NFL Offseason (Free Agency, Draft and Trades)

[Themanofbat]

My God... would I love to see the Niners get Jackson....

 

[Ninjablade]

All the upcoming rule changes for this season, at least as of now. I know they have another meeting in a few weeks so more could come, but I wouldn't be surprised if this is it. Nothing overly major. Shocked they didn't outlaw that goofy sneak by the Eagles.

 

[Ninjablade]

More big news

 

[NewYorkSpider]

While you never know, I think you're probably right. At some point, Jackson is going to drive his trade value down enough that it'll be worth it for someone. The other thing is that if the Ravens franchise him, he's gonna be making a whole, whole lot of $$$ because the position pays so well. I wonder if he pulls a Cousins....that seems like the most likely scenario.

I just heard today that Jackson wants to play for the Patriots. Not sure how accurate that is or if its true. The Patriots are one of the teams that could potential pay Jackson heavily, but Belichick's not the kind of guy that would want to overpay a quarterback and lose heavily on other needs.

Brady took a home town discount for 20 years and it benefited them like crazy. Don't really seem them doing this.

 

[InCali]

I just heard today that Jackson wants to play for the Patriots. Not sure how accurate that is or if its true. The Patriots are one of the teams that could potential pay Jackson heavily, but Belichick's not the kind of guy that would want to overpay a quarterback and lose heavily on other needs.

Brady took a home town discount for 20 years and it benefited them like crazy. Don't really seem them doing this.

Interesting. I don't see Bill and Lamar getting along that well and I sure don't see Jackson signing at a discount. Everyone is all about winning.......until their paycheck comes into play. LOL

 

[sycamore]

cbssports provides a ranking for the top 30 NFL prospects here (overall, not by position):

2023 NFL Draft Prospect - Position Rankings

The two interesting players to me are Will Levis and Bijan Johnson. Levis, because he is overrated but some teams are so desperate for a QB that they are willing to reach for the guy; and Bijan, because I think he is a game changer but there is such a prejudice against picking RBs early that some lucky team will probably snag him in the latter half of the first round.

 

[InCali]

cbssports provides a ranking for the top 30 NFL prospects here (overall, not by position):

2023 NFL Draft Prospect - Position Rankings

The two interesting players to me are Will Levis and Bijan Johnson. Levis, because he is overrated but some teams are so desperate for a QB that they are willing to reach for the guy; and Bijan, because I think he is a game changer but there is such a prejudice against picking RBs early that some lucky team will probably snag him in the latter half of the first round.

Levis "might" be overrated, but consider the team he was playing for as opposed to Young and Stroud. His offensive line was a complete and utter hot mess and he didn't have much in the way of receivers. If you put him on an Alabama or OSU team, who knows how he would have looked?

By the way, I thought Dan Marino was overrated coming out of college so nobody, NOBODY should listen to me. LOL

EDIT: Just to emphasize the above point, I also thought there were a few better wideouts than Larry Fitzgerald in his draft class.

 

[sycamore]

Levis "might" be overrated, but consider the team he was playing for as opposed to Young and Stroud. His offensive line was a complete and utter hot mess and he didn't have much in the way of receivers. If you put him on an Alabama or OSU team, who knows how he would have looked?

By the way, I thought Dan Marino was overrated coming out of college so nobody, NOBODY should listen to me. LOL

EDIT: Just to emphasize the above point, I also thought there were a few better wideouts than Larry Fitzgerald in his draft class.

Isn't it amazing that Marino was drafted #27 by the Dolphins? That boggles the mind. His rookie season he took the Fins to the AFC Championship, a year later to the Super Bowl. All with no running game and no defense.

There were rumors about him and marijuana apparently that killed his stock. Marino was apparently especially angry when Ken O'Brien ("Who's Ken O'Brien?") was drafted ahead of him by the Jets.

On Levis, I've read about him and by all accounts he is first round material, but I'm not sure if he is top #10 material. I wouldn't put him on the same tier as Stroud, Young and even Richardson (who is raw but his upside is sky-high). If he gets drafted in the top 10, I think its a bit of a reach, and whichever teams are drafting beneath him are going to reap the benefits.

 

[InCali]

Isn't it amazing that Marino was drafted #27 by the Dolphins? That boggles the mind. His rookie season he took the Fins to the AFC Championship, a year later to the Super Bowl. All with no running game and no defense.

