Mass Effect 3

[Donut]

I make my guy full bad ass but I always save the team. What the **** kind of leader lets any of his team die when you can save them ?

 

[ChrisBaleBatman]

The vibe I got, was that the Alliance was kinda iffy about aliens overall. I remember after an Alliance official (General...or something, don't remember exactly) had criticized my Shepard for allowing aliens so close to human black ops space gear with the Normandy, when he inspected the Normandy on some routine Alliance check up of the Normandy.

I think, if memory also serves me well, that the news reporter mentioned how humans were worried about how involved Shep was with aliens too.

I mean, wasn't the operation in ME1 actually the first of it's kind? Where Humans and aliens actually joined forces in that sort of capacity? And relatively recently after there was a war.

Ashley's views are molded out of a few of those things, as well as the thing with her father. I've heard people say how Cerebrus came off as racist, too. Although, I wouldn't say that, either. Mordin getting called a Nazi was something, yeah. I mean, yeah I understood it, and he is half remorseful (and half at peace with it), but that was still some ****ed up ****...

 

[Raiden]

The vibe I got, was that the Alliance was kinda iffy about aliens overall. I remember after an Alliance official (General...or something, don't remember exactly) had criticized my Shepard for allowing aliens so close to human black ops space gear with the Normandy, when he inspected the Normandy on some routine Alliance check up of the Normandy.

I think, if memory also serves me well, that the news reporter mentioned how humans were worried about how involved Shep was with aliens too.

I mean, wasn't the operation in ME1 actually the first of it's kind? Where Humans and aliens actually joined forces in that sort of capacity? And relatively recently after there was a war.

Ashley's views are molded out of a few of those things, as well as the thing with her father. I've heard people say how Cerebrus came off as racist, too. Although, I wouldn't say that, either. Mordin getting called a Nazi was something, yeah. I mean, yeah I understood it, and he is half remorseful (and half at peace with it), but that was still some ****ed up ****...

Personally, I never thought Ashley was racist or anything, because her view is shared by many humans who are suspicious about other aliens in the galaxy. However, she was still willing to fight next to the aliens that she distrusted, so she's better than most of them out there.

 

[Erzengel]

Well the Council seemed very selective on who they allowed in. Salarians, Turians and the Asari.

Humanity wasn't the only species upset that they were kept out of the Council. I remember the Volus and another species echoing the same resentment.

So it's easy to see why they would be suspicious of other species seemingly in charge of the known systems.

 

[Upset Spideyfan]

It isn't about entire species when either of them change, either - it's about the individuals involved that they've dealt with.

Actually in Ash's case its not her interactions with aliens that changes her opinion its when Shepard brings God into the conversation and says that the diversity in the galaxy must be for a reason that decides not to view aliens as inherently antagonistic.

Which, Ashley aside, is my least favorite Mass Effect moment but that's a whole other conversation.

Wrex is dead in my primary playthrough, .

And to finally get to your quoted mention about her distrusting Garrus and Wrex - yes, initially. It's also a qualified distrust, which you left out. Her distrust in the specific instance is about letting them in the nuts and bolts of a prototype Alliance vessel, which is really no different than if someone in the U.S. military didn't want someone from Britain flying a brand-spanking-new military plane.

I always found it strange she singled out Garrus as a threat. I mean the Normandy was co-developed by the Turians.

 

[Soapy]

I don't think God ever came into the conversation with Ashley and my Shepard. She talked about her dead father, Shepard called him a zombie, and that was that.

 

[Upset Spideyfan]

I don't think God ever came into the conversation with Ashley and my Shepard. She talked about her dead father, Shepard called him a zombie, and that was that.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hocez05Tqg8

Start at the 3:00 minute mark.

 

[Upset Spideyfan]

http://www.gameinformer.com/b/featu...y-hudson-interview-how-mass-effect-began.aspx

 

[El Bastardo]

You let Wrex die? Have you no soul? Even as a full renegade i let him live. Wrex is a bawss.

I didn't just let Wrex die. I killed Wrex.

Wrex stepped up to the wrong Shepard.

 

[El Bastardo]

I mostly did it because I knew it would make Upset Spideyfan cry.

True story.

 

[Erzengel]

Part of me wants to do a playthrough where you can kill off as much of the crew as possible.

Does anyone know what's the maximum amount of people that can die in Mass Effect 2?

 

[El Bastardo]

Well, Shepard can only die if there are no crewmembers left remaining to pull him up after he misses the jump onto the Normandy at the end. So if you want Shepard to survive, you need to make sure you have two crewmembers still alive.

