Decades of Sexual Harassment Accusations Against Harvey Weinstein - Part 4

[Asgard]

Im awaiting the news about Dan Schneider being a child abuser to be leaked soon.

 

[TheCommissioner]

Im awaiting the news about Dan Schneider being a child abuser to be leaked soon.

if the strong rumors and even the not so strong ones are true, tis probably coming down soon

 

[Elayis]

Apparently Grace Park was also part of the NXIVM cult. I'm not sure how trustworthy this site is (just google frankreport, can't post links due to language), but it alleges that she attempted to get videos taken down of her being "hypnotized" by founder Keith Raniere, just shortly before the NYT article was published. She must've known something was in the wind.

The videos themselves have since been taken down (not sure when), but there are still screenshots from them and they seem legit.

I wonder how crazy this whole thing is going to get in the coming months, how far it goes. Or maybe it'll all get swept under the rug because of other things in the news, and presumably the desire for all parties involved to keep this as quiet as possible.

This whole story still seems preposterous, like some awful fan-fic. It's weird to think that people can come across so intelligently onscreen, be involved in these high scale productions that exposes them to hundreds, perhaps thousands of reporters and fans, and yet still remain sheltered and susceptible to this kind of persuasion and brainwashing. I just checked out Nicki Clyne's twitter and even as recent as a few days ago her tweets come off as cogent and normal. Perhaps it's not really her making those tweets, or maybe she's just able to compartmentalize certain aspects of her life and still function as if she wasn't part of a cult.

It'll be strange what watching Battlestar again knowing all of this now.

 

[KRYPTON INC.]

Just read up about this. Just an interesting look at sexual harassment from a century ago.

https://www.smithsonianmag.com/hist...-couldnt-handle-20th-century-woman-180951219/


http://www.auswhn.org.au/blog/hatpin-panic/


https://imgur.com/gallery/RghbX


Not saying "bring back the hapin" at all just an interesting look at how this issue has been with us and been debated for a long time now.

 

[chamber-music]

Celebrities are people just like the rest of us. Just like everyone else famous people have their own insecurities and other issues that leave them susceptible to manipulation.

 

[DeadPresident]

They seem like they'd be even more susceptible because of the bizarrely unhealthy environment celebrity life puts them in. They live in these isolated little bubbles where they're treated like royalty and come into contact with all kinds of weird people, it's probably really easy to lose perspective.

 

[Black Narcissus]

https://www.thedailybeast.com/are-any-of-these-hollywood-superpredators-going-to-jail

 

[terry78]

"Reviewing cases" is code for, they ain't going to prison.

 

[chamber-music]

Too rich and powerful for jail. The only justice is that they have been exposed.

 

[KRYPTON INC.]

This is literally a... Uh... case by case thing. Some of these are unfortunately from very long ago. Others there's just no compelling evidence outside of the alleged victim's testimony.

Sad to say, but for many of these cases it was never in the cards to successfully prosecute these powerful movers and shakers.

 

[Teelie]

Unfortunately that is the way it works. Unless there is some evidence of guilt you can't just jail people on a claim. That is not to say the way things work now is right but there is nothing to be done without proof.

The other major problem is the discouragement from reporting crimes right after they happen. That at least is more managable. Society needs to wake up and encourage reporting this, not trying to sweep it under a rug and wait potentially decades after the fact to come out and report them.

 

[Teelie]

This is sort of a cross post with abuse of power, though more appropriately in this case, lack of enforcement of power. We also get the obligatory "boys will be boys" dismissal and that it happens all over the country so therefore there is no real need to maybe buck the trend and actively stop these boys from assaulting one another.

All of this has apparently been going on for at least several years, was clearly known to the coaches and higher ups in the school and exactly zero punishment or accountability performed until it became public.

Report alleges ongoing 'rape game' among male students at Richland 44 School District

COLFAX, N.D. — Disturbing details of sodomy and sexual assault dating back to 2015 in the Richland 44 School District are described in an independent report that says school leaders failed to sufficiently respond to allegations of student hazing and sexual misconduct.

The district hired a Minneapolis law firm, Langevin Lentz, to investigate the matter and compile the findings in a report, which The Forum obtained Friday, April 6, through a public records request.

In the 46-page report, superintendent Tim Godfrey, high school principal Bruce Anderson and athletic director John Freeman — whose departures from the district were announced this week — claim to have not known before Jan. 17 that variations of something called the "rape game" had been occurring for years.

It was on Jan. 17 that two parents confronted Godfrey about the "rape game," one stating that their child came home with "holes in his underwear." The report also says at least two incidents of sexual misconduct were reported to Anderson and a coach but were not investigated.

