Spider-Man The Official "I Loved Raimi's Spider-Man' Thread - Part 1 of 99 Luft - - - - Part 13

Doctor Jones said:
If it would have resulted in another SM3 situation, we'd be better off. But I'll take a flawed SM4 over the Marvel crap of today or any of the past five movies.
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It would've been worth the risk, in my opinion.
 
I'm glad it didn't happen , at least with the script they were going to use.

It's fine to look back now a little more than a decade , a successful Marvel film version, and billions of dollars later, and imagine that a Raimi SM4 at that time would be a good film.

Even Raimi didn't think the story was where it needed to be, which is why he walked.

Sony wanted to move ahead with the script they had ,and Raimi knew it wasn't strong enough.

Coming after the mixed to negative response of SM3 , another weak to negative response of SM4 would have done more harm then good.

We also have to keep in mind, this was the era of Sony and Avi Arad meddling pre the Marvel Sony deal, and I'm skeptical we would have gotten a decent film out of it.

As someone old enough to remember those days, I'm glad Sony wasn't able to do more damage to the Raimi series with a weak 4th film.

Raimi had an iconic trilogy ,and didn't limp along to the end the way alot of other film franchises have .

So , for all the what if questions now, I can't really join in the idea of wishing they had gone through with Spiderman 4 the way Sony wanted to in 2010 and 2011.
 
It's true that Raimi ultimately walked because he feared SM4 was shaping up to be a mess. Makes it easier to make peace with the film being canned. Only a little easier though. I was livid back then, especially when the reboot news dropped at the same time. It didn't need to be a choice between a bad SM4 or nothing, but Sony had to be Sony.
 
Frodo said:
I'm glad it didn't happen , at least with the script they were going to use.

It's fine to look back now a little more than a decade , a successful Marvel film version, and billions of dollars later, and imagine that a Raimi SM4 at that time would be a good film.

Even Raimi didn't think the story was where it needed to be, which is why he walked.

Sony wanted to move ahead with the script they had ,and Raimi knew it wasn't strong enough.

Coming after the mixed to negative response of SM3 , another weak to negative response of SM4 would have done more harm then good.

We also have to keep in mind, this was the era of Sony and Avi Arad meddling pre the Marvel Sony deal, and I'm skeptical we would have gotten a decent film out of it.

As someone old enough to remember those days, I'm glad Sony wasn't able to do more damage to the Raimi series with a weak 4th film.

Raimi had an iconic trilogy ,and didn't limp along to the end the way alot of other film franchises have .

So , for all the what if questions now, I can't really join in the idea of wishing they had gone through with Spiderman 4 the way Sony wanted to in 2010 and 2011.
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I guess it's better to say that we would have wanted a Raimi S-M4 under the right conditions rather than with the way Sony was handling things at the time.
 
I think things were changed so much by then, that a SM1/2 level movie by that point would have been impossible. I don't think there was ever a scenario where Raimi was going to get that kind of control again.
 
Tobey checking Raimi memes, yesssssssss! :funny: :D
 
I'd love to see Tobey, and Kirsten in either a Renew your Vows Spider-Man movie,
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or a Spider-Girl type movie.
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Last week I made a visual retrospective for the hype of Spider-Man 2002. Only two comic book movies in my life have felt like events upon release: Spider-Man 2002 and The Dark Knight. It’s hard to even describe it to someone that wasn’t there, but it just felt like Spider-Man was everywhere around that time. The hype was palpable. I remember it opening on the weekend of May 3 and there just being pandemonium at the theatre. It was one of the first times that I remember seeing long lines for a movie. I’m very happy that I was around to experience it at the time.

 
AntonGobbs89 said:
Last week I made a visual retrospective for the hype of Spider-Man 2002. Only two comic book movies in my life have felt like events upon release: Spider-Man 2002 and The Dark Knight. It’s hard to even describe it to someone that wasn’t there, but it just felt like Spider-Man was everywhere around that time. The hype was palpable. I remember it opening on the weekend of May 3 and there just being pandemonium at the theatre. It was one of the first times that I remember seeing long lines for a movie. I’m very happy that I was around to experience it at the time.

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Great compilation here. Thanks for sharing!
 
