No Way Home No Way Home Rumors, Leaks And Speculation Thread (Potential Spoilers Ahead)

[Arachnerd]

Also I don't think we need to use the spoiler tags in this thread lol

 

[CadeSkywalker28]

It would be horrible.

Spoiler

One of the things I love about comics is that the characters have secret identities. It's so cool, and now the last character who still had a secret identity will lose it and it will be a Spider-Man, a character whose whole story is based on having a secret identity.

 

[Airnick]

I've told you this on PMs, Airnick, but the MCU Spider-Man is just a very different interpretation to the point where I've come to accept most of the differences for that potential aspect to bother me.

What I'm more focused on is how Tobey Maguire and Andrew Garfield's Spider-Men are handled characterization and screentime wise.

Agreed, in all honesty Andrew and Tobey are really the selling point of the movie for me. So how they’re handled is what really matters to me.

Doesn't the world already know

I think in this case it would be him coming clean and actually unmasking himself to the public.

 

[Chip Chipperson]

Spoiler

If it’s true that Peter does reveal himself at the end of the movie, how would you guys feel about that?

 

[Spidey_62]

I didn't like when it happened in the comics and I don't anticipate I'll like it if that happens here too then. I was fine with the reveal in FFH cause someone else leaked it to the world and not Peter himself, that still gives things an out where he can deny it. I like the Spectacular Spider-Man episode where his id gets revealed but in the end it sorta fizzles out cause nobody could really buy Peter being Spidey.

Bottom line I don't like the idea of Peter doing it at the end of this movie cuz then his metamorphosis into Tony Stark Jr is complete.

 

[Pablo Parker]

The thing is... it kind of makes sense for the character as is presented in the movies. I don´t really know if this Peter needs to keep his identity a secret. Most of his friends know about it. Aunt May knows about it and is cool with it. Nick Fury, Happy, pretty much all the other people he met in Infinity War and Endgame... Does it really matter any more?
On the other hand, the secret identity is an important part of Peter Parker, that gives weight to his altruism. He does good things and nobody thanks him for it. People doesn´t know that Peter is Spider-man, so he never gets a "thank you" for all the sacrifices he makes. And that makes him a pretty cool character.
So... Would I like it? I don´t know! We´ll see!
Well, actually... it´s a Spider-man movie. I´m a sucker for this things. So I´m gonna like it anyway...

 

[Doctor Jones]

With this movie, I think there's an opportunity to really redeem Garfield's Spider-Man. This could be the Garfield Spider-Man at his best and may pleasantly surprise people.

I'm thinking when he's found here he'll be strung out after Gwen's death and really at an all time low. I think you need to differentiate these guys instead of making them all the same, otherwise, they kind of cancel each other out. Plus, it would just be more fun to watch. Maguire's Peter will be happy, married to MJ, Garfield's will be alone and depressed without Gwen and Holland's is at the crossroads.

 

[Frodo]

I didn't like when it happened in the comics and I don't anticipate I'll like it if that happens here too then. I was fine with the reveal in FFH cause someone else leaked it to the world and not Peter himself, that still gives things an out where he can deny it. I like the Spectacular Spider-Man episode where his id gets revealed but in the end it sorta fizzles out cause nobody could really buy Peter being Spidey.

Bottom line I don't like the idea of Peter doing it at the end of this movie cuz then his metamorphosis into Tony Stark Jr is complete.

I pretty much agree. I view Spiderman like Superman and Batman, in the sense that they're dual identity is a great source of their personal drama. The whole world knowing who they are, permanently, ends alot of the mystique and drama to their characters with regards to the worlds they inhabit.

I think with characters like Iron Man, and maybe even Wonder Woman, it's a bit different . I guess it depends on one's perspective.

I actually like the idea of Peter having someone outside of MJ to confide in , so I don't mind Ned knowing.

But the whole world knowing as the permanent status quo is problematic imo, and it basically ends alot of the drama IMO, if it remains that way going forward.

Now if this new trilogy is like TDK trilogy, and it ends with Peter giving up the mantle, then the idea of everyone knowing I could go with ,since it marks the end of his days as Spiderman.

But that's not the direction Feige and co are going.

 

[CadeSkywalker28]

If that happens, it will only be a final nail in Iron Boy's coffin.

 

[Gothamsknight]

With this movie, I think there's an opportunity to really redeem Garfield's Spider-Man. This could be the Garfield Spider-Man at his best and may pleasantly surprise people.

I'm thinking when he's found here he'll be strung out after Gwen's death and really at an all time low. I think you need to differentiate these guys instead of making them all the same, otherwise, they kind of cancel each other out. Plus, it would just be more fun to watch. Maguire's Peter will be happy, married to MJ, Garfield's will be alone and depressed without Gwen and Holland's is at the crossroads.

I actually would like this.

 

[GuestStar2004]

Well at the end of TASM2 i think its meant to show a more hopeful moving forward. i don't think him being depressed would be part of that hopeful direction. but then that only really works if you don't take into consideration the time jump of years we haven't seen them. perhaps they will de-age Toby and Andrew so they don't have the time jump. who knows.

Im also someone who thinks we don't need to see all of these peter parkers depressed in order for them to develop. sure in the comics he goes through some things. but Spider-man isn't batman. it shouldn't be about finding a reason to mope.

