Superhero Cinematic Civil War - Part 57

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"Olympic fire is blown off, and the leaning tower of Pisa is leaning no more. Tar caused this."

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“Superman just caused a massive oil spill that is killing wildlife in the ocean, and he just trashed your favorite bar. Also your clothes and hair stink like hell. Stop smoking today.”
 
The only black lead Superhero movie I expect to make as much impact as Black Panther did is a Storm movie. A storm movie that is as good as black panther with perfect casting would be huge.

You know we will show the hell out for a Storm movie. Disney better play all their cards right about Storm and her casting and her storyline.
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Ororo and the culture deserves it.
 
Yea Nakia, Shuri, and Okaye were all strong characters who had parts in the action and weren’t just love interests or damsels in distress. Actually sometimes the supporting cast overshadowed T’Challa a bit, IMO.
I'd even argue that the supporting cast overshadowed T'Challa for the entire movie save for a few moments (when he confronts Zuri about Killmonger, when he confronts his father and ancestors in the ancestral plane, "I never yielded!", and the U.N. scene at the end). He's also absent from the movie for a whole 15 minutes between the time Killmonger throws him over the waterfall and his body is found with the Jobari tribe by Nakia and his family. I'd have a much bigger issue with it if A.) he hadn't been a prominent character in Civil War prior to this and B.) if the supporting characters weren't as interesting as T'Challa.
 
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“Superman just caused a massive oil spill that is killing wildlife in the ocean, and he just trashed your favorite bar. Also your clothes and hair stink like hell. Stop smoking today.”
"He followed this by destroying machinery in the junkyard. Stop smoking and you will turn your lungs from coal to diamond."


You know we will show the hell out for a Storm movie. Disney better play all their cards right about Storm and her casting and her storyline.
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Ororo and the culture deserves it.
Did this show tackle her claustrophobia? I remember X-Men Evolution doing so but not this one.
 
I was gonna say Storm movie? Then again who would have thought a Guardians, Ant-Man, Black Widow movie was going to be made. Personally, I think I'd be more into a Cyclops movie, Jean and his family.
 
"He followed this by destroying machinery in the junkyard. Stop smoking and you will turn your lungs from coal to diamond."



Did this show tackle her claustrophobia? I remember X-Men Evolution doing so but not this one.

They did. The Season 1 Deadly Reunions (I think the 4th episode) had a scene where Magneto blasted her into a wall or something and she got covered by bricks and freaked out.

They explored it a couple times.
 
I was gonna say Storm movie? Then again who would have thought a Guardians, Ant-Man, Black Widow movie was going to be made. Personally, I think I'd be more into a Cyclops movie, Jean and his family.

A lot you could do with a Storm movie. Explore her backstory as a pickpocket in Egypt, her witchcraft roots with her family, her rivalry with the Shadow King, there's a lot there.

Won't be able to see her and T'Challa though. That one hurts.
 
I know there's stuff they can do with Storm. Storm has never been one of my favorite X-Men.
 
They did. The Season 1 Deadly Reunions (I think the 4th episode) had a scene where Magneto blasted her into a wall or something and she got covered by bricks and freaked out.

They explored it a couple times.
Thanks. I'll have to watch this show again, but the voice acting is kinda unpleasant for me to bingewatch the thing.
 
Thanks. I'll have to watch this show again, but the voice acting is kinda unpleasant for me to bingewatch the thing.

I feel you, that's how I am now watching Evolution on D+.

Everyone is all whiny and teenagery. Good action scenes though.
 
Also, Clark and Lois are pretty dumb to think that the kids aren’t displaying any powers when Jock Superboy threw a football so powerful it cut down a tire swing like it’s nothing.
I think Clark says the test at the fortress said it was unlikely and the jock is suggested to not have powers in the Pilot.
Lana has a D-bag husband instead of a D-bag boyfriend. Clark is struggling to tell his kids about his powers instead of his friends. Hormonal teenagers are competing for the same girl.
I think Lana's husband is spoken of as being a depressed fire fighter whose seen terrible things and is miserable about his life in the Pilot. Clark's kids find out by the end of the episode. Whose competing for the same girl?
I’ve seen CW Smallville before and honestly this just feels like more of the same to me.
I think there's a difference in color palette, tone, design and structure. Smallville didn't have Jonathan Kent fighting supervillains and working to prevent nuclear power plant destructions.
I even remembered that her actress is Ma Kent from Smallville, making both her Superman related career choices sour points.
Sour points?
 
I feel you, that's how I am now watching Evolution on D+.

Everyone is all whiny and teenagery. Good action scenes though.

One thing I really liked about that show was progression, it starts with a lot of high school stuff and pretty low stakes and then the characters start to grow up and things get more serious as it goes along.

It also has some of my favorite interpretations of certain characters. Apocalypse, for example, is just a total unstoppable force of nature in this show. That's the way he should have been in the Fox film.
 
