Shang-Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings General Discussion and Speculation thread

[Another_Fool]

It wasn't necessarily poor quality - it was just too much with this ugly grey filter/background.

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That and combined with the fact that Shang Chi can just like ride a dragon willy nilly. That took me out more than the CGI.

 

[Mjolnir Reborn]

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That and combined with the fact that Shang Chi can just like ride a dragon willy nilly. That took me out more than the CGI.

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It's interesting how different one can see things since I thought that him riding a dragon he's been set up to have a magical connection to is far less fantastical than the fact that there's a dragon and magic to begin with.

 

[Web-Head]

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That and combined with the fact that Shang Chi can just like ride a dragon willy nilly. That took me out more than the CGI.

Yep. I was really enjoying the movie too up until the third act but it really brought the movie down for me

 

[Pennywise]

‘Shang-Chi’ Wowing With $80M Labor Day Weekend Box Office Record – Deadline

 

[Another_Fool]

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It's interesting how different one can see things since I thought that him riding a dragon he's been set up to have a magical connection to is far less fantastical than the fact that there's a dragon and magic to begin with.

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You misunderstand me. Him being able to ride a dragon isn't the issue. It's that he knew how to ride it instantaneously. The dragon and magic were gradually built up to in the film. Him being able to ride a dragon wasn't. He can just do it in an instant.

 

[Mr. Peanut]

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You misunderstand me. Him being able to ride a dragon isn't the issue. It's that he knew how to ride it instantaneously. The dragon and magic were gradually built up to in the film. Him being able to ride a dragon wasn't. He can just do it in an instant.

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I'm confused. What does riding a dragon of that size entail other than "hold on tight"?

 

[Filmfan93]

Just watched this and it was awesome.

One of the better MCU solo entries.

Full review in the Rate & Review thread.

 

[Another_Fool]

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I'm confused. What does riding a dragon of that size entail other than "hold on tight"?

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Well this is in the vein of what I'm saying. He didn't look like he was hanging tight. He was essentially sitting on there almost comfortably and mind you this is as they're coming out of the water where the force of emerging should've at least, I don't know made him struggle a little to hang on, not look like he was parasailing. I think it's more like they didn't want to deal with doing the special effects on that and it isn't a dealbreaker but it certainly takes me out a little.

 

[The Caped Knight]

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You misunderstand me. Him being able to ride a dragon isn't the issue. It's that he knew how to ride it instantaneously. The dragon and magic were gradually built up to in the film. Him being able to ride a dragon wasn't. He can just do it in an instant.

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i think it’s implied by his Mother that he has a personal connection to the Great protector

 

[Iceman]

I won’t spoil anything here but I absolutely loved this. It was a bit like a light MCU version of Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon which is a big compliment as it’s one of my favourite films. It feels like the MCU is growing in a positive way again. I’m excited for the future.

 

[JB33]

Going to be a better than expected OW. I still think on a different weekend it could have been even better - Labor Day weekend IS a historical box office trash can - but the difference might not be too much and besides, with all the delays Marvel, like other studios, is facing a log jam. They had to get this movie out there.

Liked the movie more than I expected to, by the way. I'll post expanded thoughts at some point in the spoiler thread. Reeeeeally hoping this defies COVID box office rules and legs it out. It deserves a closer to normal times box office total.

 

[carrrnuttt]

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You misunderstand me. Him being able to ride a dragon isn't the issue. It's that he knew how to ride it instantaneously. The dragon and magic were gradually built up to in the film. Him being able to ride a dragon wasn't. He can just do it in an instant.

This is a bit of massive nitpick and a stretch to find one, considering it was established earlier in several parts of the movie that Shang-Chi has great balance and timing, which is essential to riding a moving object.

Hint: It was established during the bus and scaffolding fights.

 

[Another_Fool]

This is a bit of massive nitpick and a stretch to find one, considering it was established earlier in several parts of the movie that Shang-Chi has great balance and timing, which is essential to riding a moving object.

Hint: It was established during the bus and scaffolding fights.

And even he had more difficulty keeping his balance on the bus which is why you don't see me saying anything about that busfight scene. This isn't a massive nitpick because like I said this isn't a dealbreaker, I'm just being honest as to why it took me out of the film during the 3rd act. Lol Dude I like this movie a lot and is my Top 5 in the MCU, take a step back and not be so defensive. I'm not calling this movie garbage because of it.