AntonGobbs89 said:
Last week I made a visual retrospective for the hype of Spider-Man 2002. Only two comic book movies in my life have felt like events upon release: Spider-Man 2002 and The Dark Knight. It’s hard to even describe it to someone that wasn’t there, but it just felt like Spider-Man was everywhere around that time. The hype was palpable. I remember it opening on the weekend of May 3 and there just being pandemonium at the theatre. It was one of the first times that I remember seeing long lines for a movie. I’m very happy that I was around to experience it at the time.

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Yup, there was nothing like experiencing those 2 movies upon release. I often credit the first Raimi Spider-Man, and Spider-Man 2 being the movies that really made me obsessed with storytelling. I obviously loved movies at a young age before that too, but being 9 years old and seeing this character brought to the screen so perfectly with so much love opened my eyes to what's possible in not just film, but other forms of entertainment and media. Spider-Man 2 somehow managed to top the excellent and iconic first film and at that point I was obsessed. And then, just when I thought the genre had peaked, Nolan comes along and transcends everything, and redefines the genre forever with Batman Begins, and TDK being considered one of the greatest films ever made. Honestly, I consider both TDK and Spider-Man 2 some of the greatest films ever made for me personally.

Nolan and Raimi were the 2 biggest inspirations to me as a teen and I owe so much to those two. I mean, it's no coincidence that TDK and Spider-Man 2 are my most rewatched comic book movies.

I wish November was here so I could meet Sam already. Gonna have him autograph my Spider-Man 2 poster and I'm gonna do a photo op as well.
 
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Gothamsknight said:
Yup, there was nothing like experiencing those 2 movies upon release. I often credit the first Raimi Spider-Man, and Spider-Man 2 being the movies that really made me obsessed with storytelling. I obviously loved movies at a young age before that too, but being 9 years old and seeing this character brought to the screen so perfectly with so much love opened my eyes to what's possible in not just film, but other forms of entertainment and media. Spider-Man 2 somehow managed to top the excellent and iconic first film and at that point I was obsessed. And then, just when I thought the genre had peaked, Nolan comes along and transcends everything, and redefines the genre forever with Batman Begins, and TDK being considered one of the greatest films ever made. Honestly, I consider both TDK and Spider-Man 2 some of the greatest films ever made for me personally.

Nolan and Raimi were the 2 biggest inspirations to me as a teen and I owe so much to those two. I mean, it's no coincidence that TDK and Spider-Man 2 are my most rewatched comic book movies.

I wish November was here so I could meet Sam already. Gonna have him autograph my Spider-Man 2 poster and I'm gonna do a photo op as well.
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What I liked about that decade is that when someone called a film “The Greatest Comic Book Movie Ever Made” you knew it was something special. I remember hearing that about X2, Spider-Man 2, and The Dark Knight which are all excellent films imo.

At the time it was so cool to see a respected critic like Roger Ebert put Spider-Man 2 in his top 10 list, or to hear Richard Roeper say that The Dark Knight “should merit consideration for a best picture nomination”. My hope is that one day all comic book films can operate at the level of those movies. Post Dark Knight there’s only been two films that really lived up to the quality of Spidey 2, and Dark Knight imo.
 
In revisiting the trilogy, this is a product of its time, but I have a much greater appreciation now for all of the Daily Bugle scenes. We get the paper in the Webb films, but I don't recall if we ever saw Peter physically working there. And then it's just a website in the MCU.

In this day and age, having the Bugle still as a newspaper might feel antiquated. I get it. But I feel there's something missing by not having that hustle and bustle feeling of a newsroom where Peter develops his skills. Not to mention you don't get the interactions between Jameson, Robbie, and others. So it's nice to look back at all of those Daily Bugle scenes in the Raimi films because unless the MCU version goes back to being a traditional newspaper, I doubt we get moments like that again. Unless you count the New York Bulletin scenes in the Daredevil series.
 
I much prefer Raimi's loveable-jerk Jameson over the MCU's more straight up unlikeable villain JJ.

Simmons JJ has just sorta been there for me in these MCU outings. Just not as charming or fun when he doesn't have a Bill Nunn, Elizabeth Banks, Ted Raimi or Tobey to play off of.

Needless to say I'm not really a fan of the modernization of Jameson.
 
That was a cool throwback to the Spider-Man 4 fan trailers back in the day. :up:
 
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