Attempts to reach Godfrey, Anderson and Freeman by phone Friday were unsuccessful. Godfrey will resign and Anderson will retire at the end of the school year. Freeman is no longer with the district, and the terms of his departure have not been disclosed.

The report says hazing and sexual misconduct took place in locker rooms, on field trips and during physical education class and musical rehearsals. The report also says district policies on hazing and bullying are not accessible or easily understood and that staff training on these policies is insufficient.

The law firm's review focused on events before Jan. 24, the date when news media began reporting on the misconduct investigation led by the Richland County Sheriff's Office.

The investigation resulted in five male students collectively facing 13 misdemeanor counts of hazing, 11 misdemeanor counts of sexual assault, nine felony counts of felonious restraint and one felony count of terrorizing. The boys charged were referred to juvenile court. All of the victims were male, authorities said.

In addition to law enforcement investigating the allegations, Langevin Lentz conducted 56 interviews with school board members, administrators, teachers, coaches and parents.

"Some commented that 'boys will be boys'.... And others commented that 'this kind of stuff' is common and 'happens all over the country,'" the report states. "But no one we spoke to said or suggested that physical restraint, sexual assault, or unwanted touching is acceptable."

One student athlete considered transferring schools after he reported last spring being held down by his teammates who then stuck their fingers in his butt. The student's parent shared this with an assistant coach who didn't raise the issue with the athletic director, principal or superintendent, according to the report.

Another student reported "screaming" when being "trapped, chased and caught and assaulted" by other students on multiple occasions during fall 2017 musical rehearsals.

Two parents reported that their children were restrained and poked in the butt through their clothes while staying in a hotel room during a field trip this school year. One instance involved using a toothbrush, according to the report.

A parent reported to Anderson in fall 2017 concerns about inappropriate locker room behavior involving male middle school students after physical education class. The parent said students were poking each other in the butt. Anderson spoke with the teacher and students, but the report says the school should have investigated further.

'Knock this off'

One assistant coach told the law firm that several years ago when he was a student athlete at Richland 44, another student athlete began something called "the rape game."

Descriptions of this so-called "game" vary, but involve turning off the lights, typically in a locker room, running around and trying to stick fingers up others' butts or poking them in the butt through clothes with fingers or objects.

Others described the "rape game" as sexual assault, sodomy or sexual harassment. The report says "there is not a consistent understanding of what the 'rape game' is, what behavior occurred or even what behavior has been reported." But variations of the "rape game" have been occuring at the school since the 2015-2016 school year.

On Jan. 18, the day after two parents confronted Godfrey about the "rape game," Godfrey, Anderson and Freeman met with male student athletes. Godfrey said in the meeting that such conduct could be sexual harassment and that it was unacceptable. Godfrey recalls Freeman saying, "I told you to knock this off," and Anderson said Godfrey told the boys "we've been through this before."

Freeman told the boys if the behavior continued, "offenders would be unable to play basketball for the rest of the season," the report states.
The report says it is undisputed that parents were not informed of the Jan. 18 meeting. Several parents demanded a meeting with Godfrey on Jan. 19, when there was a basketball game scheduled later that evening. Godfrey, Anderson and Freeman met with parents to talk about the "rape game." Godfrey told parents law enforcement was getting involved and that he didn't know the extent of the problem.

"Some of the parents at the meeting were very emotional and expressed anger at the alleged perpetrators and at school officials. One parent said if he found out that someone had done this to his child, he ... was willing to 'go to jail.'"

According to the report, Godfrey said there would be supervision in the locker rooms to address the situation. However, at the Jan. 19 game, junior varsity players were in the locker room unsupervised, the report states.
"A number of parents reported their deep disappointment at the failure of the superintendent, principal, athletic director and coaches to provide locker room supervision that the parents believed they have been promised," the report states.

Community impact

The law firm's report noted that the lack of supervision and security in locker rooms as well as clear communication between the district and parents "greatly affected everyone involved and significantly impacted the community."

Lack of communication was the result of several factors, including some teachers' and parents' pre-existing lack of confidence in Godfrey, students' reluctance to talk about sensitive matters and intense emotional reactions from all concerned, according to the report.

The report says district business is regularly conducted on personal electronic devices and personal social media accounts, which the law firm says is not best practice. The app GroupMe was used for communication between coaches and players and was a source of concern for many parents.

At some point after parents complained Jan. 17, Godfrey instructed Freeman to "shut down" or "delete" the app, and Freeman's attempts to do so resulted in deleting all prior posts, the report says. The lack of evidence was an issue during the independent review, but parents did provide the law firm with screenshots of some communication revealing sexual references and hazing.

