Apocalypse X-Men Apocalypse News and Discussion - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Part 27

[DigificWriter]

But singer isn't? Riiiiiight

Singer was identifying things as continuity errors that aren't/weren't actually continuity errors within the context of the X-Verse's established narrative mythology.

 

[xrs13]

As for the danger room I would like to see it in this film but I don't know if I would prefer the simple gymnasium type thing with maybe one or two swinging obstacles or whether I want full blown holograms maybe featuring a sentinel orrrrr I dunno

 

[Danbito]

Prior to DoFP, Xavier walking in Origins: Wolverine could've been considered a legitimate continuity error, but no longer is since it was explained/justified by DoFP itself.



No, because that's not how schooling in the HP universe works.

Except Xavier was clearly using his powers in Origins, which goes against DOFP that if he takes the spinal treatment he loses his powers

 

[spideyboy_1111]

Oh my god I swear continuity conversations are like a sure fire way to ruin all other talk of this film on this board. Singer has admitted to some inconsistencies but also pretty much said he will do what he wants to tell the best story. One thing I can say I hate about the MCU is that it seems to have set a precedent that all films must have 100% accuracy from one to another and if they don't there must be an explanation for it. I actually miss the days of the original X-men trilogy where you just looked forward to the next film because you were getting one rather than this thing we have now where each film has to fit into the one before perfectly.

There is a thread for continuity discussion. Take it there and let us talk about the actual news that is coming out for this film in here. Talk about make a simple fun new trailer secondary to conversation that has been beaten into the ground.

to be fair.. that's pretty standard for a franchise with a continuing story... so it's not wrong for people to expect that..

 

[spideyboy_1111]

Singer was identifying things as continuity errors that aren't/weren't actually continuity errors within the context of the X-Verse's established narrative mythology.

that's not fact.. that's just your opinion

 

[YoungBlood]

to be fair.. that's pretty standard for a franchise with a continuing story... so it's not wrong for people to expect that..

You mean like with Mandarin and that all hail the king bull crap they showed?

 

[CyclopsWasRight]

Here's an example of an actual continuity error (not from X-Men): Marcus Flint, Slytherin Quidditch captain, being described as a Seventh Year in Chamber of Secrets and yet remaining at school in Prisoner of Azkaban.

Retcons and clearly unconnected characters sharing names or characteristics are not examples of continuity errors, even if they're misidentified as such.

Correct

 

[spideyboy_1111]

As for the danger room I would like to see it in this film but I don't know if I would prefer the simple gymnasium type thing with maybe one or two swinging obstacles or whether I want full blown holograms maybe featuring a sentinel orrrrr I dunno

well with the way the sub-basement looks, the jet, and cerebro.. there's no way the Danger Room would be a simple gym... they already have technology decades beyond what they should be capable of

 

[xrs13]

By simple I mean more of like moving walls and obstacles than holograms and lasers

 

[spideyboy_1111]

You mean like with Mandarin and that all hail the king bull crap they showed?

that's a retcon basically. not a plot hole or a continuity error. They just made a short film basically saying there's an actual "real" mandarin out there.. it didn't conflict with anything in IM3

 

[Link]

to be fair.. that's pretty standard for a franchise with a continuing story... so it's not wrong for people to expect that..

For me, continuity is pretty important, but I dont think either Fox or MCU has nailed it. With Fox the problem is obviously the fact that there are several continuity errors and dumb things that need convoluted explanations. The problem with MCU is however how much they care about things that are coming. AoU was absolutely ruined by the fact that everyone knew Ultron wouldn’t be a real threat, because the actual danger that is coming was already teased several times. It kind of feels the same with Civil War, it's just another prelude for Infinity War. That's what the series have been for the most part, every movie is a prelude for something that's about to come. That's what I loved about DOFP, it was an old fashioned contained story, that didn't really set anything in motion for Apocalypse. The threat was there and it was severe. And don't get me wrong, I love many MCU movies as much as I love the X-Men films, but it's a real complaint for me.

 

[def28]

Civil War is gonna have far more heavy consequences. Many are not walking out of that one and directly into Infinite War unaffected, or at all.

CW also has nothing to do with the galaxy side of things so I'm not sure why that seems like a prelude in any way.

 

[BeholdMe]

I would love to see the Danger Room shown properly ami think this would be an awesome idea. I'm loving Mystiques new outfit though.

 

[BoredGuy]

For me, continuity is pretty important, but I dont think either Fox or MCU has nailed it. With Fox the problem is obviously the fact that there are several continuity errors and dumb things that need convoluted explanations. The problem with MCU is however how much they care about things that are coming. AoU was absolutely ruined by the fact that everyone knew Ultron wouldn’t be a real threat, because the actual danger that is coming was already teased several times. It kind of feels the same with Civil War, it's just another prelude for Infinity War. That's what the series have been for the most part, every movie is a prelude for something that's about to come. That's what I loved about DOFP, it was an old fashioned contained story, that didn't really set anything in motion for Apocalypse. The threat was there and it was severe. And don't get me wrong, I love many MCU movies as much as I love the X-Men films, but it's a real complaint for me.

