Discussion: The REPUBLICAN Party VI

[Schlosser85]

But isnt smoking cool and patriotic?

Sure, in the 1970s, which is what this commercial looks like it straight out of.

 

[8wid]

^Smoking sure is...

 

[obin_gam]

Also - take the country back from whom? A democratic elected official?

Move over Michelle, this dude is my new hero!

 

[Marx]

Cain's latest commercial is absolutely ridiculous.

 

[Schlosser85]

^ Much like everything else about Cain.

"My religious beliefs tell me that gay people are not born gay."

Oh, well, the ***** I get for dudes tells me I am.

 

[hippie_hunter]

Cain's latest commercial is absolutely ridiculous.

Ridiculously awesome that is

 

[hippie_hunter]

^ Much like everything else about Cain.

"My religious beliefs tell me that gay people are not born gay."

Oh, well, the ***** I get for dudes tells me I am.

I'm not the biggest proponent of people being born gay, but the argument that people choose to be gay is one of the dumbest things I have ever heard.

 

[Marx]

Ridiculously awesome that is

Sure. We'll go with that.

 

[hippie_hunter]

Sure. We'll go with that.

Come on just look at how cheesy that theme song is. The cliched smiling pose that Cain gives in the end. The smoking guy. It's just so bad, that I love it.

It's almost as awesome as this ad:

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[Marx]

Come on just look at how cheesy that theme song is. The cliched smiling pose that Cain gives in the end. The smoking guy. It's just so bad, that I love it.

It's definitely bad. I'll give you that man.

It's almost as awesome as this ad:

[YT]OGnE83A1Z4U[/YT]

Oh my god!

 

[Marx]

UPDATE: JON STEWART CALLS OUT REPUBLICANS FOR LACK OF IRAQ TROOP WITHDRAWL SUPPORT
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/10/25/jon-stewart-iraq-withdrawal-republicans_n_1030127.html

 

[Venom'sDad]

Cain's latest commercial is absolutely ridiculous.

People don't get it.... and the pondents sure in hell don't get. I have to admit, I can see how it can be so confusing...but these "know it all" pondents, regardless of what spectrum they hail from, repeat the same clueless talking points.

The guy is suppose to be a real, average, regular guy, American who is force to smoke outside. I don't smoke; but, Smokers who have to go outside in smoke especially in groups(like gathering around the water cooler, discussing politics, tv shows, games, health, simple gossip, jobs, who's dating who, etc) understand the symbolic nature of "the guy" supporting and working for Cain, campaigning for Cain, outside, in the smokers zone. Smokers feels alienated, because of their "choice" to smoke. This guy is suppose to be(badly done) one of those regular, everyday, American, smoker.

I don't know if it help or hurt Cain....it certainly created more buzz, on top of 9-9-9. Not sure it was needed....should have touched on other issues outside of 9-9-9....so voters can get a better feel of his other platforms.

 

[Marx]

UPDATE: "JOE THE PLUMBER" LAUNCHES CONGRESSIONAL BID
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2011/10/25/joe-the-plumber-launches-bid-for-congress/

 

[wiegeabo]

Wait, what?

 

[Marx]

You read that right Wieg. "Joe the Plumber" whose name isn't really Joe and who isn't really a plumber, is running for congress here in Ohio.

 

[Marx]

TELEVANGELIST PAT ROBERTSON: GOP PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATES NEED TO "LAY OFF" EXTREMIST RHETORIC
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/10/25/pat-robertson-comments-gop_n_1030534.html

When you've gotten to the point that PAT ROBERTSON is telling you that you're getting too conservative, you've got problems.

 

[Schlosser85]

Pat Robertson telling other people to lay off extremist rhetoric is hilarious.

 

[DACrowe]

People don't get it.... and the pondents sure in hell don't get. I have to admit, I can see how it can be so confusing...but these "know it all" pondents, regardless of what spectrum they hail from, repeat the same clueless talking points.

The guy is suppose to be a real, average, regular guy, American who is force to smoke outside. I don't smoke; but, Smokers who have to go outside in smoke especially in groups(like gathering around the water cooler, discussing politics, tv shows, games, health, simple gossip, jobs, who's dating who, etc) understand the symbolic nature of "the guy" supporting and working for Cain, campaigning for Cain, outside, in the smokers zone. Smokers feels alienated, because of their "choice" to smoke. This guy is suppose to be(badly done) one of those regular, everyday, American, smoker.

I don't know if it help or hurt Cain....it certainly created more buzz, on top of 9-9-9. Not sure it was needed....should have touched on other issues outside of 9-9-9....so voters can get a better feel of his other platforms.

Methinks you overthought that. He's smoking because they think the image looks cool. Colbert had a great segment tonight making fun of it. "Smoking is cool! Just ask John Wayne, Humphrey Bogart and the Marlboro Man," as he showed their tombstones.

The commercial I thought was hilarious because it tried to use smoking as a way to win votes and then had that ridiculous "I am America!" song with the ultra-slow Cain smile. I felt like I was watching a fake political ad that Andy Samberg might dream up.

 

[DACrowe]

Anyway....

RICK PERRY REVEALS HIMSELF TO BE A BIRTHER AND QUESTIONS LEGITIMACY OF BIRTH CERTIFICATE
http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/rick-perrys-birther-parade/2011/10/24/gIQAyFRNDM_story.html

I'm sure we've all heard this by now, but I don't see this in this thread and I found it to be sad and hilarious.

