Discussion: The REPUBLICAN Party - - - - - Part 20

Jesus christ, Gaetz tried to pimp his 19 year old future sister in law to a 40 year old man. And he has his fiance believing all his ****.
 
Remember when everyone said that Trump would never win? Remember when they said he would "mellow out" once he was inaugurated? Remember how they said he would fade away when he lost?

The trend was always clear - Trump was simply the right personality at the right time to embody what had already been happening to the GOP since the 80's. Like everything he's ever done, Trump just slapped his name on something that already existed. The GOP is unflinchingly The Party of Trumpism now, DeSantis, Gaetz, Greene, Tuberville, Hawley: They're the future. People like Vance know this, which is why they're going all in at the Golden Cheeto Alter.

The rest of the country (specifically Centrists) HAVE to wake up and get with the program. Heads are in the sand, conducting business as usual as if everything is back to normal. But it isn't. It's only getting worse. And if we don't take radical action in the next year, it may be too late to turn away from the brink.
 
Remember when everyone said that Trump would never win? Remember when they said he would "mellow out" once he was inaugurated? Remember how they said he would fade away when he lost?

The trend was always clear - Trump was simply the right personality at the right time to embody what had already been happening to the GOP since the 80's. Like everything he's ever done, Trump just slapped his name on something that already existed. The GOP is unflinchingly The Party of Trumpism now, DeSantis, Gaetz, Greene, Tuberville, Hawley: They're the future. People like Vance know this, which is why they're going all in at the Golden Cheeto Alter.

The rest of the country (specifically Centrists) HAVE to wake up and get with the program. Heads are in the sand, conducting business as usual as if everything is back to normal. But it isn't. It's only getting worse. And if we don't take radical action in the next year, it may be too late to turn away from the brink.
Correction. Since the 1960s
 
Correction. Since the 1960s
I always forget that Goldwater's run predated the Moral Majority by so much. I feel like the change really became irrevocable by the time that Falwell and co. took power over the party in the 80's, but yeah, the roots definitely stretch back to the McCarthy era.
 
‘Mediaite - 'EXCUSE ME!' Jamie Raskin Confronts GOP Rep. Andrew Clyde for Comparing Rioters to Tourists in Fiery 10-Minute Clash

During a House Rules Committee meeting on Tuesday night, Congressman Jamie Raskin (D- MD) directly confronted Congressman Andrew Clyde (R- GA) on his comments about January 6th after testimony from four Capitol Police officers.

Clyde rather infamously said in May that if you looked at footage from January 6 without knowing what it was, “you would actually think it was a normal tourist visit.”

The fiery 10-minute back-and-forth kicked off with Raskin asking Clyde if he watched the testimony from those Capitol Police officers on the harrowing events of January 6th.

Clyde objected and said, “Let’s stick to the amendment.”

Raskin kept pressing him on whether he watched the testimony.

Clyde said, “It’s absolutely irrelevant to this amendment right here.”

“He refuses to say whether or not he heard the Capitol officers who risked their lives and have experienced traumatic medical injuries,” Raskin said. “That’s his prerogative.”

He went on to bring up how the “tourist” comparison was flat-out rejected by one of those officers.

“Do you stand by your statement that they were tourists?” Raskin asked.

“Quote my exact statement, not your interpretation of my statement,” Clyde said.

Raskin read Clyde’s comment: “Watching the TV footage of those who entered the Capitol and walked through Statuary Hall showed people in an orderly fashion staying between the stanchions and ropes, taking videos and pictures. You know, if you didn’t know the TV footage was a video from January the 6th, you would actually think it was a normal tourist visit.”

“Those are your words,” Raskin said.

“And I stand by that exact statement as I said it,” Clyde responded.

Raskin again brought up the officers who “battl[ed] that medieval mob” and if he really thinks they were fighting tourists.

“That statement did not say that those people were tourists,” Clyde responded.

“I have read your statement once,” Raskin said as they went back and forth. “Lots of people online believed your statement that it was a normal tourist visit.”
 
