When Does the Comic Book TV/Movie Bubble Burst?

[Kahran Ramsus]

If that's what he meant, then you're correct.

It is possible that I misunderstood, but that's how I read his post.

 

[Silvermoth]

Superhero movies are already divisifying and branching out to different genres; TWS is like a political thriller, DOFP is time traveling with a post apocalyptic future sci fi, and GOTG is renegades from outer space. Only TASM 2 seems to be a pure comic book movie. As long the quality is kept high and we have movies like TDK and TWS out every once in awhile to raise the bar, I can see this genre keep going for a long time.

Yep, this is pretty much the truth.

I mean, some westerns are good but let's be honest it's the same story, set in the same places without much genre diversity. Comic book films aren't like that

 

[KevanG]

I can't really think of any other types of movies that already have such a massive and continuing fanbase going back forty years or more. That alone will guarantee a decent showing for CBMs for quite some time. I can't see it dying off completely like Westerns did but after some time I can see it dying down to a smaller amount yearly but continuing. Even if they do die off to an extent they an always release smaller budgeted movies as one shots but tying into the already created CBM universe, like releasing a Black Widow movie that has tenuous ties to the MCU or a Catwoman movie that actually has something to do with DC.

 

[DA_Champion]

Not surprised that this forum is uniformly optimistic, lol.

 

[KevanG]

That's the thing. Like I posted before unlike many other movies that came out this type has a built in fan base with decades of history behind it so it's not like Hunger Games that comes out and goes big then dies down in a few years after all the movies are done. It'll keep going with the comics even after the fervor dies down and later on it can get back up. Look at Star Trek, it died down after the original series went into reruns and the fanbase kept it going until a movie was made and it's kept going from there. Between the fan base and the fact they're making a variety of movies that have a cohesive universe of stories to choose from, even if it does slow down they can pick and choose a variety of things to take from it and put it in any number of various things, movies, netflix shows, ect.

 

[Laderlappen]

it's the same story, set in the same places without much genre diversity. Comic book films aren't like that

...you're serious?

 

[dark_b]

i think he is serious.

 

[DA_Champion]

I think there may be some confusion as to what a bursting bubble means. It doesn't necessarily mean that comic book production will drop off to zero as it has for Seagal / Van Damme type movies, though that's a possibility.

A bursting bubble means a significant drop in production following an exponential rise. We have an exponential rise right now, it can't keep increasing exponentially forever, and it's unlikely to neatly and smoothly level off at an equilibrium.

The most likely scenario is overshooting above whatever the equilibrium production rate is (not sure what that might be), then falling below for some time.

Americans still bought homes in 2008.

 

[Kahran Ramsus]

In that case I think there will be a decline after two things happen.

1. A Justice League movie.
2. RDJ/Chris Evans/Chris Hemsworth all move on from the MCU.

It isn't going to crash like the housing market crashed, but it will be lesser than it is now.

 

[Erzengel]

Nolan's Batman was a refreshing change from Schumacher Batman.

Personally, why I can't motivate to see ASM 2 is, I'm not really interested in the restart. I think the reason why the Avengers movies, I can't get enough of is it's an entire universe, with TV series and DVD/Blu-Ray One Shots that it feels like you're watching a long series instead of wait a few years than a reboot.

 

[samsnee]

As long as they try different settings and mixing different genres to keep it fresh, then there will be a demand.

The last movie was bubble were all those torture porn horror movies like Saw/Hostel/etc, but eventually people got tired of it because they're all the same.

If CBM's go beyond the traditional "hero gets powers" in the origin, "hero wants to give up powers" in the sequel", and "third movie is a clusterfudge" structure, then it can last.

 

[terry78]

That's pretty much the standard trilogy template, and they won't **** with that.

 

[metaphysician]

Yeah, but insofar as those formula elements are fixed, they are just as fixed for all other blockbusters. So its not really a flaw that will make superhero films suffer.

 

[amazingfantasy15]

That's pretty much the standard trilogy template, and they won't **** with that.

Yeah, but every MCU franchise is bucking this trend, none of the second movies has there been the I want to give up my powers theme. The third Iron Man, while controversial wasn't too much of a mess, the story was pretty tight.

 

[DA_Champion]

Yeah, but every MCU franchise is bucking this trend, none of the second movies has there been the I want to give up my powers theme. The third Iron Man, while controversial wasn't too much of a mess, the story was pretty tight.

It was about the hero wanting to give up the power.

 

[Supernova]

I feel like the bubble bursted for some after the avengers and dark knight rises. Most friends I talk to were all about the avengers phase 1 and dark knight trilogy and now they feel like the superhero movies are a chore of sorts to see them. You certainly can call that a fan being burnt out but there are people clearly winding on the genre despite comic book movies branching out into different styles of film making.

 

[terry78]

I feel MCU basically won't be doing trilogies. There will be sequels, and they may be a few years apart, or even more. Just an ongoing universe as it should be.

