ZeroCorpse
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Here's where I come in to point out that the movies are not the comics, and are more like a separate Marvel Universe. I like to refer to the Marvel Studios Universe as the "323" Universe (ala "616", but using the Hollywood area code as the number). Keep in mind that the 323 universe is different from the Sony Pictures Marvel Universe(s), and the individual TV show universes.
Anyway, they are inspired by the comics, but they don't need to be slavish to the story progression because they're in a different universe. No need to worry about where story elements came from, or how close they were. It's nice they use the comics as a template, but some changes are necessary for a movie. Iron Man did a great job of being loyal to comics, yet still being unique.
The "323" Universe is a lot like the Marvel Ultimate Alliance universe (the videogame). It's a combination of elements from both Ultimate Marvel and 616 Marvel. Thus we have Ultimate Nick Fury, but Tony Stark seems to be an updated version of the 616 Tony Stark (and he's not as much like the Ultimate version as I'd thought he'd be). The conflict of choice isn't Viet Nam, or World War II, but the wars in the Middle East. The armor goes through three designs before Tony outs himself as Iron Man.
It's all just little changes to make it flow better and compact many years of storytelling into one movie. Most films screw this up, but Iron Man nailed it.
Once Marvel Studios adds more movies to their list, we'll have a full-on Marvel Universe on the movies for the first time ever. I think that's rather awesome. The only trouble is getting actors to reprise their roles--- but even that's not a huge problem. Having a new actor for a character is kind of like when an artist takes over a comic and draws the characters WAYYY different than they were previously portrayed (Just recently, I noticed such a change with Moonstar in Avengers The Initiative; She had huge boobs. Danielle has ALWAYS been drawn almost flat-chested and she even talked about it on several occasions. I'd equate this radical change to getting a new "actress" to play the role of Moonstar in the comic.)
Anyway, my point is that when I go to see Marvel Studios movies, I don't want to see the 616 or Ultimate universes related EXACTLY as they are in the comics. I want a NEW story that just happens to focus on these characters. There's room in the multiverse for the movie Iron Man, Ultimate Iron Man, and 616 Iron Man.
I will say this, though: The movie Iron Man isn't near as much of a jerk as the 616 version. I think he acts more like the Ultimate Iron Man, but has origins closer to the 616 version.
Anyway, they are inspired by the comics, but they don't need to be slavish to the story progression because they're in a different universe. No need to worry about where story elements came from, or how close they were. It's nice they use the comics as a template, but some changes are necessary for a movie. Iron Man did a great job of being loyal to comics, yet still being unique.
The "323" Universe is a lot like the Marvel Ultimate Alliance universe (the videogame). It's a combination of elements from both Ultimate Marvel and 616 Marvel. Thus we have Ultimate Nick Fury, but Tony Stark seems to be an updated version of the 616 Tony Stark (and he's not as much like the Ultimate version as I'd thought he'd be). The conflict of choice isn't Viet Nam, or World War II, but the wars in the Middle East. The armor goes through three designs before Tony outs himself as Iron Man.
It's all just little changes to make it flow better and compact many years of storytelling into one movie. Most films screw this up, but Iron Man nailed it.
Once Marvel Studios adds more movies to their list, we'll have a full-on Marvel Universe on the movies for the first time ever. I think that's rather awesome. The only trouble is getting actors to reprise their roles--- but even that's not a huge problem. Having a new actor for a character is kind of like when an artist takes over a comic and draws the characters WAYYY different than they were previously portrayed (Just recently, I noticed such a change with Moonstar in Avengers The Initiative; She had huge boobs. Danielle has ALWAYS been drawn almost flat-chested and she even talked about it on several occasions. I'd equate this radical change to getting a new "actress" to play the role of Moonstar in the comic.)
Anyway, my point is that when I go to see Marvel Studios movies, I don't want to see the 616 or Ultimate universes related EXACTLY as they are in the comics. I want a NEW story that just happens to focus on these characters. There's room in the multiverse for the movie Iron Man, Ultimate Iron Man, and 616 Iron Man.
I will say this, though: The movie Iron Man isn't near as much of a jerk as the 616 version. I think he acts more like the Ultimate Iron Man, but has origins closer to the 616 version.