The Wrestling Thread Got, GOT by Little Jimmy!!!!

[Benstamania]

I think it's on WWE.com.

...I THINK, no idea though as I never watch it.

 

[X Knight]

yeah.......that just shows how pointless NXT is.......lol

surprisingly, I enjoyed Tough Enough more than I expected.

I would't mind seeing that show return.

 

[Benstamania]

Rock responded to CM Punk via Twitter...

TheRock Dwayne Johnson
CM Punk: it's simple business - The Rock is the main event at Wrestlemania cause it draws more money in one night, then u will in lifetime.

Big ol' MEH, Rock...

 

[Nemi]

I know they do this with NXT but it would be interesting if they have another season of Tough Enough and Andy is still down in FCW.

 

[Lunar_Wolf]

I forgot all about Kaval winning NXT, haha. Riley is the true winner in my eyes.

 

[Mr.Webs]

Yeah Rock, congrats. One match a year with a forseeable ending, or a new year long program in which you have no idea what happens next keeping you tuning in. Yeah, I think I'll go with Punk who doesn't have to rely on his Greatest Hits to keep people interested.

 

[NotFadeAway]

Anyone else get the feeling that Sinclair broadcasting will throw alot of money at CM Punk to get him back in Ring Of Honor to be the top guy in the company and give it a shot in the arm as the company will now be viewed by more people than ever before.

I am not brining this up only in light of Punk's promo Monday, as I mean't to mention it for awhile now. Punk in my mind is the perfect commodity for Sinclair to lure in and present as the face of the company. If TNA could be trusted to use Punk right, Punk would be the perfect representation of "wrestling matters", but TNA simply cannot do anything right and therefor I hope Punk goes to ROH. With Punk in ROH, adding to the roster of Benjamin, Haas, Cabana, Generico, Strong, the Briscoes, Eddie Edwards, thats a good base. I have a feeling that if his health issues can be solved, Nigel McGuinness will be on his way back. I'm going to go out on a limb and make a wild prediciton and that is ROH will try and land Mick Foley as well. Punk and Foley will be a shot in the arm for the company. If all this happens, ROH can easily overtake TNA in time with the new television set up.

Now, if only Samoa Joe can somehow get away from TNA and go back to ROH.

 

[Dr. Evil]

Winner of this season of NXT gets a spot on the next season of NXT. I don't know why there's going to be another season.

 

[Superark]

Yeah Rock, congrats. One match a year with a forseeable ending, or a new year long program in which you have no idea what happens next keeping you tuning in. Yeah, I think I'll go with Punk who doesn't have to rely on his Greatest Hits to keep people interested.

There's truth in what Rock said though.

Anyone else get the feeling that Sinclair broadcasting will throw alot of money at CM Punk to get him back in Ring Of Honor to be the top guy in the company and give it a shot in the arm as the company will now be viewed by more people than ever before.

I am not brining this up only in light of Punk's promo Monday, as I mean't to mention it for awhile now. Punk in my mind is the perfect commodity for Sinclair to lure in and present as the face of the company. If TNA could be trusted to use Punk right, Punk would be the perfect representation of "wrestling matters", but TNA simply cannot do anything right and therefor I hope Punk goes to ROH. With Punk in ROH, adding to the roster of Benjamin, Haas, Cabana, Generico, Strong, the Briscoes, Eddie Edwards, thats a good base. I have a feeling that if his health issues can be solved, Nigel McGuinness will be on his way back. I'm going to go out on a limb and make a wild prediciton and that is ROH will try and land Mick Foley as well. Punk and Foley will be a shot in the arm for the company. If all this happens, ROH can easily overtake TNA in time with the new television set up.

Now, if only Samoa Joe can somehow get away from TNA and go back to ROH.

Nope they won't get Punk to a long term deal, and even if they do, it won't mean anything. This Sinclair is not the be all end all that fans are hoping it to be. It's a nice deal for them sure, but they will be broadcasting in syndication. It's good they'll be getting some exposure, but unless they can convince a network to give them a major cable spot, they'll stay where they are which is behind TNA.

There's a reason why some of the guys like Joe and Daniels continue to sign with TNA and that's because they can make more longterm money there.