 

[Arachnerd]

I will say that there need to still be distinctions between them though. Like, Tobey Maguire's Spider-Man could be the wise and responsible one, while Garfield's in contrast is a bit more of a sarcastic wisecracker.

 

[SM71]

I will say that there need to still be distinctions between them though. Like, Tobey Maguire's Spider-Man could be the wise and responsible one, while Garfield's in contrast is a bit more of a sarcastic wisecracker.

I like this.

I think if you make: Toby the 'Dad' or adult Spider-man, Andrew the 'Teenager' or young adult Spider-man, and Tom the 'Adolescent' or (for lack of a better word) child Spider-man -- that would definitely work and be a cool dynamic

 

[kguillou]

I love that. Andrew and Holland could have a older/younger brother dynamic while Tobey’s the dad who keeps them both focused and in check.

 

[CadeSkywalker28]

I hope they don't follow the old, broken master trope, pretending it's something fresh and new.

Tobey should be the guy who achieved everything in life. He have to be the most experienced, the fastest and the strongest Spider-Man. Garfield and Holland must immediately recognize him as a leader and respect him.

 

[ernesth100]

I hope they don't follow the old, broken master trope, pretending it's something fresh and new.

Tobey should be the guy who achieved everything in life. He have to be the most experienced, the fastest and the strongest Spider-Man. Garfield and Holland must immediately recognize him as a leader and respect him.

This is what I want.

I'm assuming Andrew will be the broken trope and considering(let's be honest) he's the best actor of the three. It fits his character to be the one that's not so sure about his role as Spidey anymore.

As for Tom himself amongst the three. I'm assuming he'll be his usual "woah, holy **** that's awesome dude!" self. Nerding out over the other Spider peeps. And considering he's arguably the smartest, he'll likely be the thinker of the group.

Tobey I'm assuming will be very realized and fit and complete as Spider-Man. He deserves respect for launching the character into superstardom. Def the powerhouse, when Tom and Andrew run out of webs. Tobey will show them who's the real Spider-Man.

If any argument comes I'm assuming it'll be from Andrew's Spidey. He's easily the snarkiest and most sarcastic and post Gwen death that may translate to straight up narcissistic depression.

If I may imagine he's the Spidey that's willing to kill now. While the others attempt to bring him back to the light.

 

[Arachnerd]

Mhm, lord knows I wouldn't want Tobey's Spidey of all people getting the Luke Skywalker treatment.

 

[GuestStar2004]

I think people here are probably overthinking their roles. when Marvel/Sony probably won't think this hard about it.

 

[Arachnerd]

Or maybe they are. They're just assumptions at this point. One is not more likely than the other with how little we currently know.

 

[kguillou]

I hope they don't follow the old, broken master trope, pretending it's something fresh and new.

Tobey should be the guy who achieved everything in life. He have to be the most experienced, the fastest and the strongest Spider-Man. Garfield and Holland must immediately recognize him as a leader and respect him.

Bro you f***ing nailed it. Tobey should not be like the one in Into the Spider Verse. He shouldnt be broken and jaded. He should be older, mature, wiser but still the kind, dorky baby faced Peter we once knew just you know, older and wiser and the one Andrew and Tom look to.

Andrew should be the cockier one. The one who jokes more and a little more hardheaded.

 

[GuestStar2004]

My belief is that the dynamic between the Spider-men will be very light. infact I'm not even convinced the 3 spider-men will get much time together to interact as a group. if they do it the way movies usually like to do it, then the only time they will be together as a group will be in the climax. making the climax extra exciting seeing all 3 actually together. the other part of the film will be Holland interacting maybe 1 to 1 with them.

Think of Civil War. think of Justice League where super-man appears at the end to join the battle but you don't really get to see how a social interaction between him and everyone would be like. its all about what would enhance the climax. the build up.

 

[Arachnerd]

Again, I point you to my previous post. We're all just making assumptions that may or may not be true once the film comes out, we can't treat it as factual.

 

[kguillou]

Look, heres the truth: there isnt a doubt in my mind that we’re all thinking about this more than they have. Tobey and Andrew’s screentime with Holland is very very likely not going to be the amount we hoped for and all of the cool scenes of dialogue and character interactions and banter we have built up in our heads....is likely not going to happen.

But f*** it man, its hard not to get excited and dream up the potential even if that potential isn’t reached. This is, at the end of the day, not “Into the Spider-verse The Movie,” its Tom Holland’s third solo film with some surprise guest stars. He will be the brunt of the focus and character arcs will focus on him and his supporting cast. So yeah; very likely the other two Spider-men will wont have a significant amount of screen time.

But its fun to imagine the possibilities.

 

[Frodo]

We'll have to wait and see in terms of the specific amount of screen time they all have together turns out to be.

At this point, I'm beginning to wonder if Tobey and Andrew will also be " de-aged", like Molina.
In other words, will Tobey's Spiderman be from circa 2004-2005 while Garfield's Peter is from 2014?

If so, I would suspect it wouldn't be as drastic with Andrew ,since his last film , presumably took place in 2013 or 2014.

Still weird to think ASM 2 was just seven years ago.

 

[Dr. Evil]

I tend to believe the Tobey and Andrew rumors moreso than the Matt Murdock rumors regarding this movie.