Superhero Cinematic Civil War - Part 58

[Lily Adler]

Guess WB went with a variation of option 1

So they will still release the film... Okay gals and goobs boycott it is.

 

[DlAMONDZ]

Guess WB went with a variation of option 1

I'm sure this "apology" is genuine and not entirely the work of WBD's PR department

 

[DarthSkywalker]

So they will still release the film... Okay gals and goobs boycott it is.

There is a long road ahead.

 

[flickchick85]

Guess WB went with a variation of option 1

There's doing the least, and then there's whatever this is.

 

[chamber-music]

CW making shows aimed at Generation X is going to be interesting.

The Walker Texas Ranger reboot and Superman & Lois are likely safe. All American is also probably safe because fifty somethings are into football/901210 style drama.

That Gotham Knights show looks dead.

 

[Boy Scout]

Guess WB went with a variation of option 1

I truly hope Miller gets help. Their* victims, too.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

I truly hope Miller gets help. Their victims, too.

They couldn't even admit what they did. Didn't even apologize to their victims. Once they do that, I'll buy the "help" narrative.

Also please remember, They/Them.

 

[Boy Scout]

They couldn't even admit what they did. Didn't even apologize to their victims. Once they do that, I'll buy the "help" narrative.

Also please remember, They/Them.

I don’t necessarily care how strong or deep Miller’s apology is as long as they’re actually and actively seeking help.

Thank you for the correction! I’ll edit my post. Yikes, that’s what I get for posting at 3AM.

 

[MarvelFan]

Yay or nay on him being MCU Xavier? Sounds like he has the right idea on how to play him to me.

Completely agree.
I always like him. It will be fresh to see him play a good character once in a while.

Even KD agrees

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Completely agree.
I always like him. It will be fresh to see him play a good character once in a while.

Even KD agrees

KD makes such bad decisions these days, it actually makes me question that perfect casting.

 

[titansupes]

Just re The Rock's lack of a decent filmography considering his star status, I watched an interview from Jumanji 2 the other day where he, Hart, Black and Gillan were asked to name their favourite films of their co-stars... oh my god I've never seen anything so awkward. And it went for so long. They barely remembered anything the other people were in and then pulled things like "...Ride Along. One of the comedy classics that'll stand the test of time."

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Just re The Rock's lack of a decent filmography considering his star status, I watched an interview from Jumanji 2 the other day where he, Hart, Black and Gillan were asked to name their favourite films of their co-stars... oh my god I've never seen anything so awkward. And it went for so long. They barely remembered anything the other people were in and then pulled things like "...Ride Along. One of the comedy classics that'll stand the test of time."

Jack Black has School of Rock. That's where it ends.

 

[titansupes]

Jack Black has School of Rock. That's where it ends.

I expected someone to play that card at least, but instead it was... "Man, Goosebumps. Incredible movie. Loved it."

 

[Filmfreak]

There was nothing grounded about the guy who wears a bulletproof suit and uses his barehands, when if he just walked around with a gun, he'd have a far higher win percentage. He was on a show with a blind lawyer with superpowers, who hung out with a super strong woman, a bulletproof man, a woman who was resurrected, and man with a glowing fist.

I think there should be a distinction between what is a realistic concept and what is a realistic depiction of any given concept. Game of Thrones was a show that had dragons, magic and undead armies, but it was still presented in a grounded way. There was absolutely nothing realistic in what was shown but it was realistic in the way that was shown. Meaning that while it was a universe full of fantastical elements, the characters and situations felt real. Similarly there are shows that deal with very realistic themes that are still be shown in a ridiculous or over the top way.

Daredevil was like the former. Hawkeye embraced the silliness of the superhero concept and kept a lighthearted and cheesy tone. Which is perfectly fine. The problem was that it took a character that was presented in a for more serious way and incorporated him in something completely different where he didn't actually fit. I get why some people like Kingpin there, but I don't get how they can't understand why some others don't.

 

[FunkMiller]

Guess WB went with a variation of option 1

Pathetic. This person should not be continually propped up like this. What about the victims? All those people who don't get the kind of attention and leeway this reprehensible moron does, because they're not rich, part of a movie franchise, and famous.

And even then, there’s a distinct difference between the way Miller is being handled to other celebrities who have found themselves in (much milder) hot water, that I find deeply hypocritical.

 

[Boy Scout]

Pathetic. This person should not be continually propped up like this. What about the victims? All those people who don't get the kind of attention and leeway this reprehensible moron does, because they're not rich, part of a movie franchise, and famous.

