Spider-Man 3 Official Thread for the Spider-Man 3 Footage on Heroes and NBC.com!

[Isildur´s Heir]

That´s not GG senior, that´s GG junior.
GG senior is six feet under, he works in the sewers.

 

[blud_knight]

i know normie is "dead" not that that means **** in comics. seriously though, why did they turn the glider into a snowboard? did the new goblin get high before he went out to battle spider-man?

 

[Visionary]

Great, idiot talk.

 

[shigsy2003]

i know normie is "dead" not that that means **** in comics. seriously though, why did they turn the glider into a snowboard? did the new goblin get high before he went out to battle spider-man?

I actually like the New Goblin look, it is a lot better than the Power Rangers look from the first film. The Snowboard is pretty leathel, it batters Pete around like hockey puck.

It is also useful in case Pete/Spidey ever tried to sneak off in alley ways.

 

[DSET]

i know normie is "dead" not that that means **** in comics. seriously though, why did they turn the glider into a snowboard? did the new goblin get high before he went out to battle spider-man?

i Agree the snowboard is a little much but com'on the overall suit isnt that badd If he had a hood over his head and a glider instead it be almost perfect

 

[blud_knight]

i love the suit, don't get me wrong. I love the razor bats, pumpkin bombs. everything, I'm just luke warm on the board/glider.

 

[shigsy2003]

i love the suit, don't get me wrong. I love the razor bats, pumpkin bombs. everything, I'm just luke warm on the board/glider.

Well you may come to like it eventually. It just may take time to adjust. It did with me.

Having seen it in action I am satisfied with all of Harry's new look.

 

[Vartha]

The HD idea of showing off this thing is great, but not all LIKE MY SELF can play it smoothly, so I dont understand what's happened to good old fashioned QuickTime-format!!? Would it have been so difficult to put that next to the HD version? that's my point.

Mine too, How difficult is it to do that?

 

[3 Dev Adam]

I don't care anymore if it's the Night Surfer, the New Goblin, Harry or Angry Friend With Green Gas. I watch the damn footage at least twice a day and I always go

I'm ****ing HYPED, dammit!

 

[ghost_x]

i know normie is "dead" not that that means **** in comics. seriously though, why did they turn the glider into a snowboard? did the new goblin get high before he went out to battle spider-man?

Welllll, yes, he did

 

[Ryo Jin]

HIGH OFF LIFE. And maybe the Goblin Serum, that's still speculation as we all know, just like how Venom stole the purple right off Barney, and how Sandman's true villain name is Snuffalupicus.

 

[ghost_x]

I think someone else is on the wacky tobacco as we speak...

 

[Mr Jide]

First of all, the sense was handled just right in that scene for me, Peter´s expression wouldn´t change for more than a half-second, to indicate how fast Harry attacked, and it did. And we all make mistakes. Want perfection, talk to God.

Well it wasn't handled right for me. The senses should have gone off long before Harry got as close as he did before Peter's expression changed. Also, I'm not asking for perfection but what I am asking for are, mistakes not to be repeated and for some consistency, its hardly asking for much or perfection for that matter.

 

[Ryo Jin]

Maybe.

 

[pedro parkero]

His spider-sense went off. We just didn't see it in the slow-motion we are used to seeing it in.

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Yes, though I would have liked that Peter turns his head around a little first before he was "swept off his feet" by Harry.


'Cause it's funny, you know. In the first movie at the festival he felt the danger that is the Green Goblin miles away, and THAT danger wasn't even directed at him!

Concluding from these facts, maybe the Spider-sense works best when Peter is feeling jealous and works least if he's so happy he's smiling like an idiot? I don't know...



P.S.
Um, guys, the .MOV link from the sony site from the stickied thread is not working anymore! I am on dial-up so, can anyone verify this? Is there any updated links on the sweet aerial fight? Youtube doesn't cut it for me anymore...

 

[ultimatefan]

I didn´t said that he was a brute force fighter, but he isn´t Batman either.
Spider-Man is, above all, agile. His greatest power is his agility and spider-sense.
Combine both, and you have to be fast and skillful to actually land a punch on the webhead.

Harry took the serum and he probably trained a lot. That, combined with improvements on the original Goblin technology, make him worthy of giving Pete at least some hard time, but Pete is superior and it was pretty clear to me.

 

[terry78]

Keep in mind that Harry has basically gone nuts. He keeps seeing his father, who is a hallucination, constantly taunting and insulting him, egging him on to destroy Parker. Those pyschotic epsiodes could also include faux "training" that the dead Norman is giving Harry. Don't know how that works, but whatever.

 

[bosef982]

You know, Kudos to James Franco in this footage. He really really sells this scene and the action and the amount of blue screen work he had to do here.

 

[ultimatefan]

Well it wasn't handled right for me. The senses should have gone off long before Harry got as close as he did before Peter's expression changed. Also, I'm not asking for perfection but what I am asking for are, mistakes not to be repeated and for some consistency, its hardly asking for much or perfection for that matter.

Which is why these inconsistencies happen. Ask any comics writer and they will tell you the spider-sense is as much a curse as a blessing. It can be great to generate a sense of suspense and dread, but if you use it all the time, it kills any suspense, it makes Peter practically invincible when nobody can attack him or hit him by surprise. Plus, Peter is in the middle of traffic, the sense could have initially mistaken Harry for an approaching vehicle. Another common mistake in the comics is to make the sense so powerful and accurate that it´s basically precognition, and in fact in theory it´s just a very fast neurological response.

