Playstation RUMOR: Sony to acquire Take Two if Microsoft is successful in the Activision deal

[Superhero 101]

Msft still has the European verdict and FTC case plus MSFt is already appealing so nothing for Sony to celebrate but I’m sure they r enjoying this little fumble

 

[psylockolussus]

Msft still has the European verdict and FTC case plus MSFt is already appealing so nothing for Sony to celebrate but I’m sure they r enjoying this little fumble

Isn't the FTC against the buyout of ActiVision | Blizzard + King?

Unless there's still some shocking twist here, I think this deal is dead.

Anyway, this is quite entertaining regardless what happens.

 

[Superhero 101]

I think the FTC will review it in courts and then make a decision but the FTC case is where we will get all the juicy facts from both msft and Sony

 

[Superhero 101]

Sony 'Not in Talks' with CD Projekt RED About an Acquisition

Even though its fake I wouldn't have mind Sony acquiring them. CD Project are great at storytelling.

 

[Iceman]

The dude who started the Take Two rumour always makes up ****. Even if anything he says one day happens to actually happen, it won’t be because he knew anything any more than a baby with a dartboard one day hitting the right mark would know.

 

[Wolvieboy17]

The dude who started the Take Two rumour always makes up ****. Even if anything he says one day happens to actually happen it won’t be because he knew anything any more than a baby with a dartboard one day hitting the right mark would know.

Yeah, not only is it very hard to believe but seems born out stupid console competitive spirit. I swear, so much of the console debates boils down to schoolyard arguments for me haha "My dad could beat up your Dad." "Yeah, well my dad just acquired Take Two and Activision Blizzard!"

 

[XtremelyBaneful]

Lawyers: Internal email proves Microsoft's Activision bid is designed to eliminate PlayStation

if this isn't enough proof that mS's end game with this sort of acquisition is to crush playstation out of existence (to hell with any competition business), then I don't know what it is.

I am looking forward to it because it could potentially change console wars/competition in the neXt several moves which is going to be interesting to watch.

But then why did you say earlier in the thread that you don't like that Sony is potentially losing CoD? That is a complete contradiction of what you are saying now.

I have no interest in getting a XboX but seeing how PlayStation tries to one up Microsoft could be really eXciting as a ps player, IF they played their cards right.

And yes Spider-Man 2 is coming out in September, but in almost 3 years of the ps5, that's the only 4th first party game coming from Sony I'm willing to pay for in this current generation. I feel like ideally, compare to the ps4 era, there should be more that would appeal to me. And I don't count the remakes/remasters of their ps4 games for the ps5.

I don't have much interest in buying an Xbox either, but if this deal falls through I feel like I won't have much of a choice if I want to continue being a console gamer the way I have been.

As for Spider-Man 2, yes I think I heard on some gaming news forum that a lot of people aren't even buying new Ps5 games, and it seems like the main reason for that is because of the $70 price tag. Long developmental cycles probably also don't help and I think that's why there hasn't been as much output as the 8th generation. Games are increasingly expensive and difficult to develop, I guess.

Sony Acquires AAA Multiplayer Developer Firewalk Studios - IGN

Never heard of them but I hope whatever they r working is good

I never heard of them either, but remember - that's just another studio, so small that a lot of people haven't even heard of it. Not at all comparable to buying a full on publisher

Is it too early for Sony to celebrate? Though I could see Microsoft going for another company if the ActiVision Blizzard buy out fails.

Yes, it is way too early for Sony to celebrate. CMA won't be able to gate keep the deal by themselves. The more organizations that approve, the more pressure there will be on them to bend to the appeal.

And yes, whether they are successful or unsuccessful here, mS is gonna continue to buy up as much as the industry as they can.

Msft still has the European verdict and FTC case plus MSFt is already appealing so nothing for Sony to celebrate but I’m sure they r enjoying this little fumble

All evidence is pointing towards the deal getting approved. CMA seems to be the only roadblock for mS.

Isn't the FTC against the buyout of ActiVision | Blizzard + King?

Unless there's still some shocking twist here, I think this deal is dead.

Anyway, this is quite entertaining regardless what happens.

boy, do I wish that was the case. but it seems more alive than ever. Apparently, mS wanted the FTC to put an intermittent block on the deal.

I think the FTC will review it in courts and then make a decision but the FTC case is where we will get all the juicy facts from both msft and Sony

Absolutely. The link I posted above was revealed after the FTC's attempted block

Sony 'Not in Talks' with CD Projekt RED About an Acquisition

Even though its fake I wouldn't have mind Sony acquiring them. CD Project are great at storytelling.

Witcher 3 is one of the greatest and best selling video games of all time, but it is not high enough of a caliber to be on the level of CoD. That's why in my opinion, it has to be GTA for Sony.