That comes down to scheduling movies out ahead of time, not continuity errors. If Marvel went the Fox route and just said "untitled marvel movie" set for whatever date, they could easily avoid most of those issues you mentioned. But then fans (myself included) would b*tch because "I must know what they're working on!!" Fox on the other hand, by not announcing things, avoids undercutting the stakes, but it also makes them look nervous about the property, like they're convinced each film might fail.

 

[spideyboy_1111]

For me, continuity is pretty important, but I dont think either Fox or MCU has nailed it. With Fox the problem is obviously the fact that there are several continuity errors and dumb things that need convoluted explanations. The problem with MCU is however how much they care about things that are coming. AoU was absolutely ruined by the fact that everyone knew Ultron wouldn’t be a real threat, because the actual danger that is coming was already teased several times. It kind of feels the same with Civil War, it's just another prelude for Infinity War. That's what the series have been for the most part, every movie is a prelude for something that's about to come. That's what I loved about DOFP, it was an old fashioned contained story, that didn't really set anything in motion for Apocalypse. The threat was there and it was severe. And don't get me wrong, I love many MCU movies as much as I love the X-Men films, but it's a real complaint for me.

I understand your point. But at the same time.. we have no clue what the status quo will be by the time Infinity War begins. We just know a few actors who are indeed signed up... but with what aspects and there's many we don't know for sure if they're even signed on for the film...

that also being said.. being signed on doesn't mean you're alive

 

[Link]

Civil War is gonna have far more heavy consequences. Many are not walking out of that one and directly into Infinite War unaffected, or at all.

CW has nothing to do with the galaxy side of things so I'm not sure why that seems like a prelude in any way.

It definitely wont be AoU bad with that stuff, and it's most likely going to be a fantastic film. Still, you never know. A huge reason for Ultron's failure and constant reminders of future sequels were the executives, not Whedon. It is reassuring to hear that Thanos wont be making an appearance.

 

[def28]

It definitely wont be AoU bad with that stuff, and it's most likely going to be a fantastic film. Still, you never know. A huge reason for Ultron's failure and constant reminders of future sequels were the executives, not Whedon. It is reassuring to hear that Thanos wont be making an appearance.

Unless they push something with Vision heavily, all the major galaxy stuff leading into IW will be in Thor 3 or GOTG2.

It will be more setting the stage for Spidey and BP if anything imo.

But yeah, with both these properties there are different issues. Where the X-Men franchise is headed is always in debate and in frustration amongst X fans though. They jump decades and have films all over the place yet say they want a connected universe and to be like Marvel.

 

[spideyboy_1111]

That comes down to scheduling movies out ahead of time, not continuity errors. If Marvel went the Fox route and just said "untitled marvel movie" set for whatever date, they could easily avoid most of those issues you mentioned. But then fans (myself included) would b*tch because "I must know what they're working on!!" Fox on the other hand, by not announcing things, avoids undercutting the stakes, but it also makes them look nervous about the property, like they're convinced each film might fail.

that and it stops them from truly being able to map and plan ahead for continuity sake. they've always done basically 1 film at a time.. pretty sure Apocalypse is the only X-film they knew right away what story they were going to tell or to set up for... with the prior film.

well... singer also tried with X1-X2 and his X3.. which could explain why DOFP and Apocalypse feel more cohesive than the non Singer films

 

[spideyboy_1111]

It definitely wont be AoU bad with that stuff, and it's most likely going to be a fantastic film. Still, you never know. A huge reason for Ultron's failure and constant reminders of future sequels were the executives, not Whedon. It is reassuring to hear that Thanos wont be making an appearance.

that's not even why AOU wasn't as great.. it was the story its self.. and Ultron still wasn't the best villain in the world either...

I don't think the future films hurt it's performance at all

 

[Link]

That comes down to scheduling movies out ahead of time, not continuity errors. If Marvel went the Fox route and just said "untitled marvel movie" set for whatever date, they could easily avoid most of those issues you mentioned. But then fans (myself included) would b*tch because "I must know what they're working on!!" Fox on the other hand, by not announcing things, avoids undercutting the stakes, but it also makes them look nervous about the property, like they're convinced each film might fail.

That's so true, you can't please all the fans no matter what you do. It is becoming a trend to announce your whole slate of upcoming superhero movies at con's, so I would guess Fox will get into that action heavier too in the future, especially with all the Deadpool/X-Force material that's about to come.

 

[Smilodon]

Lawd this thread. This entire board.

 

[Link]

that and it stops them from truly being able to map and plan ahead for continuity sake. they've always done basically 1 film at a time.. pretty sure Apocalypse is the only X-film they knew right away what story they were going to tell or to set up for... with the prior film.

well... singer also tried with X1-X2 and his X3.. which could explain why DOFP and Apocalypse feel more cohesive than the non Singer films

Doing one film at a time can also be a really good thing. While doing DOFP they were already thinking of the concept for Apocalypse, even if there really aren't any hints for it, besides the post-credit scene.

There were a lot of rumors about Singer developing the next film in the series, but no idea if that is true. In two months we will know more. They have a brand new cast so they will want to do something.

 

[TWayneP]

Lawd this thread. This entire board.

Great isn't it?

 

[kasjan]

Would love if Beast after this does Bruce Lee motion (dry off lips), and says to himself: 'Damn, we really need Danger Room'.

 

[ciscostudent561]

you know complaining about the complainers wont do much.
heres a tip, find the comments u like and respond to them. just ignore what u dont like