 

[SentinelMind]

Methinks you overthought that. He's smoking because they think the image looks cool. Colbert had a great segment tonight making fun of it. "Smoking is cool! Just ask John Wayne, Humphrey Bogart and the Marlboro Man," as he showed their tombstones.

The commercial I thought was hilarious because it tried to use smoking as a way to win votes and then had that ridiculous "I am America!" song with the ultra-slow Cain smile. I felt like I was watching a fake political ad that Andy Samberg might dream up.

All this discussion of the ad gives Cain more airtime, you're helping create his online viral campaign. The ad has a slight silly tongue-in-cheek vibe, but I agree with Venom's analysis on purpose of ad to humanize Cain's supporters. Regular, middle American working class Republicans who are finally getting excited about a Presidential candidate. I think the smoking in the ad is less about showing the supporter as "cool" and more about showing him as "defiant" and "real". I'm not a smoker, but I have lots of coworkers who smoke and I can understand the alienation some of them feel for their choice to engage in act that symbolizes stress relief. The ad is trying to connect with the "worker on the grind." The Cain smile at the end is definitely conveying message "let's show respect...but look I can have fun with this campaign, too". I think its a good move...a pretty cheap ad thrown together that is causing a sensation.

And that "I am America" song is actually pretty catchy in my honest opinion.

 

[obin_gam]

All this discussion of the ad gives Cain more airtime, you're helping create his online viral campaign. The ad has a slight silly tongue-in-cheek vibe, but I agree with Venom's analysis on purpose of ad to humanize Cain's supporters. Regular, middle American working class Republicans who are finally getting excited about a Presidential candidate. I think the smoking in the ad is less about showing the supporter as "cool" and more about showing him as "defiant" and "real". I'm not a smoker, but I have lots of coworkers who smoke and I can understand the alienation some of them feel for their choice to engage in act that symbolizes stress relief. The ad is trying to connect with the "worker on the grind." The Cain smile at the end is definitely conveying message "let's show respect...but look I can have fun with this campaign, too". I think its a good move...a pretty cheap ad thrown together that is causing a sensation.

And that "I am America" song is actually pretty catchy in my honest opinion.

What? Where? Imo the ad takes and thinks of itself as 100% serious. I really doubt Cain has this kind of self-perspective to get his peons to make a "sarcastic" ad. His quotes in debates I think prooves this quite well.

 

[Lighthouse]

TELEVANGELIST PAT ROBERTSON: GOP PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATES NEED TO "LAY OFF" EXTREMIST RHETORIC
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/10/25/pat-robertson-comments-gop_n_1030534.html

When you've gotten to the point that PAT ROBERTSON is telling you that you're getting too conservative, you've got problems.

Robertson's criticism is a strategic one, not a ideological one. I'm pretty sure he agrees with every extreme conservative idea, but in terms of winning an election, the Republicans scare away all the centrists to Obama.

 

[DACrowe]

All this discussion of the ad gives Cain more airtime, you're helping create his online viral campaign. The ad has a slight silly tongue-in-cheek vibe, but I agree with Venom's analysis on purpose of ad to humanize Cain's supporters. Regular, middle American working class Republicans who are finally getting excited about a Presidential candidate. I think the smoking in the ad is less about showing the supporter as "cool" and more about showing him as "defiant" and "real". I'm not a smoker, but I have lots of coworkers who smoke and I can understand the alienation some of them feel for their choice to engage in act that symbolizes stress relief. The ad is trying to connect with the "worker on the grind." The Cain smile at the end is definitely conveying message "let's show respect...but look I can have fun with this campaign, too". I think its a good move...a pretty cheap ad thrown together that is causing a sensation.

And that "I am America" song is actually pretty catchy in my honest opinion.

Well considering that title came from Stephen Colbert's book....

We're talking about it because it was funny. It's going to go down as one of the all-time bizarre, so-bad-it's-good political ads long after Cain has left the campaign trail for the Fox News TV studio he'll be working at.

Just saying.

 

[Marx]

Anyway....

RICK PERRY REVEALS HIMSELF TO BE A BIRTHER AND QUESTIONS LEGITIMACY OF BIRTH CERTIFICATE
http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/rick-perrys-birther-parade/2011/10/24/gIQAyFRNDM_story.html

I'm sure we've all heard this by now, but I don't see this in this thread and I found it to be sad and hilarious.

Desperate people say desperate things. (Although the CBS Evening News reported last night that 25 percent of Republican voters still DO NOT believe that Obama was born in this country.)

All this discussion of the ad gives Cain more airtime, you're helping create his online viral campaign. The ad has a slight silly tongue-in-cheek vibe, but I agree with Venom's analysis on purpose of ad to humanize Cain's supporters. Regular, middle American working class Republicans who are finally getting excited about a Presidential candidate. I think the smoking in the ad is less about showing the supporter as "cool" and more about showing him as "defiant" and "real". I'm not a smoker, but I have lots of coworkers who smoke and I can understand the alienation some of them feel for their choice to engage in act that symbolizes stress relief. The ad is trying to connect with the "worker on the grind." The Cain smile at the end is definitely conveying message "let's show respect...but look I can have fun with this campaign, too". I think its a good move...a pretty cheap ad thrown together that is causing a sensation.

And that "I am America" song is actually pretty catchy in my honest opinion.

Cain's ad is going viral and getting attention for all the wrong reasons Sent. The larger majority of people aren't saying "wow, that ad really makes me want to vote for him". People are laughing at him because it's so ridiculous. It's almost to an "I'm not a witch" level of ridiculousness.

 

[dnno1]

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