The dude who started the Take Two rumour always makes up ****. Even if anything he says one day happens to actually happen it won’t be because he knew anything any more than a baby with a dartboard one day hitting the right mark would know.

lmao! indeed, if anything the only credit he might have gotten is Sony catching him make this rumor and getting the idea from him.

Yeah, not only is it very hard to believe but seems born out stupid console competitive spirit. I swear, so much of the console debates boils down to schoolyard arguments for me haha "My dad could beat up your Dad." "Yeah, well my dad just acquired Take Two and Activision Blizzard!"

even according to this analogy, Xbox is the rich kid on the block while playstation is still the more popular kid (for now)

 

[psylockolussus]

Greed is a sin. But this is just the nature of the business world.

As for your comments to my posts, I am not in the mood to answer them all and go back to what I've said weeks or months ago.

I guess its miXed feelings for me. I don't care about Call of Duty and fps games. But I also don't want PlayStation to lose profit from Call of Duty sales because who knows what it will do to PlayStation and their studios. And at the same time, I want Sony to be more competitive even if Microsoft isn't acquiring Activision | Blizzard | King. And at the same time, this led to a lot of interesting reading in the internet, like lots of revelations and tidbits.

 

[Superhero 101]

I love COD have been playing ever since the OG game came out on the OG Xbox but since I prefer PS over Xbox and most of my COD games have been purchased on a PS console… I really would like for COD stay Multiplat instead of becoming an Xbox exclusive in the foreseeable future.

 

[XtremelyBaneful]

Greed is a sin. But this is just the nature of the business world.

Absolutely it is. But that's the point of these regulators, to keep these greedy businesses in check. And somehow, the vast majority of them are approving of one of if not the biggest company in the world, making their biggest acquisition ever which their competitor could either never do or would have a very hard time pulling off.

As for your comments to my posts, I am not in the mood to answer them all and go back to what I've said weeks or months ago.

well, you are not obligated to answer my comments at all. I was only asking because in the beginning I agreed with you 100% and then you took a 180, which would have to make me disagree with you 100% and I just wondered why the sudden change of heart.

I guess its miXed feelings for me. I don't care about Call of Duty and fps games. But I also don't want PlayStation to lose profit from Call of Duty sales because who knows what it will do to PlayStation and their studios. And at the same time, I want Sony to be more competitive even if Microsoft isn't acquiring Activision | Blizzard | King. And at the same time, this led to a lot of interesting reading in the internet, like lots of revelations and tidbits.

Sony is taking this very seriously. They literally said their business would never recover if this goes through.

Such a move would "seriously damage our reputation," Sony Interactive Entertainment CEO Jim Ryan told the CMA in a recent hearing. "Our gamers would desert our platform in droves and network effects would exacerbate the problem. Our business would never recover."

Sony worries Microsoft will only give it a “degraded” Call of Duty

I love COD have been playing ever since the OG game came out on the OG Xbox but since I prefer PS over Xbox and most of my COD games have been purchased on a PS console… I really would like for COD stay Multiplat instead of becoming an Xbox exclusive in the foreseeable future.

I've been playing CoD since the OG MW2 and mS said they will keep CoD on playstation for 10 years, but in that time they could sabotage the playstation versions of the games if they wanted to and after the 10th year they could take CoD off completely. And they will.

 

[darthcoolness3]

Absolutely it is. But that's the point of these regulators, to keep these greedy businesses in check. And somehow, the vast majority of them are approving of one of if not the biggest company in the world, making their biggest acquisition ever which their competitor could either never do or would have a very hard time pulling off.

well, you are not obligated to answer my comments at all. I was only asking because in the beginning I agreed with you 100% and then you took a 180, which would have to make me disagree with you 100% and I just wondered why the sudden change of heart.


Sony is taking this very seriously. They literally said their business would never recover if this goes through.

Sony worries Microsoft will only give it a “degraded” Call of Duty

I've been playing CoD since the OG MW2 and mS said they will keep CoD on playstation for 10 years, but in that time they could sabotage the playstation versions of the games if they wanted to and after the 10th year they could take CoD off completely. And they will.

To be fair, this is the same company that is making it harder for Spider-Man to be in the MCU, by making spin off movies of every Spider-Man villain. Who cares if Call Of Duty is Xbox and PC exclusive, Sony can just regain lost profit with 1 SpiderVerse movie, and their other Playstation exclusives.

 

[Wolvieboy17]

if this isn't enough proof that mS's end game with this sort of acquisition is to crush playstation out of existence (to hell with any competition business), then I don't know what it is.

I'm not sure how it proves anything, since the email is redacted. At most it would prove a single executive made a passing comment about beating playstation.... back in 2019, years before this acquisition was a twinkle in their corporate eye haha

even according to this analogy, Xbox is the rich kid on the block while playstation is still the more popular kid (for now)

To be clear, my issue is mostly people projecting these ideological personalities onto each company, depending on where their brand loyalty is. Both are companies with obviously corporate interests. But I find it unsettling how people barrack for a console like it's a football team.

