The Matrix Resurrections

[GothamCity]

This could be the suprise of the year.

 

[henzINNIT]

The Burly Brawl is still a crazy ambitious sequence. That CG has aaaaged so badly though. It was conceived during that saturation period when digital effects could do everything, but before film-makers realised that it probably shouldn't. Looking at it today, I wish the Wachowski's filmed Keanu for every shot possible and only used digital doubles for the Smiths. It would hold up much better that way. As it is, the sequence gets less and less exciting as it progresses, as the great choreography and stunt work gradually decreases and the effects kick in.

The "maybe this isn't the story we think it is" feels to me like the plot isn't about Neo, but Trinity. Which I look forward to seeing how it plays out, as I feel it is going to get weird.

My first impressions of this had me thinking Trinity may have been a pretty small part. I'll be delighted to be wrong on this.

 

[Da-Scribe]

I remember watching The Burly Brawl at 13 and feeling so hyped. And as it went on and on and on, as it got more and more animated, that spark just started to go out.

It's one of the earliest moments I can point to where I started to develop my own tastes in terms of film. One of the first times I wasn't immediately enamored with everything I was watching on screen.

 

[henzINNIT]

I remember watching The Burly Brawl at 13 and feeling so hyped. And as it went on and on and on, as it got more and more animated, that spark just started to go out.

It's one of the earliest moments I can point to where I started to develop my own tastes in terms of film. One of the first times I wasn't immediately enamored with everything I was watching on screen.

I get that completely. It triggered similar things in me. The first fan edit I ever did was Reloaded.

 

[DarkKnight88]

I remember watching The Burly Brawl at 13 and feeling so hyped. And as it went on and on and on, as it got more and more animated, that spark just started to go out.

And the added sound effect just to kill it further lol

 

[Drizzle]

Yeah, the Burly Brawl really aged poorly. A lot of it didn't look great even back then but the advent of Blu-rays and seeing it in HD since then didn't do it any favors. Luckily, the Neo vs. Smith fight in Revolutions was a big improvement, not just for looking better but also for this:

 

[Karelia]

Yeah, the Burly Brawl really aged poorly. A lot of it didn't look great even back then but the advent of Blu-rays and seeing it in HD since then didn't do it any favors. Luckily, the Neo vs. Smith fight in Revolutions was a big improvement, not just for looking better but also for this:

Yeah one of my favorites from all the Matrix soundtracks. I'm a sucker for those "Duel of the Fates" epics like that.

 

[Filmfan93]

Our local cinema chain (UK) just posted on FB that they "can't confirm" when tickets will go on sale for this - when other major chains in the UK have already started putting theirs on sale.

This definitely has to do with NWH's release on the 15th and logistics for arranging their screens. Spider-Man has taken all major screens everywhere, including the w/c 20th of December. I feel Spidey will really hurt the BO potential for this.

 

[Luigi]

Yeah, the Burly Brawl really aged poorly. A lot of it didn't look great even back then but the advent of Blu-rays and seeing it in HD since then didn't do it any favors. Luckily, the Neo vs. Smith fight in Revolutions was a big improvement, not just for looking better but also for this:

Man, this gave me chills when I saw it on the big screen for the first time.

 

[Iceman]

Our local cinema chain (UK) just posted on FB that they "can't confirm" when tickets will go on sale for this - when other major chains in the UK have already started putting theirs on sale.

This definitely has to do with NWH's release on the 15th and logistics for arranging their screens. Spider-Man has taken all major screens everywhere, including the w/c 20th of December. I feel Spidey will really hurt the BO potential for this.

They wait all this time to make another Matrix film and then they dump it in the mix with a heavy hitter and release it on streaming too.

 

[Iceman]

The Burly Brawl is still a crazy ambitious sequence. That CG has aaaaged so badly though. It was conceived during that saturation period when digital effects could do everything, but before film-makers realised that it probably shouldn't. Looking at it today, I wish the Wachowski's filmed Keanu for every shot possible and only used digital doubles for the Smiths. It would hold up much better that way. As it is, the sequence gets less and less exciting as it progresses, as the great choreography and stunt work gradually decreases and the effects kick in.



My first impressions of this had me thinking Trinity may have been a pretty small part. I'll be delighted to be wrong on this.

I still like the scene but it looked like the effects hadn’t caught up with what they were trying to do back then (unlike most of the other action scenes in Reloaded).

 

[Gothamsknight]

They wait all this time to make another Matrix film and then they dump it in the mix with a heavy hitter and release it on streaming too.