One thing I really liked about that show was progression, it starts with a lot of high school stuff and pretty low stakes and then the characters start to grow up and things get more serious as it goes along.

It also has some of my favorite interpretations of certain characters. Apocalypse, for example, is just a total unstoppable force of nature in this show. That's the way he should have been in the Fox film.

Yeah they did a good job with Apocalypse on this show. No comment about that travesty of a movie.

Some of the interpretations I can get with, others I wish they did something different. I love Scott's role and watching him and Jean and how they progress as the foundation of the team, but then I just wasn't totally sold on what they did with Rogue. Personality wise, I wasn't feeling the goth, always sullen thing, but I do enjoy how they utilized her and her powers and the psychological drama with that. They nailed that beautifully. Also a plus was her family drama with Mystique and Destiny.
 
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Unrelated, but hot take alert: I don't think WandaVision is very good.
I finally caught up over the weekend... and it's not very good! The actors are great, it navigates the various tones of the sitcoms cannily, but why? I don't see the point. So much of this show is running in place, I'm just sitting through the sitcom pantomimes waiting for when things get weird for 30 seconds at the end (and it doesn't help that I have no affection for the sitcom affectations anyway). Obviously something is going on behind the scenes, but it's like if THE TRUMAN SHOW or CABIN IN THE WOODS waited to cut to the control room until the third act. It mistakes hiding the very premise of the show for being the same thing as presenting a mystery.

And then when it finally starts starts to "reveal" things its not so much a reveal as just a confirmation of what had to have been going on. And more than one scene in the last episode should've been right up front in the first episode. Saving those moments maybe makes those scenes land harder when they finally come, but I'd argue they'd have made all the other scenes in the first several episodes land harder. It would've placed them in a solid emotional context. Instead they opted for mystery box bull****.

And some of the reveals just muddy things. Episode 7 ends with "it was ______ all along!" but then episode 8 is like "yeah but not really. Just kinda?" There'd better be some form of reckoning in the last episode too because where this show has positioned all the pieces and reveals so far has left one of the main characters in a really dark ugly place that I'm not even sure the show is acknowledging.
 


Did anyone here think Lex Luthor was black in Superman: TAS?

I could never decide when I was younger. Sometimes I actually believed he was black, but then I knew Clancy Brown was white and the character sometimes just looked tan like Superman:

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So I was torn, lol.
 
I finally caught up over the weekend... and it's not very good! The actors are great, it navigates the various tones of the sitcoms cannily, but why? I don't see the point. So much of this show is running in place, I'm just sitting through the sitcom pantomimes waiting for when things get weird for 30 seconds at the end (and it doesn't help that I have no affection for the sitcom affectations anyway). Obviously something is going on behind the scenes, but it's like if THE TRUMAN SHOW or CABIN IN THE WOODS waited to cut to the control room until the third act. It mistakes hiding the very premise of the show for being the same thing as presenting a mystery.

And then when it finally starts starts to "reveal" things its not so much a reveal as just a confirmation of what had to have been going on. And more than one scene in the last episode should've been right up front in the first episode. Saving those moments maybe makes those scenes land harder when they finally come, but I'd argue they'd have made all the other scenes in the first several episodes land harder. It would've placed them in a solid emotional context. Instead they opted for mystery box bull****.

And some of the reveals just muddy things. Episode 7 ends with "it was ______ all along!" but then episode 8 is like "yeah but not really. Just kinda?" There'd better be some form of reckoning in the last episode too because where this show has positioned all the pieces and reveals so far has left one of the main characters in a really dark ugly place that I'm not even sure the show is acknowledging.

I enjoy watching WandaVision...but I can't really say it's a particularly great show. I feel like I enjoy it because I know enough about the characters involved and have a certain amount of investment as a result.
 
WandaVision was the Disney Plus show I was probably least looking forward to, but I've enjoyed more episodes then I haven't and I really do enjoy it overall. I can see why some wouldn't be so keen on it though. Only episodes I wasn't crazy about were the "Brady Bunch" episode, parts of episode 6, the Halloween episode and I didn't love the last episode like most people seemed to.

I have a feeling a lot of people are setting themselves up for disappointment with the finale.
 
I haven't liked the show since episode 3 outside of bits and pieces. The show has its moments, but I think outside of the sitcom aspects, everything else has been extremely weak and bad.
 
I could never decide when I was younger. Sometimes I actually believed he was black, but then I knew Clancy Brown was white and the character sometimes just looked tan like Superman:

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So I was torn, lol.
Timm says he was based on Telly Savalas’ Blofeld and I honestly can’t unsee that now.

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Timm says he was based on Telly Savalas’ Blofeld and I honestly can’t unsee that now.

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When I showed my brother OMHSS for the first time, we couldn't figure out who Savalas looked like. He looked so familiar. When we finally realized, it blew our minds. :funny:
 
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