Like to be clear, there is no underdog in this scenario haha.

 

[XtremelyBaneful]

To be fair, this is the same company that is making it harder for Spider-Man to be in the MCU, by making spin off movies of every Spider-Man villain.

true, but they are also that same company that makes arguably the best Spider-Man movies ever. I wouldn't say they are making Spider-Man the main superhero himself harder to be in the MCU, with the last deal they signed I don't think he'll ever be out of that franchise/main universe. but yeah, they really need to take a hint with their spinoff movies.

Who cares if Call Of Duty is Xbox and PC exclusive,

I do. I have been playing CoD for over 10 years and have been a playstation gamer for over 20 years and I don't want to be forced to buy an Xbox just to continue playing this game on a console. However, after this and last week's news, I think I will end up having to do just that.

It is not in my budget to buy an Xbox this year, but maybe in the next year or two to future proof myself on console gaming.

Sony can just regain lost profit with 1 SpiderVerse movie, and their other Playstation exclusives.

It isn't about losing profit. playstation is just one product of Sony, just like how Zune was one product of Microsoft's. what worries me about this deal isn't about Sony's survival, but playstation's.

I'm not sure how it proves anything, since the email is redacted. At most it would prove a single executive made a passing comment about beating playstation.... back in 2019, years before this acquisition was a twinkle in their corporate eye haha

even if most of the email was redacted and it is from several years ago, I think it proves what the company's intentions are. not that it matters, since the acquisition is officially approved.

To be clear, my issue is mostly people projecting these ideological personalities onto each company, depending on where their brand loyalty is. Both are companies with obviously corporate interests. But I find it unsettling how people barrack for a console like it's a football team.

Like to be clear, there is no underdog in this scenario haha.

yeah I get it man, you're talking about fanboyism. I'm all for corporate competition, but not in a way that's unfair to all of the players. Sony doesn't have mS money, they don't have the cash to do what mS just did with Activision. but that's what I personally have a problem with, is mS buying the market to gain marketshare. and again, if it was a portion of the market that they already had a close working relationship with, then I think it would be fair play. but it isn't; it is the biggest publisher and mS's biggest acquisition ever.

 

[Wolvieboy17]

yeah I get it man, you're talking about fanboyism. I'm all for corporate competition, but not in a way that's unfair to all of the players. Sony doesn't have mS money, they don't have the cash to do what mS just did with Activision. but that's what I personally have a problem with, is mS buying the market to gain marketshare. and again, if it was a portion of the market that they already had a close working relationship with, then I think it would be fair play. but it isn't; it is the biggest publisher and mS's biggest acquisition ever.

Look it's obviously a massive acquisition, but I still think there's an element of six of one, half dozen of the other. Sony has proven they're totally willing to spend extra on most of the bigger 3rd party titles to keep them exclusive and away from Xbox. What we don't know is how long they've been doing it for, how much they've been spending overall. Yes MS just bought a massive piece of video game real estate, but if we're talking about insidious corporate tactics, I thought many of the revealed emails and documents in the FTC case showed that MS's recent acquisitions were entirely reactionary to that practice of being blocked out of games (Particularly Bethesda, since it looked like PS were going to try and buy exclusivity on that anyway).

So my point isn't to diminish the scope of the MS deal but view it in context. It's worrying, yes, but it's also a response to years of pretty shonky business tactics too. I would've been equally worried about the trajectory of Sony WITHOUT competition tbh.

 

[XtremelyBaneful]

Look it's obviously a massive acquisition, but I still think there's an element of six of one, half dozen of the other. Sony has proven they're totally willing to spend extra on most of the bigger 3rd party titles to keep them exclusive and away from Xbox. What we don't know is how long they've been doing it for, how much they've been spending overall. Yes MS just bought a massive piece of video game real estate, but if we're talking about insidious corporate tactics, I thought many of the revealed emails and documents in the FTC case showed that MS's recent acquisitions were entirely reactionary to that practice of being blocked out of games (Particularly Bethesda, since it looked like PS were going to try and buy exclusivity on that anyway).

So my point isn't to diminish the scope of the MS deal but view it in context. It's worrying, yes, but it's also a response to years of pretty shonky business tactics too. I would've been equally worried about the trajectory of Sony WITHOUT competition tbh.

I think you have a pretty level headed stance on things. Sony's money hatting of games like FFS16 is fine to me, since a franchise like is mostly recognized as a playstation one and has had a long history of being exclusive to it. But starfield on the other hand? There was absolutely no need for Sony to go after exclusivity there. That is a brand new IP, and unless Bethesda was interested in developing it for one console platform, Sony should have attempted business ventures elsewhere. Chances are if Bethesda was never bought, Starfield as a multiplatform game could have sold best on Ps5 anyway.

