No Way Home The Big Elephant In The Room: Previous Spider-Men Returning?

[Arachnerd]

This has been a long point of contention since last year, and it still hangs in the air. What are your guys' thoughts on the potential return of Tobey Maguire and Andrew Garfield's Spider-Men?

 

[Toomes' Phone]

This has been a long point of contention since last year, and it still hangs in the air. What are your guys' thoughts on the potential return of Tobey Maguire and Andrew Garfield's Spider-Men?

Since there isn't a "possibly" option in the poll, that'll be my write-in vote. I still think it's 50/50, maybe leaning a bit towards "yes", but there's no guarantee. Honestly Alfred Molina returning alone is enough to get my butt in a seat (or my couch, depending on where the pandemic is by then).

 

[KRYPTON INC.]

I think it will be an element...

I wish I could guarantee everyone it was a meaty element but I have doubts.

 

[GwensNeckBrace]

I'm more inclined to believe they're in it than not. I don't see why that DoorDash driver would lie about delivering to Andrew in Atlanta.

 

[Mike Murdock]

I'm inclined to believe they're in the movie in some form even if it's just a portal showing stock footage from a previous movie. I have no idea if both of them have a meaningful role. If I had to guess, Andrew Garfield will have a substantive role in the second half, but who knows about anything else.

 

[ragingdemon155]

I’m one of the few apparently that has grown tired of the MCU Spider-Man and desperately miss Tobey/Andrews versions. Love Tom but have so many issues with how the MCU has portrayed Spider-Man.

So for me, I’m still
Holding out hope that they will definitely be in it. If not, it would be such a massive disappointment to me.

 

[Arachnerd]

I still think it's 50/50, maybe leaning a bit towards "yes", but there's no guarantee. Honestly Alfred Molina returning alone is enough to get my butt in a seat (or my couch, depending on where the pandemic is by then).

Pretty much my thoughts right here.

 

[venom892]

I think it's more likely than not. This is Sony. They saw the critical success of ITSV and how well the MCU is doing. They always want the biggest possible movie, what better way to that than to combine basically every previous movie with the MCU. Foxx and Molina's involvement basically already gave it away and the way Wandavision is going provides further evidence. There is no reason to overthink it too much, it's happening.

 

[Arachnerd]

@Toomes' Phone Added that option to the poll btw. Thanks for the reminder.

 

[Chris B]

I think they'll both appear but I'm not expecting huge roles from either. Something where they appear in the 3rd act and feature in the climax.

 

[Arachnerd]

After Tom Holland's recent interview regarding No Way Home... I'm starting to believe it's less "there's a 50/50 chance" and more that they're not in the movie whatsoever. He's really coming across as subtly telling fans not to get their hopes up if reading between the lines instead of keeping mum, so that's exactly what I'm going to do.

At least until something comes along to tell me otherwise.

 

[antsman41]

I’m looking at it 3 ways, all definitely;

1- Tobey (Aunt May dead/MJ is alive) and Andrew (Aunt May alive) are both in it a bit...

2- Tobey (Aunt May is dead/MJ is alive) is in it briefly, he sacrifices himself for some reason... Andrew is in it, with Tom carry the rest of the film.

3- Tobey (Aunt May is alive/MJ died) is in most of it, but Andrew sacrificed himself early (...he’s been burdened since Gwen died).

I feel like those are the three strongest different scenarios, if they’re all “in it” at some capacity.

 

[antsman41]

As I’ve stated before... I feel like Tobey will be bringing in a seasoned, but knowledgeable type Peter Parker. Have some hope, but will have some loss ala May (use Tomei to pull at heart strings), or if it’s MJ instead who’s passed, just use it to have him teach Tom to be strong.

While... Andrew on the other hand will be even made jaded and be a bit more reckless with the duty as Spider-Man, post Gwen’s death. Maybe coming too closely from crossing the edge. And, this crossover will either end in sacrifice or he’ll be a better man from it. Learning from Tobey and maybe from Tom.

I strongly feel that both Spider-Men will come
in with some additional loss (if in fact their character doesn’t die in this film) after their film canon. It’ll be no different that what we’ve seen -“already using a Peter who lost an MJ/Gwen/May in the Ultimate Comics or Spider-Verse to bring in some emotion to the crazy sci-fi scenario.

 

[Gothamsknight]

I think with Maguire, Aunt May will have passed and MJ will still be alive, and either married, or things didn't work out between them. I do think the film will answer at least one of those.

