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The Al Gore Thread: 'Former Vice-Presidential' Edition

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How the hell does Al Gore produce his own geothermal energy? Don't you need, you know, a ****ing geyser for that? :huh:

Isn't geothermal energy when you use the heat from within the earth? Or am I completely thinking of something else?
 
Isn't geothermal energy when you use the heat from within the earth? Or am I completely thinking of something else?

Yeah, but you usually need access to a geothermal field in order to utilize that heat for major energy purposes...
 
Yeah, but you usually need access to a geothermal field in order to utilize that heat for major energy purposes...

There are companies around my area that are promoting geothermal technology as a means of energy (heating and cooling) for your home. They will install the systems and everything.

And I can assure you that I am nowhere near a geyser or anything like that. :funny:
 
There are companies around my area that are promoting geothermal technology as a means to heat your home. They will install the systems and everything.

And I can assure you that I am nowhere near a geyser or anything like that.

Well, maybe I am specifically thinking of the energy collected from geothermal fields, then. From what I've read in the past few minutes, geothermal pumps are relatively new, and pretty expensive.
 
Well, maybe I am specifically thinking of the energy collected from geothermal fields, then. From what I've read in the past few minutes, geothermal pumps are relatively new, and pretty expensive.

I believe they are pretty new...and very expensive!
 
I believe they are pretty new...and very expensive!

An article I read said that those wishing to install geothermal pumps should expect to pay between $4,000 and $11,000 for the complete system.
 
An article I read said that those wishing to install geothermal pumps should expect to pay between $4,000 and $11,000 for the complete system.

Yeah, I've read upwards of $15,000 to $20,000. (Supposedly these systems are the way to go though! If you can afford it.)
 
Oh this story? Well Fox News ran with it earlier in the week, so its making the rounds with conservative blogs, publications, etc.

Gore does try to keep his power more "green friendly," but yes, even with employees and working at his home which is four times larger than usual, he spends more power than the average American and there was an increase this year.

Does it alter the fact that our planet is experiencing drastic climate change that could have disasterous consequences in our children or grandchildren's lifetimes, if not our own? Nope.
 
P.S. Hypocrites are those who speak of peaceful solutions and lie about going to war. Or praise Iraq for using their judicial system but are appalled when the Constitution is upheld at home. Just saying.
 
The statement was made to foreign leaders - not American citizens.

That statement is inane cowboy rhetoric and idealism that got us bogged down in a needless war and was an attempt to bully allies into joining us on the sinking ship.
 
I'm saying that if Al Gore wants everyone to change their way of life to one that is more "Earth" friendly - he should heed his own advice.

If Al Gore made the sacrifices he expects the rest of us to make - he would have the credibility to do so and look far less like a hypocritical ass.

but my point is, that is Bull, politicians NEVER make the same sacrifices that they expect the general population to make, and yet the urgency or necessity of it is not diminished by this.
 
but my point is, that is Bull, politicians NEVER make the same sacrifices that they expect the general population to make, and yet the urgency or necessity of it is not diminished by this.

But the thread is not titled "Al Gore's message is a load of **** because Al Gore is a hypocrite." Hell, most people criticizing him have said "It does not invalidate his message...but..." This thread is about Al Gore's character, not his message.
 
and my point is that every single politician even those beloved by you or others are the exact same, take your pick, none of them have threads about their hypocrisy.

why is that?
 
But we are not talking about them, are we?
 
and my point is that every single politician even those beloved by you or others are the exact same, take your pick, none of them have threads about their hypocrisy.

why is that?

makes me wonder why this thread hasn't been merged with the Al Gore thread yet. hmmmmmm....
 
and my point is that every single politician even those beloved by you or others are the exact same, take your pick, none of them have threads about their hypocrisy.

why is that?


So does that invalidate the argument or statement? The road you're about to go down will end with defending Bush because someone before him was worse and then defending that person with the "worse" actions of someone else, with the end result of no one being to blame for any of their own actions.

Look, bush is an ass and he's done some stupid horrible things. Does that mean everyone else gets a pass cause he's worse? It shouldn't, and it undermines your beliefs to go with such a cheap copout. Gore is a hypocrite by his lifestyle, whether he "buys" his way clean or not. There's no neutrality the way his supporters like to see it, it's a trade off but there's no way to accurately measure what he's "saved" vs what he's "hurt" through donations and recklessness, just predictions and I've seen how gore likes to use favorable predicitions to help his case (an inconvienant truth). End of the day though to be an "envirnmentalist" that follows in gore's actions would be impossible for the average US citizen, only the rich could do it. There's a double standard here that if regarding anything other than the envirnment we'd be all over any politician about.

There are plenty of threads knocking various politicans on here from George Washington to Clinton with all sorts of truths, half truths, propaganda or outright lies. No one should or does get a pass. If you're using bush as the comparison I don't think you'd have to look too far to find threads about his hypocracies or lies. Hell you wouldn't even have to look for a thread about him, he get's brought up in ones about Gore as well.