There were rumors about him and marijuana apparently that killed his stock. Marino was apparently especially angry when Ken O'Brien ("Who's Ken O'Brien?") was drafted ahead of him by the Jets.

On Levis, I've read about him and by all accounts he is first round material, but I'm not sure if he is top #10 material. I wouldn't put him on the same tier as Stroud, Young and even Richardson (who is raw but his upside is sky-high). If he gets drafted in the top 10, I think its a bit of a reach, and whichever teams are drafting beneath him are going to reap the benefits.

Yeah.....Miami scored like fat rats. I wasn't worried about the pot stuff because I was probably whacked at a Grateful Dead concert or hanging at the Keystone for a Jerry Garcia show. I just whiffed.

The main point I was trying to make is that no one looks good if their O line sucks or they don't have someone who can get open. Bama and OSU had riches in both areas. KSU had neither. Bottom line.....we'll see, but don't listen to me.

My biggest concern is what's between his ears. He could have Ryan Leaf written all over him.

 

[Dr. Evil]

TBH, Seattle is one of 3 teams that could draft Anthony Richardson and not be in any rush to start him right away, which would give him proper time to develop. The other two teams that could also do that to Richardson are Minnesota and Detroit. Have him play on certain packages? Sure, but no urgency to start him.

 

[InCali]

TBH, Seattle is one of 3 teams that could draft Anthony Richardson and not be in any rush to start him right away, which would give him proper time to develop. The other two teams that could also do that to Richardson are Minnesota and Detroit. Have him play on certain packages? Sure, but no urgency to start him.

Seattle or Detroit "might" be able to get him, but I would be completely shocked if he fell to Minnesota. I could easily see him gone after (or even before) pick #4.

 

[sycamore]

Seattle or Detroit "might" be able to get him, but I would be completely shocked if he fell to Minnesota. I could easily see him gone after (or even before) pick #4.

I think it would be bad move for Detroit. First of all, they really don't need a starting QB: Goff is competent and he's only 28 years old. Secondly, Richardson isn't a sure thing. Lions would be fools to waste the #6 pick on a potential boom or bust project.

They need to stick with Goff for the moment and upgrade other areas of the team.

 

[InCali]

I think it would be bad move for Detroit. First of all, they really don't need a starting QB: Goff is a competent QB and he's only 28. Secondly, Richardson isn't a sure thing. Lions would be fools to waste the #6 pick on a potential boom or bust project.

They need to stick with Goff for the moment and upgrade other areas of the team.

Yeah. I don't see Seattle or Detroit going QB. I was just responding to the post suggesting he might fit there. In any case, I don't see Carolina, Houston, or Indy going anything BUT QB and think Richardson will be one of those three picks. I also don't see any of them moving down. I "could" see Indy swapping with AZ if anyone starts sniffing around for that 3 pick and there are some teams who might want to get in on the QB action.

 

[NewYorkSpider]

Detriot needs to go defense with both their picks IMO. They were the worst defense in the league. They were giving up almost 400 years per game. Their offense bailed them out most of the year.

If this team can find some key defensive players, I expect them to be one of the top teams in the NFC next year.

 

[Iceman]

Josh Harris group submits $6B bid for Commanders (usatoday.com)

 

[Ninjablade]

Holy cannoli. I think he used to own part of the Steelers and the Philadelphia 76ers, but I could be confusing him with someone else. At the very least, glad Snyder is out of there. Maybe they'll finally build a stadium that isn't a disgusting safety hazard.

 

[sycamore]

Josh Harris group submits $6B bid for Commanders (usatoday.com)

Best day in DC Sports since the Caps won it all in '18.

 

[Dr. Evil]

Josh Harris group submits $6B bid for Commanders (usatoday.com)

This is the reaction of Commanders fans right now:

 

[Babillygunn]

Levis "might" be overrated, but consider the team he was playing for as opposed to Young and Stroud. His offensive line was a complete and utter hot mess and he didn't have much in the way of receivers. If you put him on an Alabama or OSU team, who knows how he would have looked?

I watched a ton of Levis games as a UK fan. The best way to evaluate him would be to look at his Junior year when the Oline was good and he had future Giant WanDale Robinson at WR. He was solid if not spectacular. He is accurate and makes good plays with his feet. His decision making could improve, he needs to protect the ball better when he is running and he has a bad habit of zeroing in on one target.

