Dark Phoenix I'm guessig FOX didn't bother to hire a real director for this movie cause they knew

[The Guard]

Given what Waititi followed up, or how Matt Reeves boarded The Batman after BvS and the impending JL wreck, or James Wan for that matter who stuck around after BvS, I think that is a bit silly to say.

Taika made the third film in a franchise, following a fresh, if disappointing film, but Thor 2 was hardly a major financial disappointment or critically lambasted. If you look at Marvel, most of those films have been very well received, so if you consider it as part of that franchise, it's a no brainer.

Reeves is the only example I can think of, and that's only if you count the entire DCEU as one franchise, which I don't think we should.

Wan is making the first Aquaman movie ever. There's no "first X-Men movie ever" happening here.

DARK PHOENIX would have been at least the seventh film in a franchise, depending on how you look at it.

Now I don't think they'd get an auteur at this point. But there are plenty of competent directors who want a quick ticket to blockbuster money and opportunities. It isn't exactly like the Russo Brothers, most famous for Community episodes and You, Me, and Dupree, or Tim Miller were big "gets" when they were signed. I am sure they could have found someone way better than Kinberg, but here we are.

Hence my use of quotations and the statement "real director".

I didn't say it would be impossible, and I know there are actual directors out there who probably would have done it, but it would certainly be less likely that they would get a "name" or anyone with real clout or even considerable experience.

 

[random_havoc]

Fravreau, Whedon and Russo are among the most useless and flattest directors of the last 10 years in great budget movie.

I don't call it a great track record.

If you mean 'money' then the Twilight Saga make the same money with less budget.

Wow. Considering that the majority of those movies from those directors for marvel didn't just make immense money but also were highly rated by both critics and viewers, perhaps either it's your taste that's the problem, or superhero movies aren't the right genre for you

 

[Frankeh]

Wow. Considering that the majority of those movies from those directors for marvel didn't just make immense money but also were highly rated by both critics and viewers, perhaps either it's your taste that's the problem, or superhero movies aren't the right genre for you

Preach. Comparing Marvel movies to Twilight movies... LOL.

 

[psylockolussus]

Apocalypse is the third best cbm villain of all time!

How many "real directors" want to come into what is arguably the 10th X-Men film or so?

Especially after a poorly received prior film.

I don't think Fox even bothered to look for a "real director" for Dark Phoenix. That just shows that this franchise needs a creative change and a change of studio.

 

[Ordet]

Wow. Considering that the majority of those movies from those directors for marvel didn't just make immense money but also were highly rated by both critics and viewers, perhaps either it's your taste that's the problem, or superhero movies aren't the right genre for you

I never read about these director were highly rated by critics.
Indeed there was never a real positive focus about direction in their reviews.

I remember you the usa critics works in a sectorial way. They vote cinecomics as your teachers voted your homeworks: if you get the max, that isn't meaning you are Shakespeare, but your rate is compared to your school level.
And they like MCU 'cause Feige don't aim to reach Shakespeare's level but he want stay at school level. 'Cause, for critics, superhero must stay there.

Said that, you look at their filmography outside MCU and you get the point.

Imho the only real directors work in cinecomics are (in not a particulary order): Donner, Burton, Raimi, Singer, Mangold, Branagh, Snyder (and also fallimentary like Schumacher, who made one of the worst movie)

I put Joel Schumacher for a reason. That's not a primary matter of quality ('cause quality is a mix of various thing) but medium's language.

 

[psylockolussus]

Eh.

 

[Phoenix Egg]

I'm guessing anyone who has anything to do with X-Men movies not by Disney eat babies!

[/hyperbolic meme follower]

 

[psyonic]

Apocalypse is the third best cbm villain of all time!


I don't think Fox even bothered to look for a "real director" for Dark Phoenix. That just shows that this franchise needs a creative change and a change of studio.

I'm not a Kinberg fan but every director got their start somewhere right? Just unfortunate it's X-Men DP

 

[psylockolussus]

Yes. Out of all the films that Fox is making, it had to be the X-Men!

 

[EnDz0n3]

I'm not a Kinberg fan but every director got their start somewhere right? Just unfortunate it's X-Men DP

Most first-time directors don't have the ego to start with a big budget movie as their directorial debut and they also don't call themselves the Grandfather of the X-men movies, much to the chagrin of everyone around him.

Like you said it's unfortunate he had to make his debut with the X-men. I'm jealous of all these other franchises getting all these far more talented filmmakers as their director and we're stuck with this guy.

 

[psylockolussus]

The X-Men aren't Star Wars to Fox. I think this is the one franchise from Fox that they were able to release ten films without a full reboot, so its bothering to me when they made the ultimate sin to hire Kinberg as director of Dp.

 

[Ordet]

Yes. Out of all the films that Fox is making, it had to be the X-Men!

About that, i agree with you.

I hope for great like Villeneuve (or my dream: Refn).
And i get the poor Kinberg.

 

[psylockolussus]

Well, I am optimistic that Marvel Studios would find a better person to direct a X-Men film in the not so distant future.

 

[marvelrobbins]

i see mcu fanatics are keeping it classy not.

it will be funny when they discover simon kinberg after sale continues to work at lucasfilm and disney films and tv.heck he ould even endup directing a star wars film.

 

[InfraggbleKrunk]

i see mcu fanatics are keeping it classy not.

it will be funny when they discover simon kinberg after sale continues to work at lucasfilm and disney films and tv.heck he ould even endup directing a star wars film.

Bahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!

 

[EnDz0n3]

Can you imagine the amount of hate mail Disney would get for that?!

 

[Phoenix Egg]

i see mcu fanatics are keeping it classy not.

it will be funny when they discover simon kinberg after sale continues to work at lucasfilm and disney films and tv.heck he ould even endup directing a star wars film.

I was under the impression he's already involved with them.

I think it's inevitable.

 

[X-Maniac]

I was under the impression he's already involved with them.

I think it's inevitable.

As long as we get new blood on the X-Men, there will be parties in the streets...

 

[psylockolussus]

Simon Kinberg has been attached to Star Wars since Star Wars Rebels.... But its been years since then. No way he would a direct a Star Wars film especially after Dark Phoenix comes out next year.

 

[Link]

...Unless of course Dark Phoenix is a huge hit. If it's a success he'll get Star Wars, no doubt about it.

Well, I am optimistic that Marvel Studios would find a better person to direct a X-Men film in the not so distant future.

I don't know about that. They hire cheap and manageable.

 

[EnDz0n3]

...Unless of course Dark Phoenix is a huge hit. If it's a success he'll get Star Wars, no doubt about it.

Huge hit and good movie are entirely different things. Go ask the Transformers franchise.

Kennedy and Marshall are notoriously picky about who they hire to helm their films. I doubt they would get Kinberg to direct if DP isn't a "good movie."

 

[psylockolussus]

...Unless of course Dark Phoenix is a huge hit. If it's a success he'll get Star Wars, no doubt about it.



I don't know about that. They hire cheap and manageable.

Cheap and manageable and still gets a fresh Rt rating? Sure. And you can't wait for Dark Phoenix directed by Kinberg.

 

[Ordet]

Cheap and manageable and still gets a fresh Rt rating? Sure. And you can't wait for Dark Phoenix directed by Kinberg.

I start to thinking that many of you don't know how RT works.

The Fresh % doen't mean how good is a movie.

 

[SumT]

only Fox fanatics know how good are the movies, and depending on the studio, of course.

 

[Flint Marko]

I don't know about that. They hire cheap and manageable.

They've never hired a first-time director, so....