I wasn't a fan of when mS paid for timed exclusivity of RoTR either, but since then they haven't really been trying that route - but they obviously have the cash to do so but they opted to instead make it so that NONE of Activision's games other than CoD ever see the light of day on Ps5.

The only thing Sony has the cash for is more desperate attempts at making 3rd party exclusive deals, but with all of the things about them that has leaked during this whole ordeal, I have a feeling publishers will be less inclined to work with them in the future. So Sony better get cracking on this thread premise and beg Take Two to be bought by them.

By the way, what do you mean by "shonky" in this context?

 

[Superhero 101]

Sony is gonna go after square enix first, Take Two is way too big for them but If msft wants to go for the jugular they should totally buy Take Two lol we all know After activision / blizzards merger they r pretty much untouchable, Microsoft has to already be planning their next acquisitions

 

[Mani-Man]

Sony is gonna go after square enix first, Take Two is way too big for them but If msft wants to go for the jugular they should totally buy Take Two lol we all know After activision / blizzards merger they r pretty much untouchable, Microsoft has to already be planning their next acquisitions

I dont know, isnt there some law against that?

MS will not buy anything that huge again for some years.
The Buy alone cost a lot of money, and then you have the additional costs, the delay etc...it will take a while till they make profit with this acquisition, so they wont really think a lot about another one i think.

Sony getting SE seems like a no brainer, but i rather want sony to focus on what they have and make their IPs a huge success instead of buying new IPs like MS does.
Especially seeing how little MS does with what they have bought in years.

 

[Wolvieboy17]

By the way, what do you mean by "shonky" in this context?

Oh this might be an aussie/british term that slipped in haha. But I guess slightly "suss" or a little dodgy.

 

[psylockolussus]

Its time for Sony Group Corporation to make their big purchase of the century!

 

[XtremelyBaneful]

Sony is gonna go after square enix first, Take Two is way too big for them but If msft wants to go for the jugular they should totally buy Take Two lol we all know After activision / blizzards merger they r pretty much untouchable, Microsoft has to already be planning their next acquisitions

the thought of mS having control of Take Two on top of Activision not only feels unfair, but just downright scary. Sony has to go after them first.

I said this before, but Sony should go after Square Enix, Bandai Namco, and Sega. Take Two needs to come first, though.

I dont know, isnt there some law against that?

MS will not buy anything that huge again for some years.
The Buy alone cost a lot of money, and then you have the additional costs, the delay etc...it will take a while till they make profit with this acquisition, so they wont really think a lot about another one i think.

Sony getting SE seems like a no brainer, but i rather want sony to focus on what they have and make their IPs a huge success instead of buying new IPs like MS does.
Especially seeing how little MS does with what they have bought in years.

the part of @Superhero 101 's post that you bolded was about mS planning their next acquisition, and I don't think there are any laws against that. but on top of that, I believe he's right. once this deal goes through, a year or two from now they'll plan their next one. A lot of people think it is going to be Sega, but I don't really get why. Did Sega ever have a close working relationship with mS?

Oh this might be an aussie/british term that slipped in haha. But I guess slightly "suss" or a little dodgy.

ohhhhhh, okay. you'll have to excuse my ignorant American ass

Its time for Sony Group Corporation to make their big purchase of the century!

once again, we are in 100% agreement! (I am assuming you are talking about Sony purchasing Take Two)

 

[psylockolussus]

Take 2, Capcom, Ubisoft, Square EniX, Konami or all of them.

 

[XtremelyBaneful]

Take 2, Capcom, Ubisoft, Square EniX, Konami or all of them.

-Take Two has to come first
-Square Enix is a no-brainer like @Mani-Man said
-I guess they could go after Konami and Capcom because MGS and DMC respectively have had playstation identity to them, but I don't care much for them personally
-mS can have Ubisoft. I don't think they've made any IPs that have a close playstation association

 

[psylockolussus]

I play a lot of Assassin's Creed, so them going to Microsoft would be a loss to me.

 

[Superhero 101]

Meh in feel like COD Assassins NBA 2k and FIFA games all land in the same category… same product with a dash of new features

 

[psylockolussus]

Meh in feel like COD Assassins NBA 2k and FIFA games all land in the same category… same product with a dash of new features

With Assassin's Creed, you get to visit a different country and time period in every new game and just free roam the open world if you want to. To me thats very appealing. And there aren't any other franchise doing that if I'm not mistaken.

Call of Duty, Just Dance, NBA 2K, WWE 2K, MLB The Show, most sports game/fps franchise - every game in the series look the same, the newer games just get a better coating.