I always forget that Goldwater's run predated the Moral Majority by so much. I feel like the change really became irrevocable by the time that Falwell and co. took power over the party in the 80's, but yeah, the roots definitely stretch back to the McCarthy era.

Goldwater would be horrified by what's going on right now, but Nixon??? Not so much. IIRC, Barry's grandson was gay and Goldwater's stance on banning and chasing down gays in the military was basically "the people who think this is a good idea are a bunch of GD idiots". While Goldwater and I are ideologically on opposite ends of the economic policy spectrum, his stance on civil liberties, at least in this case, was decades ahead of more "liberal" democrats.

EDIT: and by "decades", I mean a half of a century.
 
Even Goldwater was later complaining about the party when the snake handlers were finding more favor than prior.

Barry Goldwater in 1994 as quoted by John Dean said:
Mark my word, if and when these preachers get control of the [Republican] party, and they're sure trying to do so, it's going to be a terrible damn problem. Frankly, these people frighten me. Politics and governing demand compromise. But these Christians believe they are acting in the name of God, so they can't and won't compromise. I know, I've tried to deal with them.
Barry Goldwater in 1981 said:
The religious factions that are growing throughout our land are NOT using their religious clout with WISDOM. I'm frankly sick and tired of the political preachers across this country telling me as a citizen that if I want to be a moral person, I must believe in 'A,' 'B,' 'C,' and 'D.' Just who do they think they are?... I will fight them every step of the way if they try to dictate their moral convictions to all Americans in the name of "conservatism."
GOLDWATER VOWS TO FIGHT TACTICS OF 'NEW RIGHT' (Published 1981)
Gay rights aside, Goldwater is doing lots more to drive would-be disciples nuts. In 1992 he backed a Democrat for Congress over a Christian conservative Republican (his candidate, Karan English, won), and has been applying the full force of his cantankerous personality to frequent denunciations of the religious right and occasional defenses of Bill Clinton – calling a press conference recently to urge Republican critics of Whitewater to "get off his back and let him be president."

https://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/daily/may98/goldwater072894.htm

The wife of President Clinton (Hillary) was his supporter back in the '60s.
 
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Goldwater would be horrified by what's going on right now, but Nixon??? Not so much. IIRC, Barry's grandson was gay and Goldwater's stance on banning and chasing down gays in the military was basically "the people who think this is a good idea are a bunch of GD idiots". While Goldwater and I are ideologically on opposite ends of the economic policy spectrum, his stance on civil liberties, at least in this case, was decades ahead of more "liberal" democrats.

EDIT: and by "decades", I mean a half of a century.
Yeah, I was referencing Goldwater's famous quote about Falwell and co. taking over the GOP. His loss is frequently treated as the last stand of traditional conservatism before it was overtaken by the evangelical loons.
 
Yeah, I was referencing Goldwater's famous quote about Falwell and co. taking over the GOP. His loss is frequently treated as the last stand of traditional conservatism before it was overtaken by the evangelical loons.

I've said several times that today's "conservatives" aren't. I couldn't be described as conservative by any stretch of the imagination, but would much rather deal with them than these religious bigots.
 






I’m not even watching the Olympics - the games should’ve been postponed again - but the Rs just root for America to fail - especially the female and non-white America.


 
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Associated Press - Ravages of COVID surge evident inside Missouri hospital

Daryl Barker was passionately against a COVID-19 vaccination, and so were his relatives. Then 10 of them got sick and Barker, at just 31, ended up in a Missouri intensive care unit fighting for his life.
“I was strongly against getting the vaccine,” Barker said through labored breathing. “Just because we’re a strong conservative family.”

In the U.S., many people who identify as politically and socially conservative have been more reluctant to be vaccinated — so much so that in Missouri, faith leaders have joined the effort to encourage shots. Meanwhile, the summer outbreak is so alarming that Democratic-led St. Louis city and county and Kansas City have reinstated mask mandates.

 
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If this were a real police state, Turd Greene would have already been locked up in a prison, kept completely off the books.

But nope, she is still free to fire off incendiary comments and continue mucking America up with her lies.
 
Knocking on someone's door to ask them something is not a crime. What is a crime is shooting them for merely doing so.
 

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