Black Widow News and Speculation Thread

Marketing and press tour for this is gonna be a doozy.

"Remember that character that died two years ago and is basically confirmed to never show up again? Uh, yeah - go see this movie."

No doubt Disney marketing and the Marvel brand will carry it through, but it'll feel more like coasting than actual excitement.
 
Disappointed with the news (for the whole slate, of course), but once again, I can't say I'm all that surprised. With the news that Mulan didn't meet expectations, going to D+ was obviously not an option. Theaters will have to hold on for Black Widow's release, but the question is, can they? And if they can't, what will the movie landscape even look like?
 
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I must be misunderstanding something. Since Black Widow doesn't affect the timeline, why push the rest? I'm guessing... maybe because they don't want the movies competing with each other?

I took it to mean the release schedule? None of the 2022 films were affected by the latest reshuffle.
 
Was there any doubt of that?

Well when I suggested a while back that Black Widow would have made more sense as a Phase 3 film, a lot of people got on my case by saying it would probably tie into Phase 4 somehow. So I guess they can suck it, now.
 
Even if it ties into Phase 4, the movie is 95% about a Phase 3 character that's long dead.

If there was ever an MCU movie to "write off" to VOD and then re-release in theatres (AKA merely make a *smaller* profit), this was the one.
 
Charge $50 to rent this thing for 24 hours and call it a day. Movie theaters and crowds are not coming back for at least another year, especially in the major markets.
 
Charge $50 to rent this thing for 24 hours and call it a day. Movie theaters and crowds are not coming back for at least another year, especially in the major markets.
Disney is NEVER going to do that after the Mulan fiasco.
 
Yeah, no. Even the veneer of the MCU label isn't going to cut through a home release like that, especially if the general public is as unenthusiastic about it as some folks on this thread seem to be.
 
If Soul ends up adding a ton of D+ subscribers, I think Black Widow has a shot of winding up on D+ if COVID is still a mess by March with no vaccine. I wouldn’t expect any updates until January.

Unless Shang-Chi has a ton of issues in post-production, I doubt they’ll push Black Widow back again. If things are still bad by May 2021 I can’t see how Disney just sits on three completed MCU films indefinitely. Doctor Strange 2 could also be deep in post-production by then.
 
I've heard completely different things about Mulan, including that it was an unprecedented success in the United States, financially-speaking.
You heard wrong. Yahoo originally reported that because they misinterpreted the numbers from an analytics firm, and the analytics firm then clarified that their report suggested the movie likely made less than 1/3 of what Yahoo suggested, and that Hamilton performed 4x better in terms of subscription surges. Another firm reported that it only generated 1/10 of the sign-up demand of Hamilton. Those reports, coupled with Disney's "no comment" stance on the situation indicates that, yeah, it failed.

Ultimately, Tenet's probably in better financial shape, as it still has a second wind on streaming/VOD to look forward to.
 
John Campea said on his show today that he's gotten word from at least two sources that at the Disney investor's meeting on December 10th, they will announce Black Widow going to Disney+.

That would be massive if true. Could have huge implications not only for other MCU films, but also for many other high-profile movies that got delayed by Covid.
 

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