Gore's overall message was good, but to say that excuses him from practicing what he preaches is a pretty bad road of thought to go down. He's profitted far more from his policies then they've cost him and that's something to consider. It doesn't hurt his argument to show the feat of clay of the man, just shows that he's human and a politican just like all the others and hopefully seperates the symbol (al gore) from the message (conserve more) which is a good thing in the long road especially since gore doesn't actually sacrifice anything for his beliefs, he actually makes all that money that he uses to "offset" his deficiencies from telling other people how not to live the exact way he does.
 
I back what Gore has said and done for the enviroment but he's a hypocrite. These technologies weren't just invented last year. Solar panels have been around for ages!!
Technologies to improve efficiency and make them viable, however....
 
So does that invalidate the argument or statement? The road you're about to go down will end with defending Bush because someone before him was worse and then defending that person with the "worse" actions of someone else, with the end result of no one being to blame for any of their own actions.

no, it doesn't invalidate either.
the extent of the outrage is ridiculous though, since MY argument isn't "there are people worse so why bother" My argument is that this thread has nothing new on it.
for starters, this was an issue like a year ago when people wanted valid reasons to NOT "believe" that man has an effect on his eco-system.
solution?

let's hate Al Gore.
browse through the threads I have made you'll notice I have never said

" Bush Hypocrite?" because that's both ridiculous and inconsequential.

Gore is a hypocrite by his lifestyle, whether he "buys" his way clean or not. There's no neutrality the way his supporters like to see it, it's a trade off but there's no way to accurately measure what he's "saved" vs what he's "hurt" through donations and recklessness

I don't remember arguing that.
I don't remember saying he wasn't, I don;t think it's important, like the Wright thing.
it's noise, like always.
people with interests that **** up the world live for this ****, because then, they can point at this as if it WAS important and by endlessly discussin non-issues like these we fall into their game.
:huh: :up:
I remember when every other article that touted the "global warming hoax" spoke with derision of "gore and his followers" like it was a church galvanizing all sorts of idiots into believing that not doing anything about the environment was a way to stick it to Al Gore.


just predictions and I've seen how gore likes to use favorable predicitions to help his case (an inconvienant truth). End of the day though to be an "envirnmentalist" that follows in gore's actions would be impossible for the average US citizen, only the rich could do it. There's a double standard here that if regarding anything other than the envirnment we'd be all over any politician about.

:huh: now we are on to inconvenient truth?
to be an environmentalist all you have to do is give up a fraction of your convenience like Stormin' Norman said, that's what this is all about, people like their convenience and they don;t like to take responsibility for their actions and their impact on their environment, the best way to continue as such? find a scapegoat.
"well, since I can't do nothin' for the dad gum environment I ain't gonna! a-hiuk!" :whatever:
the fact that the simple double standard you mentioned applies to every single politician and yet none of them have threads made about them is an example of how this isn't even about Gore anymore.



There are plenty of threads knocking various politicans on here from George Washington to Clinton with all sorts of truths, half truths, propaganda or outright lies. No one should or does get a pass. If you're using bush as the comparison I don't think you'd have to look too far to find threads about his hypocracies or lies. Hell you wouldn't even have to look for a thread about him, he get's brought up in ones about Gore as well.

no, that's incorrect there are not "plenty of threads knocking various politicians " at all, and you KNOW this.
the reason I'm using Bush is that acting outraged at a guy that has a large house and has been on the environmental train for the last 30 or 40 years is ridiculous when there's a WAR going on, what importance does Gora have in the scheme of things anyway he isn't even a scientist for god's sake!


Gore's overall message was good, but to say that excuses him from practicing what he preaches is a pretty bad road of thought to go down. He's profitted far more from his policies then they've cost him and that's something to consider.

I don't think I have ever said, are you sure it's me you wanted to quote?


It doesn't hurt his argument to show the feat of clay of the man, just shows that he's human and a politican just like all the others and hopefully seperates the symbol (al gore) from the message (conserve more) which is a good thing in the long road especially since gore doesn't actually sacrifice anything for his beliefs, he actually makes all that money that he uses to "offset" his deficiencies from telling other people how not to live the exact way he does.

I call ******** on that.
sorry, but I do.
 

Oh lord, it is such a ridiculous prospect. Why the hell would Gore go back to being VP? He makes more as a lobbyist (yes, Gore is by definition an enviromental lobbyist...so apparently Obama is now willing to take endorsements from lobbyists :cwink:). He did not have presidential aspirations in this election (and he would have won. Studies show he would've taken about 30-40 % of both Clinton supporters and Obama supporters and basically all Edwards supporters), so why would he do a 180 and become VP again? The prospect of Gore taking the second seat again is nothing more than foolish fantasizing.
 
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