 

[venom892]

Tobey and MJ being separated with aunt may being dead veers way too close to Peter B. Parker's arc in Into The Spiderverse. I rather Tobey being a version of the Peter Parker in the Spider-Girl comics. Mostly retired. I'm completely onboard with Andrew's Spider-Man being jaded. In fact it be cool if he had the symboite at this point. But that might be asking too much.

 

[Arachnerd]

So, I've been wondering on whether to post this or not, but I figured it wouldn't hurt. The same scooper on the MCU Spoiler sub-reddit (SookieIsMine84) who has mostly been accurate about what's been unfolding in Wandavision has also posted some comments regarding No Way Home. I won't post the link to that thread since it's coupled with more potential MCU information courtesy of another user on there, but I will include the NHW mentions here.

Word of warning, potential spoilers ahead, though it's nothing that hasn't been theorized before:

Spoiler

Spider-Man 3:

• Spider-Man 3 is a Spider-Verse movie because of the events of WandaVision. Tobey Maguire and Andrew Garfield will appear. Tom Holland is lying about them not appearing. (Much of this has been backed up by multiple reliable scoopers like Charles Murphy, but I will not add it to the "proven true" section until further notice.)
  
  
• Jamie Foxx as Electro is a different and fresh take on the character in the MCU timeline. This applies to many other characters as well. It is explained with the multiverse. The villains are also redesigned.

We'll have a concrete answer next week with WV's finale to check if Sookie is a 100% reliable person to trust.

 

[The Infernal]

I think they would have firmly quashed rumours of a live-action Spider-verse by now and with evidence like Foxx admitting he's playing Electro I think it adds up to Holland throwing us off the scent.

 

[Arachnerd]

Ehhh, we'll see. It could still theoretically be live-action Spider-Verse and just having those two cameo, and even then it would probably be quick. The multiverse aspect would most likely come from the villains which Tom Holland's Spidey would have to face on his own and that's it.

 

[GuestStar2004]

I think its worth watching expectations when it comes to story arc baggage with Toby and Andrew.

 

[Arachnerd]

If they're in this, it's probably for about a minute at most and that's it. Not even taking into account a potential post-credits scene.

They will have no story, just be used for nostalgia props and nothing more.

 

[Nardz937]

I don't think just having a minute of screentime and nothing really to do would be appealing to Tobey & Andrew for them to come back for. Considering how sour Garfield openly was on how TASM went and how expensive Tobey likely is, I tend to believe they're going to have something substantial to do if they're back.

 

[Arachnerd]

We'll see, I'm just not hopeful at the moment.

Wandavision is ending this week, so that should explain where things are headed (or not headed).

 

[Venom 1988]

I'm still in the 50/50 camp to be honest. Like yea there's a lot to suggest that one if not both of them are in it. Between all the scoops, leaks and this question coming up constantly in interviews, this seems to be a no brainer. But I dunno, there's just this nagging feeling in the back of my head that make me think we all have this wrong. Like this movie is going to go down way differently that a lot of us may be thinking. Regardless, we'll find out soon enough.

 

[Arachnerd]

But I dunno, there's just this nagging feeling in the back of my head that make me think we all have this wrong. Like this movie is going to go down way differently that a lot of us may be thinking.

My thoughts exactly. Live-action Spider-Verse movie with Tobey Maguire and Andrew Garfield sounds way too good to be true, so I'm currently not expecting it to happen here nor for NWH to have any multiverse element whatsoever.

I think a lot of people are setting themselves up for disappointment once the movie's plot and first trailer are revealed to just be Peter on the run with maybe the formation of an MCU-centric Sinister Six.

 

[kguillou]

I believe that if this whole Tobey/ Andrew thing was baloney then it would have been firmly refuted by Sony long ago when they first started popping up. Instead we've gotten half denials and from them and the cast. I think what happened is that they originally did not plan to announce any of this until the trailer hit but word leaked out and theyre on damage control and holding off as long as possible.

Plus, guys, Alfred Molina and Jamie Foxx. I think that right there solidifies that they are at least appearing in it. They are in this. i think the only question is how big a role. I think we all WANT a full on three-way team up movie with these three where we see them banter, bond and fight alongside each other the whole movie but this may in fact be just a third act "surprise" cameo pop up. Which would be a tremendous mistake IMO.