LOKI General Discussion Thread

Lets not...

Seriously... Lets ****ing not Marvel.

Can we stop putting effort into cutsy bull**** and focus on the story and characters we are all ostensibly"tuning in" to see?
 
Lets not...

Seriously... Lets ****ing not Marvel.

Can we stop putting effort into cutsy bull**** and focus on the story and characters we are all ostensibly"tuning in" to see?
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Miss Minutes was not pleased with the abuse she took.

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Perhaps Loki's actions drive her to supervillainy.
 
I don't know about that explanation because
Mobius was showing Loki what happens to him in the future. That means they're still in 2012. It's not like it already happened. We, the audience, know it happened, but that's because we've seen how things play out all the way to Endgame.

Time doesn't matter in the TVA.
 
Fortunately, due to COVID, a lot of the shooting for MoM was pushed which gave them more time, probably, to make tweaks to the script. Waldron already confirmed that being the writer of both Loki and MoM means he’s responsible for following up on some of the plot lines he’s developed versus letting another writing come in to “clean up the mess”. I interpreted this as things done in Loki will have an impact on MoM, not the other way around which was likely the original plan.
That is good, I trust that they will straighten it out and have it all make sense.
 
Just occurred to me...


Loki calls what he does magic as do the others in the show.

Which is interesting given the science v. magic debate in universe as well as among the genre fan set.
 
Time doesn't matter in the TVA.
Right, but this show technically did not begin in the TVA. In the context of the MCU timeline, time exists so if you're picking a spot for this show on that timeline, I guess I would say right after THE AVENGERS in 2012.

But yes, I suppose it's irrelevant given that the rest of the show takes place somewhere where time itself is irrelevant.
 
I don't know about that explanation because
Mobius was showing Loki what happens to him in the future. That means they're still in 2012. It's not like it already happened. We, the audience, know it happened, but that's because we've seen how things play out all the way to Endgame.
They're not "still in 2012". They're outside of time. Time is relative. What Mobius showed is what could have been Loki's future, but it's not Mobius' future. It is "like it already happened" if you look at it from Mobius' perspective. For him that's not "the future" but just "events that exist somewhere on a timeline".

Right, but this show technically did not begin in the TVA. In the context of the MCU timeline, time exists so if you're picking a spot for this show on that timeline, I guess I would say right after THE AVENGERS in 2012.
I don't see why you would want to "pick a spot on the timeline" when the show is specifically about going to many different spots on that timeline as well as a place outside of it. This show takes place in
79 AD and 1549 and 1858 and 1985 and 2012 and 2050 and outside of time and probably a bunch of other periods
 
It does seem time passes in the TVA, but where the events in the show exist in relation to the current MCU timeline post Endgame is definitely murky.
 
It happened after End Game due to episode one in which

scenes of original Loki in The Dark World, Ragnarok and the death in Infinity War were shown

I mean, its a time travel show, it takes place wherever and whenever it wants. ;)
 
Just occurred to me...


Loki calls what he does magic as do the others in the show.

Which is interesting given the science v. magic debate in universe as well as among the genre fan set.

Its mostly just making neon sign explicit what should have been obvious from the getgo. Some people just really obsess on the idea that magic *must* be incomprehensible to science in order to be magic. Which is, to note, absolute nonsense.
 
A nice detail I noticed on the science and magic being the same in Asgard is when Loki was getting the tour of the TVA. He saw the big sprawling city, built by technology, and said something along the lines of "I thought you said you didn't use magic in the TVA."

It was a neat little connection point to show that Loki doesn't always know the difference between the two.

I think he knows the semantic difference -- why he specifically says he uses magic -- but the practical applications of magic and technology in Asgard are entirely interchangeable. They're means to an end.
 
pitty this soundtrack never will get nominated for an Academy Award. Never heared something more epic in a TV series
 
We've come a long way from the grounded reality of Iron Man. Now it's a parallel agency that works outside of time and monitors the Sacred Timeline for the Time Keepers and can travel to any place in any time period!
I love the idea and the concept behind the TVA but I think even for the MCU this whole thing is a little too-out-there for me. I wonder if any of this will retroactively stain previous stuff in the movies.
 
They're not "still in 2012". They're outside of time. Time is relative. What Mobius showed is what could have been Loki's future, but it's not Mobius' future. It is "like it already happened" if you look at it from Mobius' perspective. For him that's not "the future" but just "events that exist somewhere on a timeline".


I don't see why you would want to "pick a spot on the timeline" when the show is specifically about going to many different spots on that timeline as well as a place outside of it. This show takes place in
79 AD and 1549 and 1858 and 1985 and 2012 and 2050 and outside of time and probably a bunch of other periods
Because that's how I interpreted the person's question.
 
We've come a long way from the grounded reality of Iron Man. Now it's a parallel agency that works outside of time and monitors the Sacred Timeline for the Time Keepers and can travel to any place in any time period!
I love the idea and the concept behind the TVA but I think even for the MCU this whole thing is a little too-out-there for me. I wonder if any of this will retroactively stain previous stuff in the movies.
If you had told me we would eventually see Spider-Man holding the Infinity Gauntlet and being pulled by Mjolnir and then saved by Valkyrie riding a Pegasus, I would have laughed in your face.
 

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