The victims aren’t famous and probably don’t want details of their personal* recoveries and traumas blasted all over the internet. Miller doesn’t have that luxury. Until we get more information, I think it’s reasonable to assume that they (or their families) want to keep some details private.

And even then, there’s a distinct difference between the way Miller is being handled to other celebrities who have found themselves in (much milder) hot water, that I find deeply hypocritical.

What do you mean? I haven’t seen a single person - here or otherwise - defend him. If anything, Miller’s being treated worse than others. (And I’m not saying they shouldn’t be.)

 

[Batgirl0202]

Miller's career is over no matter what happens.

If WBD is forced to shelve Flash indefinitely, Miller will be remembered in Hollywood as box office poison whose behavior ended up costing a studio hundreds of millions of dollars. It's not like they're an A-List superstar - what other studio would realistically hire them after all this? Well maybe Sony...

And even if Flash is released and becomes a huge global hit, Miller's legal and civil issues will be so extensive that they wouldn't be available for any potential sequel within any reasonable timeframe anyway. WBD will have no choice but to recast if they want a viable franchise.

So long...

 

[BoredGuy]

Jack Black has School of Rock. That's where it ends.

Tropic Thunder is the correct answer

I expected someone to play that card at least, but instead it was... "Man, Goosebumps. Incredible movie. Loved it."

Hey, I honestly didn't hate Goosebumps, was a surprisingly fun little kids spooky movie

Just re The Rock's lack of a decent filmography considering his star status, I watched an interview from Jumanji 2 the other day where he, Hart, Black and Gillan were asked to name their favourite films of their co-stars... oh my god I've never seen anything so awkward. And it went for so long. They barely remembered anything the other people were in and then pulled things like "...Ride Along. One of the comedy classics that'll stand the test of time."

Lol, I'da been like "The First Jumanji!"

 

[FunkMiller]

What do you mean? I haven’t seen a single person - here or otherwise - defend him. If anything, Miller’s being treated worse than others. (And I’m not saying they shouldn’t be.)

I mean the movie companies and media. I think most people out in the public have Miller pegged pretty accurately.

 

[Ninjablade]

Y'all better not be disparaging the Kung Fu Panda movies

Honestly, of the four, he's probably got the best filmography. Nacho Libre and King Kong are pretty legit films

 

[Deck Rickard]

I have to admit, I’ve never seen the appeal of Jack Black. I actually do like him in the Jumanji movies but everything else? Bleh. I think I’ve never been able to see him as anything other than the D-bag from that sexist cesspool of a movie, Shallow Hal.

 

[Iceman]

Completely agree.
I always like him. It will be fresh to see him play a good character once in a while.

Even KD agrees

Haha, that's cool that he's a fan. Feels like there's a fair chance of this happening now.

 

[BoredGuy]

I have to admit, I’ve never seen the appeal of Jack Black. I actually do like him in the Jumanji movies but everything else? Bleh. I think I’ve never been able to see him as anything other than the D-bag from that sexist cesspool of a movie, Shallow Hal.

Well nobody looked good on that one in retrospect, I can't blame him anymore than the other hundreds of people who worked on it... different times
And he's f***in Tenacious D, gotta respect

 

[Deck Rickard]

Well nobody looked good on the one in retrospect, I can't blame him anymore than the other hundreds of people who worked on it
And he's f***in Tenacious D, gotta respect

Sure, everyone in that movie looked bad but (for me at least) Gwyneth Paltrow and Jason Alexander had been in some stuff I enjoyed. So, while I wouldn’t give them a pass for it, at least I don’t look at it as a pivotal moment in their careers. But that movie was the movie that made Jack Black a star. Ugh.

As for Tenacious D… they’re okay, but not really my thing.

 

[Iceman]

Miller's career is over no matter what happens.

If WBD is forced to shelve Flash indefinitely, Miller will be remembered in Hollywood as box office poison whose behavior ended up costing a studio hundreds of millions of dollars. It's not like they're an A-List superstar - what other studio would realistically hire them after all this? Well maybe Sony...

And even if Flash is released and becomes a huge global hit, Miller's legal and civil issues will be so extensive that they wouldn't be available for any potential sequel within any reasonable timeframe anyway. WBD will have no choice but to recast if they want a viable franchise.

So long...

There's not all that many A-list actors/top movie stars who would put a film of this budget at risk, and Ezra is not even proven at any level. Barely any positives and an unbelievable amount of risk signing them up to a future project. Got to be one of the worst risk/return tradeoffs around.