An exchange on the app with sexual or hazing references was seen by at least one coach and the athletic director who allegedly "did not object or attempt to control student communication on the app," the report states.
On Friday, School Board President Lisa Amundson told The Forum the board is very concerned about the contents of the report and will continue to review and address the issues.

"Throughout this report there are indicators that suggest our entire Richland 44 community must take a collective look at the culture in our junior/senior high school," Amundson wrote in a letter. "Our children are watching and waiting for us to set the example and show them the way forward from these past few months. We do not intend to let them down."

Inforum

 

[terry78]

Rape game? These ****ing kids are on some Cruel Intentions ****.

 

[Spider-Fan]

The adults who ignored this need persecuted to the fullest extent of the law, and these kids that continually did this I think should be tried as adults. Sorry, but any moron should know forcefully creating rape scenarios is wrong, and if they don't...then I don't want them around in my society.

 

[DeadPresident]

How the **** is "knock it off" the correct admonishment in that scenario? They do need to be prosecuted.

 

[KRYPTON INC.]

Remember... Any talk that there is a "rape culture" is just SJW hyperbole.

Uh... huh...

 

[TheCommissioner]

Kaylee Lorincz calls out settlement offer by now interim MSU president Engler

One of the biggest surprises during the meeting came during the public comment period, when one of Nassar's victims - Kaylee Lorincz - said Engler offered her a $250,000 settlement during an impromptu meeting on March 28 at MSU.

Lorincz said she asked to meet with Engler to talk about "healing" and rebuilding trust at MSU in wake of the Nassar scandal. But to her surprise, Engler shifted the conversation to what it would take to settle the civil lawsuit that she and other Nassar victims have filed against the university in federal court.

"He looked directly at me and asked, 'right now if I wrote you a check for $250,000 would you take it?'" Lorincz recalled, adding that in addition to Engler, the meeting was attended by Vice President and Special Counsel to the President Carol Viventi.

 

[Sithborg]

Yeah, Engler was a terrible choice. I was hesitant about his nomination, mainly because I don't trust Snyder.

Of course, expecting anyone to come down hard on MSU itself in an elections year is a pipe dream.

You know you have issues when Penn State handles their sex abuse scandal better.

 

[Marvolo]

This is sort of a cross post with abuse of power, though more appropriately in this case, lack of enforcement of power. We also get the obligatory "boys will be boys" dismissal and that it happens all over the country so therefore there is no real need to maybe buck the trend and actively stop these boys from assaulting one another.

All of this has apparently been going on for at least several years, was clearly known to the coaches and higher ups in the school and exactly zero punishment or accountability performed until it became public.

Report alleges ongoing 'rape game' among male students at Richland 44 School District

Inforum

If I was a parent of one of the victims I'd definitely "knock it off" and by that I mean I'd knock the heads off of those sadistic perverted little ****s.

They are old enough to know that forcefully sodomizing others is wrong. Being treated as juveniles is entirely too lenient.

 

[BestGirl]

We have had way too many sexual abuse scandals at schools. The administrators who have looked the other way at this **** need to start doing some serious prison time.

 

[DeadPresident]

If I was a parent of one of the victims I'd definitely "knock it off" and by that I mean I'd knock the heads off of those sadistic perverted little ****s.

They are old enough to know that forcefully sodomizing others is wrong. Being treated as juveniles is entirely too lenient.

I'm actually surprised it isn't a bigger scandal. I mean it's basically prison behavior knowingly being perpetuated in a school environment, where I'm pretty sure teachers and administrators are constitutionally obliged to create a safe environment.

Honestly mind-boggling that this kind of **** can happen.

 

[Black Narcissus]

Anyone else feel like the equal pay should not count in Hollywood? Unless you are two of the biggest names together in one film, it seems fair to me for one actor to get more than the other. Shrugs.

If one less unknown actor has the same screen time as a Jlaw or Jessica Chastain on the same movie, is it fair for that actor to get paid equally as them? Eh, I think not.

Should Brad Pitt and Leo DIcaprio get paid more than Jessica Chastain on the same movie? Yes. Absolutely.

 

[terry78]

I feel like when it comes to that it's case by case. If you got like two extras and one is male and one is female then they should be paid the same. If you got like Meryl Streep acting alongside ****ing, I don't know.....Seth Rogen then yeah she should get the bigger check.

 

[Donner]

Who decides who the bigger star is? How is that quantified?

 

[Sithborg]

Agents.