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The times can't be too different if Raiders and Last Crusade are still looked on as beloved classics rather than offensive.
...On the other hand, Hydra were a division of the Nazi's before RS severed the ties, so technically there were plenty of Nazi's in it and, it was a great film.
The SS in real life gots its orders independent of the command structure of the regular german army, it was a point of contention and resulted in a poor response to the Normandy landings. HYDRA seemed to be set up the same way and as the war continued to go downhill Skull went more rogue. I can imagine him using some units for regualr german ops while conserving forces for his own motives. I bet he sent Berlin a message stating that those three guys he killed were caught in an air raid. HYDRA had the nazi ideology. The nazi's were notorious for hijacking mythology and using it for their own propaganda purposes. Their interest in the norse mythology(during the occupation of Norway they constantly tried to subdue the people by talking about their shared lineage)was true. All of this is explained in Erskine's conversation with Steve. Skull completely bought into Hitler's ramblings about German destiny and norse mythology. Yes, these guys were nazis. I had no problem with it. I liked the costume's because of their retro futuristic pulpy look.
Sure he would. We used to call those atomic weapon projects.
Except red Skull promised a bunch of weapons right away, which is why Hitler sent those Nazis to check on up on him. Red Skull got a unlimited resources for a year, with almost no real progress reports or oversight from the Nazis. That doesn't sound like something Hitler would do.
The Gestapo was notoriously bad at police work and intelligence gathering, yet Adolph kept them around. He tended to give subordinates more leeway then you would excpect from a meglomaniac. Skull has bigger plans than the nazis, thats canon and was consistent in the movie. He wanted to be the "superior man". The ideology was consistent with the nazis. He became fixated on one peice of Hitler's dream. You have to be careful when using nazis in movies. Go overboard and you get "iron Sky".
I understood bringing in Hydra, as they would be better villains for future movies. I would've rather seen Hydras humble beginnings though, and like you said, have Red Skull be high ranking SS rather than all wrapped up completely in HYDRA.Sure he would. We used to call those atomic weapon projects.
I just didn't see the need for Hydra. Why not just have Red Skull be a high ranking Nazi commanding the SS like in the comics?