Mike Johnson was just saying the other days how guys still look at the Sinclair deal as unsure thing when it comes to the longterm future of the guys

 

[Metamorpho1977]

Low Ki is going to be on TNA this week.

 

[Nell2ThaIzzay]

There's truth in what Rock said though.

Yea. It certainly wasn't the most creative comeback, but Rock is bigger than Punk ever will be. Sayin' Rock has to resort to his "greatest hits", well yea, I mean his greatest hits is better than Punk's current hits.

Except maybe that promo from Monday. That was rockin', and as an individual promo, might be the best I've ever seen, and if not, it's definitely a top one.

But as a whole package, I'd still prefer to see a lot of people, past and present, over Punk.

 

[Mr.Webs]

There's truth in what Rock said though.

Yes, some truth. The Rock is one of the greatest entertainers in this business, no doubt. He helped make wrestling what it is today, pushed it to it's limits....and then he left, and that was cool. Unlike some others, I respected his decision. It made sense for him to do that.

And now he's back, and he's never ever going away....but he didn't come back the next week....etc., etc. As the weeks went on, he's not who he once was, nor are his promos as strong. If The Rock won't commit, then someone like Punk should be in the main event, because the company should be putting all their weight behind new stars and not old ones who says they're back but they aren't. At least, that's my view.

 

[X Knight]

Winner of this season of NXT gets a spot on the next season of NXT. I don't know why there's going to be another season.

that...........that doesn't even make any sense..............

 

[Superark]

Yea. It certainly wasn't the most creative comeback, but Rock is bigger than Punk ever will be. Sayin' Rock has to resort to his "greatest hits", well yea, I mean his greatest hits is better than Punk's current hits.

Except maybe that promo from Monday. That was rockin', and as an individual promo, might be the best I've ever seen, and if not, it's definitely a top one.

But as a whole package, I'd still prefer to see a lot of people, past and present, over Punk.

Yup agreed on all accounts.

Yes, some truth. The Rock is one of the greatest entertainers in this business, no doubt. He helped make wrestling what it is today, pushed it to it's limits....and then he left, and that was cool. Unlike some others, I respected his decision. It made sense for him to do that.

And now he's back, and he's never ever going away....but he didn't come back the next week....etc., etc. As the weeks went on, he's not who he once was, nor are his promos as strong. If The Rock won't commit, then someone like Punk should be in the main event, because the company should be putting all their weight behind new stars and not old ones who says they're back but they aren't. At least, that's my view.

I'm not saying WWE shouldn't be getting behind Punk or any of their younger stars instead of Rock. WWE way too often books older talents of guys like Orton and Cena at the expense of their other talents.

I don't care if Rock left or didn't. He's earned that right and it's individual choice about what makes him happy.

But again, to reiterate what I already said, there is truth to what Rock said about being the bigger draw than Punk will likely ever be and if The Rock is coming back to have a match with John Cena, WWE's biggest star, it absolutely deserves to be the main event of Wrestlemania. Nothing else will be bigger than that in the eyes of the fans

 

[The Sage]

It's true, the Rock is a bigger draw than CM Punk.

But it's also true that Punk was never given a chance to be a draw. He's always had the talent, but everytime he gained momentum going to the top it was taken. After feuding Jeff Hardy he was on his way up, then he was fed to the Undertaker in a weak feud. His feud with Cena beginning of the year was another rising moment that was taken in place of Cena feuding with Miz, and look how that turned out at Wrestlemania.

They're doing now what they should've done months ago.

 

[Nell2ThaIzzay]

I also find it kinda funny the people saying that Punk v. Cena should have been the main event at Wrestlemania last year, but how could that have happened? Miz had the belt. If Cena faced Punk (which he probably should have but they killed that feud quick - but then again who would have faced Miz if Cena was busy with Punk? Plus the whole aspect of The Rock...), it would have been non-title, thus it wouldn't have been the main event.

And if it was, then it'd be even more hypocrisy, because the same people wanting Cena v. Punk to headline Wrestlemania last year are the same people who were ****ting on Triple H over the rumor that Triple H v. Undertaker was gonna be the main event, over a title match.

Either way, Punk wasn't coming close to a Wrestlemania main event last year.

 

[Superark]

It's true, the Rock is a bigger draw than CM Punk.