 

[samsnee]

I feel like the bubble bursted for some after the avengers and dark knight rises. Most friends I talk to were all about the avengers phase 1 and dark knight trilogy and now they feel like the superhero movies are a chore of sorts to see them. You certainly can call that a fan being burnt out but there are people clearly winding on the genre despite comic book movies branching out into different styles of film making.

I can see that. While the MCU is great for comic fans, general audience may feel like if they don't see certain movies first, they won't be able to follow later movies.

It's like a tv show that's been on a few years. After awhile, it stops picking up new fans.

 

[TheDreamMaster]

I feel MCU basically won't be doing trilogies. There will be sequels, and they may be a few years apart, or even more. Just an ongoing universe as it should be.

What makes you say that? For what it's worth, they've already announced Cap 3 and we had Iron Man 3. It seems too Cap may continue further given Sebastian Stan may take the role potentially after Avengers 3. I'd certainly bank on a Thor 3 after the cliffhanger ending.
Beyond that, maybe not. But it depends how much they intend to push the original heroes, going the bond route and using a continuous universe but recasting ever few years.

 

[Black Narcissus]

I can't wait to watch another reboot of SpiderMan in 5 years.

 

[mace1]

Yep, this is pretty much the truth.

I mean, some westerns are good but let's be honest it's the same story, set in the same places without much genre diversity. Comic book films aren't like that

True.
In superhero movies you could have and have more varied stories then any other.

You could have sci-fi,robots,romance,comedy,action,star wars like action,a spy thriller etc.. etc..
Comic stories or superhero stories are really the most diverse stories out there.

 

[Hammer!]

Like rap, everyone thinks it's just a fad, but it's here to stay.

 

[Human Torch]

Like rap, everyone thinks it's just a fad, but it's here to stay.

 

[Black Narcissus]

Like rap, everyone thinks it's just a fad, but it's here to stay.

Rap these days ain't as good.

 

[Hulk1968]

Everyone seems to forget the upcoming Tom Cruise movie "Edge of Tomorrow" which is based upon All You Need Is Kill which is a Japanese military science-fiction light novel by Hiroshi Sakurazaka with illustrations by Yoshi-toshi ABe.

The novel was Sakurazaka's breakthrough science-fiction novel, earning wide praise from fellow novelists including Yasutaka Tsutsui and Chōhei Kanbayashi and was entered in contention for the Seiun Awards, Japan's counterpart to the Nebula Award. The book is published in Japanese by Shueisha under their Super Dash Bunko imprint and in English by Viz Media under their Haikasoru imprint.

From Wikipedia

Plot

The story is told from the perspective of Keiji Kiriya, a new recruit in the United Defense Force which fights against the mysterious 'Mimics' which have laid siege to Earth. Keiji is killed on his first sortie, but through some inexplicable phenomenon wakes up having returned to the day before the battle. This retraversal continues and he now finds himself caught in a time loop as his death and resurrection repeats time and time again. Keiji's skill as a soldier grows as he passes through each time loop in a desperate attempt to change his fate.
Characters

Keiji Kiriya (キリヤ・ケイジ Kiriya Keiji?)
A new recruit in the United Defense Force. He finds himself caught in a time loop where he wakes up one day in the past after having been killed on the battlefield. Through the training and battles he experiences in these loops he comes into his own as a soldier.

Rita Vrataski (リタ・ヴラタスキ?)
A U.S. special forces soldier. Highly decorated and peerless in battle, she is seen as a hero by the entire world and known as the "Full Metal "Female Dog" to other soldiers.

Shasta Raylle (シャスタ・レイル?)
Rita's mechanic, a bespectacled woman who collects Gashapon. (small, high quality toys encased in plastic 'capsules')

Ferrell Bartolome (バルトロメ・フェレウ?)
Keiji's platoon sergeant. An overly fitness-conscious man who takes care of his subordinates.

Rachel Kisaragi
A well-endowed canteen lady, known to have good rapport among the soldiers for her good cooking and looks.

Film adaptation

In April 2010, Warner Bros. announced a film adaptation of All You Need Is Kill for 2012.[1] Originally Brad Pitt was approached to play the lead, but he had conflicts with other films for which Warner Bros. wanted him.[2] In October 2011, Tom Cruise and Emily Blunt began talks for the project to be directed by Doug Liman. [3][4][5] In September 2012, Bill Paxton was in discussions to play the sergeant of Tom Cruise's character. [6] It was announced on July 15, 2013 that the title of the film had been changed to Edge of Tomorrow. [7] It is scheduled to be released on June 6, 2014.[8]

Manga adaptation

A manga adaptation of All You Need Is Kill with art by Takeshi Obata, storyboards by Ryōsuke Takeuchi, and character designs by Yoshi-toshi ABe began serialization in Japanese in Weekly Young Jump and English in Weekly Shonen Jump in January 2014.

Looks like it's being adapted into a manga, after all. (comic book)