I like Levis. He seems like a good kid. He’s really smart. He graduated when he was at Penn State after his Sophomore season with a business/finance degree then spent his two seasons at UK going for a Masters. So he is really sharp. He’s got a ton of physical tools, but I would be concerned with the beating he took in his senior year behind a terrible UK line. That was bar none the worst O lines I’ve seen in quite some time. He is definitely an NFL starting caliber qb, but unless I was hurting, I don’t think I’d take him before the second round.

 

[InCali]

I watched a ton of Levis games as a UK fan. The best way to evaluate him would be to look at his Junior year when the Oline was good and he had future Giant WanDale Robinson at WR. He was solid if not spectacular. He is accurate and makes good plays with his feet. His decision making could improve, he needs to protect the ball better when he is running and he has a bad habit of zeroing in on one target.

I like Levis. He seems like a good kid. He’s really smart. He graduated when he was at Penn State after his Sophomore season with a business/finance degree then spent his two seasons at UK going for a Masters. So he is really sharp. He’s got a ton of physical tools, but I would be concerned with the beating he took in his senior year behind a terrible UK line. That was bar none the worst O lines I’ve seen in quite some time. He is definitely an NFL starting caliber qb, but unless I was hurting, I don’t think I’d take him before the second round.

I only saw a couple of their games, but that was basically my take. How the hell does someone get their bachelor's in 2 years??? He must have done a lot of AP work in high school. I didn't know about any of that.

I don't see any way he lasts until even late in the 1st though. There are way too many teams who need a QB to pass on him. I see him as the 4th QB taken. He could even be selected by the Raiders, but, if he isn't, I can't see the Titans, Pats, or Jets passing on him; even IF the Jets get Rodgers. I also think it's a very good bet that Hendon Hooker goes in round 1 and he's 25 and coming off a torn ACL.

There are so, so many teams that are hurting at QB.......

 

[InCali]

I was looking at one of the Sporting News mock drafts and they have Hendon Hooker lasting until towards the end of the 3rd round and going to Detroit. I honestly don't know how some of these guys keep their jobs. Someone else had Houston going with Will Anderson with the 2nd pick. I just don't see it.

 

[InCali]

I don't understand why people don't think the Jets have any sort of backup plan at QB if they don't get Rodgers. I think Hooker could be a real sleeper of a QB and would probably be there at 13. His stock is lower than usual because of his age and the injury, but Levis is only a year (or two?) younger. Barring injury, I think Hendon might have very well been a top 10 pick. The Jets then have 2 pretty high 2nd round picks to go after O line, save a ton of money by not taking on Rodgers' contract, and can do more in free agency.

If the Packers don't trade Rodgers', they're sitting on his salary as a backup QB.

EDIT: BTW, I think 13 is a little high, but if you can get your QB, it doesn't matter. The Jets could always trade back, but don't trade back behind the Vikings and watch out for them maybe leapfrogging you because Minnesota would be an ideal place for Hooker. So would Seattle, but I expect them to go D with both of their round 1 picks. Of course, they are also sitting at 37 and could package that and trade up if they were so inclined. Tampa Bay is another team that might want Hooker.

 

[Ninjablade]

The really stupid amount of money he's getting aside, giving a 24yr old who has only had one exceptional season a no trade clause is as stupid as stupid gets. If it works out great, none of that matters, but I would hate the idea of giving a young player without a long established track record that kind of power.

This does reset the market though for guys like Herbert and Burrow. Both of them should be getting paid more than this. Hell, this is probably now the floor for Jackson as well.

 

[InCali]

The really stupid amount of money he's getting aside, giving a 24yr old who has only had one exceptional season a no trade clause is as stupid as stupid gets. If it works out great, none of that matters, but I would hate the idea of giving a young player without a long established track record that kind of power.

This does reset the market though for guys like Herbert and Burrow. Both of them should be getting paid more than this. Hell, this is probably now the floor for Jackson as well.

Jesus.....I guess that's what happens if you take your team to the SB, but still.......The Raiders' deal with Jimmy is starting to look like the deal of the century. I think I read that the salary cap is going up substantially (maybe that was the NBA), but, again, still.......

Even though he had a great year, I don't consider Hurts a top 5 QB in the league. Maybe top 7 or 8.....around there. Now even Rodgers' contract is looking like a steal. LOL.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

WR Williams, 3 other Lions suspended for betting