But it's also true that Punk was never given a chance to be a draw. He's always had the talent, but everytime he gained momentum going to the top it was taken. After feuding Jeff Hardy he was on his way up, then he was fed to the Undertaker in a weak feud. His feud with Cena beginning of the year was another rising moment that was taken in place of Cena feuding with Miz, and look how that turned out at Wrestlemania.

They're doing now what they should've done months ago.

This is also a very true point. I think Punk could be a great draw if given the chance, but I'm still not convinced he could be as big or bigger than The Rock. He just doesn't have that larger than life appeal. He's much more kin to a guy like Bret Hart (not a good draw in US, but major draw overseas) or Ric Flair. Can be a great draw and resonate with the wrestlin audience, but won't appeal to the that massive crowd who doesn't watch wrestling.

That's just my opinion. But we'll never know if Punk isn't given the chance.

 

[Benstamania]

This is all I have to say about the Rock...

 

[Nemi]

This is also a very true point. I think Punk could be a great draw if given the chance, but I'm still not convinced he could be as big or bigger than The Rock. He just doesn't have that larger than life appeal. He's much more kin to a guy like Bret Hart (not a good draw in US, but major draw overseas) or Ric Flair. Can be a great draw and resonate with the wrestlin audience, but won't appeal to the that massive crowd who doesn't watch wrestling.

That's just my opinion. But we'll never know if Punk isn't given the chance.

I agree with this, but can you imagine the gold if they put him up against the guy that does have that larger than life appeal that gets the massive crowd?

 

[The Sage]

I also find it kinda funny the people saying that Punk v. Cena should have been the main event at Wrestlemania last year, but how could that have happened? Miz had the belt. If Cena faced Punk (which he probably should have but they killed that feud quick - but then again who would have faced Miz if Cena was busy with Punk? Plus the whole aspect of The Rock...), it would have been non-title, thus it wouldn't have been the main event.

And if it was, then it'd be even more hypocrisy, because the same people wanting Cena v. Punk to headline Wrestlemania last year are the same people who were ****ting on Triple H over the rumor that Triple H v. Undertaker was gonna be the main event, over a title match.

Either way, Punk wasn't coming close to a Wrestlemania main event last year.

The Rock could've just hosted Mania with no interaction except a backstage segment at the show with Cena. Then they could've set up their beef afterwards and the match.

And if it needed to be a title bout, Miz could've lost in an Elimination Chamber match.

 

[Benstamania]

This may just be me... But I'd rather see Austin vs Punk in the main event over Rock/Cena.

 

[The Sage]

This is also a very true point. I think Punk could be a great draw if given the chance, but I'm still not convinced he could be as big or bigger than The Rock. He just doesn't have that larger than life appeal. He's much more kin to a guy like Bret Hart (not a good draw in US, but major draw overseas) or Ric Flair. Can be a great draw and resonate with the wrestlin audience, but won't appeal to the that massive crowd who doesn't watch wrestling.

That's just my opinion. But we'll never know if Punk isn't given the chance.

Or he could've been another Austin, who was a bigger draw than the Rock.

 

[Benstamania]

Or he could've been another Austin, who was a bigger draw than the Rock.

Word.

If they give Punk the ball and allow him to become an Austin like character he'll be able to draw in no time.

 

[Metallo]

The Rock could've just hosted Mania with no interaction except a backstage segment at the show with Cena. Then they could've set up their beef afterwards and the match.

And if it needed to be a title bout, Miz could've lost in an Elimination Chamber match.

Monday proved that Punk should have been in the main event of Wrestlemania...not Miz. Punk was more compelling Monday than Miz's entire career combined. Punk/Cena is already a hotter feud and if it had led into Mania it could have been ten times as hot.

Word.

If they give Punk the ball and allow him to become an Austin like character he'll be able to draw in no time.

Its the post Hogan era all over again. Instead of Vince FORCING a star he should let stars like Punk rise naturally. Punk's still an amazing talent despite WWE basically wasting him over the last couple of years. he should have been a top guy two years ago.

 

[spidey-dude]

This is all I have to say about the Rock...

see i dotn think the twilight jokes work as rock had team bring it long before the twilight crap.... if anything its the other way round