 

[Visionary]

Indeed, but fanboyish geeks, can't seem to comprehend this. ^

 

[Mr Jide]

Which is why these inconsistencies happen. Ask any comics writer and they will tell you the spider-sense is as much a curse as a blessing. It can be great to generate a sense of suspense and dread, but if you use it all the time, it kills any suspense, it makes Peter practically invincible when nobody can attack him or hit him by surprise. Plus, Peter is in the middle of traffic, the sense could have initially mistaken Harry for an approaching vehicle. Another common mistake in the comics is to make the sense so powerful and accurate that it´s basically precognition, and in fact in theory it´s just a very fast neurological response.

Sm2 had Peter react accordingly when those car jackers almost mowed him over. Hoever, in normal traffic, approaching vehicles aren't a factor, they dont present any danger in this instance unless its otherwise been made clear. So, sm3 should have had Pete react the same way and been made aware ealier on of Harry's presense but it could have been handled in a way that still prevented spidey from reacting and avoiding Harry's attack. Its not difficult to do, all thats asked for is for some accuracy.
However, Using the spider sense all the time doesn't kill the suspense at all.
If it was a case of Peter reacting to his spidey sense and then avoiding the danger/threat all the time then yeah, it would kill the suspense but the spider sense is something that is a fixed occurence just like the ability to wall crawl. Its just a matter of whether Peter trusts it all the time, which we all know he doesn't and thats why he gets clobbered a lot.

 

[xboxgamer94]

So....nobody has this 7 min thing in AVI?

 

[ultimatefan]

Sm2 had Peter react accordingly when those car jackers almost mowed him over. Hoever, in normal traffic, approaching vehicles aren't a factor, they dont present any danger in this instance unless its otherwise been made clear. So, sm3 should have had Pete react the same way and been made aware ealier on of Harry's presense but it could have been handled in a way that still prevented spidey from reacting and avoiding Harry's attack. Its not difficult to do, all thats asked for is for some accuracy.
However, Using the spider sense all the time doesn't kill the suspense at all.
If it was a case of Peter reacting to his spidey sense and then avoiding the danger/threat all the time then yeah, it would kill the suspense but the spider sense is something that is a fixed occurence just like the ability to wall crawl. Its just a matter of whether Peter trusts it all the time, which we all know he doesn't and thats why he gets clobbered a lot.

cars represent a danger in traffic duz they can hit his scooter, if a car gets closer or accelerates towards his scooter, it already represents some danger, and Peter doesn´t react differently from that scene, except the car is a bit slower than Harry, so he had time to jump. Peter not trusting the spider-sense just so it justifies him being clobbered is every bit as inconsistent as it not going off. If you have a sense that warns about danger and you don´t know exactly what it is, you´re supposed to trust it.

You´re basically complaining about something that every writer in the world does, which is poetic license. Every fiction does some logic or reality bending here and there, in order to make the story more exciting, dramatic, etc. Shakespeare did that. The comics do that with Peter´s powers all the time. If you believe any of those profiles about how much a hero can lift, etc. are actually followed by comics writers, there´s a piece of land in Iraq I´d love to sell...

 

[Mr Jide]

cars represent a danger in traffic duz they can hit his scooter,

Well, yeah of course, thats pretty obvious but ordinary traffic wouldn't set of his spider-sense because its not a threat. If a vehicle was speeding up towards him, then it would go off because there's an immediate threat/danger but where there's no incident in traffic, there's no reason for his spider-sense to go off.

if a car gets closer or accelerates towards his scooter, it already represents some danger,

Correct

and Peter doesn´t react differently from that scene, except the car is a bit slower than Harry, so he had time to jump.

He did react differently. I just watched that particular scene 30mins ago for reference. He reacted sooner and effectively, allowing him to have the time to avoide the car's collision. Whereas in sm3, he reacted too slow thus, not being able to avoid Harry. The car's speed being slower had nothing to do with it, to me it looks as though the car and harry were moving towards Pete at similar speeds but thats irrelevent, the case in point is, that the spider-sense responded way too slow in sm3.

Peter not trusting the spider-sense just so it justifies him being clobbered is every bit as inconsistent as it not going off.

Not at all. The spider sense goes off all the time when there is danger. Like I said before, its a consistant occurance just like the ability to wall crawl is. The only times where the spider sense "doesn't go off" is if the threat is venom or anyone else who can somehow bypass the spider-sense or if, spidey deliberately or subconsciously ignores it. Key word, ignore.

You´re basically complaining about something that every writer in the world does, which is poetic license. Every fiction does some logic or reality bending here and there, in order to make the story more exciting, dramatic, etc. Shakespeare did that.The comics do that with Peter´s powers all the time. If you believe any of those profiles about how much a hero can lift, etc. are actually followed by comics writers, there´s a piece of land in Iraq I´d love to sell...

First of all, as so many others are quick to point out, this is the movie not the comics. Raimi claims to know how what spidey's all about, so why not get it right? Secondly, writers dont have to spoon feed the notion that Pete deliberately/subconsciously ignores his spidey sense. That'll just serve nothing more as an unwanted distraction, something Stan Lee respectfully used to do with his comics back in the day but isn't needed today.

 

[ghost_x]

The thing is, Peter hasn't really explored his spider-sense in the movies, he's just used them as they are set off. He has in the past actually used them in the same way Daredevil uses sound, as sort of a sonar rader, he's spider-sense has enhanced in the comics. In the movie however it's as simple as, when dangers around, s--t slows down and a record player seems to turn off