When it come to killing them off, it comes down to playing the numbers game. Take away all benefits you can use against the system - do not upgrade the Normandy, first and foremost. I believe that results in Thane, Jack, and Legion all dying on the way to the base. From there you'd have to choose poor leaders and tech experts - or the right ones, not counting Miranda, so long as they are unloyal - and then make sure to leave all squishies to defend the final position.

You might have to not recruit people, too, because there's potentially too many characters. And you'd have to decide which two characters you definitely wanted surviving. But, basically, your Shepard kinda has to be a total schmuck to get that many characters dead.

 

[Benstamania]

But, basically, your Shepard kinda has to be a total schmuck to get that many characters dead.

"I'm Commander Shepard and HERPADERP!"

 

[El Bastardo]

rofl

 

[Erzengel]

I just remembered a save on my first Mass Effect where I let Kaiden and Wrex die.

You send somebody back with the survivors. You need someone to pull you up, and I'm not exactly sure if the 2 people you get to fight the Human Reaper survive all the time.

 

[Benstamania]

So... what does Shepard do if he runs back to the Normandy and no one is there? Just put his hands on his waist and mutter "****" under his breath?

Or does he jump and fall?

Either one would be pretty humorous.

 

[El Bastardo]

I just remembered a save on my first Mass Effect where I let Kaiden and Wrex die.

You send somebody back with the survivors. You need someone to pull you up, and I'm not exactly sure if the 2 people you get to fight the Human Reaper survive all the time.

They only survive if they're loyal. Hence, you'll need two loyal squadmates to import Shepard. And if you want the non-combatant crew to survive, that squadmate has to be loyal as well.

So... what does Shepard do if he runs back to the Normandy and no one is there? Just put his hands on his waist and mutter "****" under his breath?

Or does he jump and fall?

Either one would be pretty humorous.

He catches himself on the edge like usual. Joker tries to pull him up but can't. They exchange a tearful goodbye, kiss - err, no kissing, actually, and then Shepard lets go and falls so Joker can get the Normandy out of there.

You can find any number of "Shepard dies" endings on youtube.

 

[Benstamania]

YouTube, I always forget about YouTube, lol.

Anyway... I have no idea why anyone would want that ending. I guess if you're extremely bored...

 

[Benstamania]

That ending makes me happy I aim for all of my teams survival, lol.

 

[Flash Facts]

Actually in Ash's case its not her interactions with aliens that changes her opinion its when Shepard brings God into the conversation and says that the diversity in the galaxy must be for a reason that decides not to view aliens as inherently antagonistic.

Which, Ashley aside, is my least favorite Mass Effect moment but that's a whole other conversation.

I always figured Ashley's religious beliefs is another major reason why she was so hated. A lot of Sci-Fi enthusiast don't seem to like human religious characters or non scientific explanations for things in their fiction.

Though I find it really interesting that they don't seem to mind aliens being religious as much.

 

[Upset Spideyfan]

I don't mind her religious side at all actually, I just don't like the idea of using "God" as an argument in order to get somebody to change their beliefs - that's what bothered me about that scene.

 

[The Squirrel]

Part of me wants to do a playthrough where you can kill off as much of the crew as possible.

Does anyone know what's the maximum amount of people that can die in Mass Effect 2?

You need two to live in order for Shepard to survive. I just completed a play through where Miranda and Jacob were the only survivors on the squad.

 

[Flash Facts]

I don't mind her religious side at all actually, I just don't like the idea of using "God" as an argument in order to get somebody to change their beliefs - that's what bothered me about that scene.

Oh, I didn't mean you specifically. Your mentioning of it just brought it to mind.

Though in that conversation I always thought that the important part was the next thing Shepard says which in my playthough was about how the aliens act as a balancing force to humans natural inclination for progression at all cost or something to that affect.

 

[Soapy]

Casey Hudson Interview: How Mass Effect Began

Imagine a Mass Effect trilogy without aliens, set entirely on one planet. In the first of our series of interviews with Mass Effect's director Casey Hudson, we discuss the genesis of Bioware's sci-fi epic and the different paths that it could have taken. Check out the video below to learn how the project began and why Mass Effect's director doubts a trilogy of this size and scope will ever happen again.

 

[Upset Spideyfan]

I'm sure talks are already in progress about how they'll proceed once ME3 is done. I'm guessing, and Hudson's comments kind of support this, that they won't attempt a ME4/5/6 trilogy - but they've repeatedly said that they're looking to continue developing the Mass Effect franchise. I just wonder how much they'll try to branch out this series. I think of all the new series created this gen, Mass Effect as a universe clearly has the greatest potential to endure in the long term. Just going by stuff like the comments in GameInformer it seems that we'll be seeing something with a multiplayer focus down the line but I'm just left wondering if we'll be seeing ME make its way into different genres.