insane gibberish.

Read psalms sometime and argue against the reasoning of the content itself.

 

[Wilhelm-Scream]

everything in the universe has to do with choices, according to the Bible. Mee already stated this

Right. The reason there is suffering is NOt because God grants us Free Will.

It is because God CURSED us based on the disobedience of TWO people.
That's what I'm saying.
It has nothing to DO with Free Will, because Adam and Eve HAD Free Will before the FALL...and they could've used it to avoid the FotTotKoGaE, but to commit OTHER sins that wouldn't've precipitated the FALL.

The suffering is God's insane CURSE.
GOD did it, and GOD knew they'd rebel if he gave them access to the FotTotKoGaE, but he did it anyway, MEANING, your Biblical God Created Evil because he wanted it, and he CREATED Pain and Suffering because it wasn't there and it's what he WANTED.

God COULD'VE lived by his own rules and FORGIVEN them. But instead, he insanely wanted to punish not only them, but uncountable BILLIONS of people who weren't ever BORN YET!

God, LOGIC, lets get into it!

 

[teseract]

You're assuming that the the vile acts outweigh the acts of goodwill done in God's name.

How can you be quantitatively sure.

And I'm not suggesting anyone rely on any single belief or document. Just be open to learn from anything. The Bible has wisdom in it even though many parts seem like insane gibberish.

Read psalms sometime and argue against the reasoning of the content itself.

Suffering cannot be excused by doing good deeds. If even one vile act is commited against a human being in the name fo the bible a million good deeds inspired by it will not absolve that one act. Making another human being suffer is a too severe thing.

I read the Bible, that's why I'm an atheist now. My moral convictions would keep me from becoming a christian. I cannot ****ship a deity that does the things written in the Bible, I despise evil too much to do such a thing.