The more I think about it, the more it's making me sad

 

[kguillou]

For a long time burly brawl was like my favorite movie action scene of all time. At the time is was so mind blowing. I remember the crowd I watched it with was so viscerally into it that every one applauded the moment the fight ended. Im general, Reloaded is one of my favorite theatrical experiences, that was one of the first times i watched a movie with a crowd that was so engaged with what was happening on screen.

 

[Marvolo]

I need that orchestral arrangement of Wake Up.

 

[TheWiseGuy487]

I need that orchestral arrangement of Wake Up.

 

[TheVileOne]

Burly Brawl didn't work for me because like a bunch of Smiths show up, Neo freaks out and flies away.

I thought Neo could literally rewrite the Matrix code and even break it.

The end of the first movie made it seem like Neo basically had God Mode access to the Matrix or whatever and was far more powerful than he turned out to be.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

The Burly Brawl is still a crazy ambitious sequence. That CG has aaaaged so badly though. It was conceived during that saturation period when digital effects could do everything, but before film-makers realised that it probably shouldn't. Looking at it today, I wish the Wachowski's filmed Keanu for every shot possible and only used digital doubles for the Smiths. It would hold up much better that way. As it is, the sequence gets less and less exciting as it progresses, as the great choreography and stunt work gradually decreases and the effects kick in.



My first impressions of this had me thinking Trinity may have been a pretty small part. I'll be delighted to be wrong on this.

Yeah, the CGI has aged terribly, but the moments when it's just Keanu, are magical. Probably my favorite hand to hand fight in cinema.

Burly Brawl didn't work for me because like a bunch of Smiths show up, Neo freaks out and flies away.

I thought Neo could literally rewrite the Matrix code and even break it.

The end of the first movie made it seem like Neo basically had God Mode access to the Matrix or whatever and was far more powerful than he turned out to be.

That's not how the Brawl plays out.

The Smiths show up, and he isn't surprised. He's expecting him. They then try to assimilate him, which catches him off guard. He resists and starts kicking their butts, but the problem is Smith spreads like a virus, and thus begins to overwhelm him.

The thing about Smith, is he's learned from Neo. He's learned that you can "break" the Matrix. Both characters aren't playing by the rules.

 

[elgaz]

I thought Neo could literally rewrite the Matrix code and even break it.

The end of the first movie made it seem like Neo basically had God Mode access to the Matrix or whatever and was far more powerful than he turned out to be.

Personally I don't think Neo's powers were downplayed in the sequels. We saw him do some amazing things.

But as we know from Reloaded onwards, Smith was also able to rewrite Matrix code. He was assimilating not just the normal inhabitants of the Matrix, but also agents - and even the Oracle. By the end he had all of Neo's powers of superstrength, flight, etc - and maybe even more with whatever he gleamed from the Oracle. Even the machines couldn't control him, which is why they needed Neo in the end.

Smith was always the Yin to Neo's Yang; his dark mirror side. Neo actually did pretty well to fight off multiple Smiths before he was overwhelmed.

 

[GothamCity]

Does somebody know where the package file is with the audio files from the score?

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

Personally I don't think Smith was ever meant to make it beyond the first movie. I think when Neo destroys him at the end that was meant to be it for the character.

But Weaving was so good and everyone loved him in the role so they put him in the sequels. However I think part of the problem with the sequels was how much important they gave Smith.

My only worry for the new movie is their reasoning for him coming back as the machines wouldn't have been able to beat him without Neo.

 

[DyeLorean]

Yeah, the Brawl hasn't aged well but the highway sequence and the fight on the stairs have. The score works so well, I have rewatched sequences from Reloaded many many times.

 

[Gothamsknight]

There was press screenings last night. Any idea on when we'll hear first reactions?

 

[DarkKnight88]

Personally I don't think Smith was ever meant to make it beyond the first movie. I think when Neo destroys him at the end that was meant to be it for the character.

But Weaving was so good and everyone loved him in the role so they put him in the sequels. However I think part of the problem with the sequels was how much important they gave Smith.

My only worry for the new movie is their reasoning for him coming back as the machines wouldn't have been able to beat him without Neo.

I honestly don’t think they had much of an idea what the sequels would be at all while doing the first film. I think the huge success of the first film surprised everyone and the studio wanted a trilogy, so they obliged. I remember reading an article while the sequels were in pre-production, that they were terrified about the reaction after seeing what happened with Star Wars Episode I and the pressure of fan expectations.

 

[Gothamsknight]

Some new footage in here!

See 'The Matrix Resurrections' cast reflect on Trinity and Neo's 'beautiful love story'

 

[Hunter Rider]