 

[carrrnuttt]

And even he had more difficulty keeping his balance on the bus which is why you don't see me saying anything about that busfight scene. This isn't a massive nitpick because like I said this isn't a dealbreaker, I'm just being honest as to why it took me out of the film during the 3rd act. Lol Dude I like this movie a lot and is my Top 5 in the MCU, take a step back and not be so defensive. I'm not calling this movie garbage because of it.

I'm not being defensive. I'm just being practical about it. You're being defensive about what took you out of the movie, and I am telling you why that part did no such thing for me.

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Not only is the back of the dragon a lot more "grippy" than the smooth top of a bus, but it's a sentient being that WANTED the people on its back to be there and stay there. I'm sure it's more than capable of thinking of leveraging its movements to do so. Not to mention it can both water and air bend.

Shang-Chi hanging on to the back of a dragon was not even in the Top 100 of unbelievable things in this movie.

 

[Heretic]

I thought that part was silly. REALLY loved the movie...its better than most of the MCU in my eyes...but its not above some criticism.

 

[Ctfxcwatcher]

Really loved this. Wow best fight hand on hand fight scenes in the MCU. Will be seeing this again next weekend.

 

[Another_Fool]

I'm not being defensive. I'm just being practical about it. You're being defensive about what took you out of the movie, and I am telling you why that part did no such thing for me.

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Not only is the back of the dragon a lot more "grippy" than the smooth top of a bus, but it's a sentient being that WANTED the people on its back to be there and stay there. I'm sure it's more than capable of thinking of leveraging its movements to do so. Not to mention it can both water and air bend.

Shang-Chi hanging on to the back of a dragon was not even in the Top 100 of unbelievable things in this movie.

Oh I don't deny I'm being defensive to your comment lol. But let's be real if you were practical about it you would've stuck to discussing it like the others who disagreed with me. You felt the need to add that I was massively nitpicking and stretching to find one. It was simply how I felt and I didn't think it hurt the movie substantially. Have a little self awareness about your comment.

 

[carrrnuttt]

Oh I don't deny I'm being defensive to your comment lol. But let's be real if you were practical about it you would've stuck to discussing it like the others who disagreed with me. You felt the need to add that I was massively nitpicking and stretching to find one. It was simply how I felt and I didn't think it hurt the movie substantially. Have a little self awareness about your comment.

Uhh. Because that was my practical opinion of it?

Think about how fantastical this movie is.

And the main character hanging on TO THE BACK OF A DRAGON is what "took you out" of the movie???

 

[Marvel united]

This was GREAT. I was wrong on nearly every front about this movie, I'd even go as far as to say it's the BEST MCU origin film

 

[Rice Eater]

I'm curious how they'll handle Shang Chi in team up movies. Does Simu always get his own special fight choreographers for just his scenes or something like that? We can't have the most skilled fighter in the MCU all of a sudden looking like Loki, Falcon, or Winter soldier did in their recent Disney Plus shows.

 

[Mjolnir Reborn]

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You misunderstand me. Him being able to ride a dragon isn't the issue. It's that he knew how to ride it instantaneously. The dragon and magic were gradually built up to in the film. Him being able to ride a dragon wasn't. He can just do it in an instant.

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No, I got what you meant and my post was made for that context. It was built up that special people have a magical connection to it, and that he was prepared for that just as well as the rings by his mother, so for him to ride it in that context is way less fantastical than the existence of most things in Ta Lo to me.

It will likely go for magic in the MCU in general. If Doctor Strange cast a spell to allow someone to ride an already existing magical dragon it would rank pretty low among his mystical achievements in my view.

 

[Another_Fool]

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No, I got what you meant and my post was made for that context. It was built up that special people have a magical connection to it, and that he was prepared for that just as well as the rings by his mother, so for him to ride it in that context is way less fantastical than the existence of most things in Ta Lo to me.

It will likely go for magic in the MCU in general. If Doctor Strange cast a spell to allow someone to ride an already existing magical dragon it would rank pretty low among his mystical achievements in my view.

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I get you too. Like I said I do buy that ultimately he is able to ride a dragon, that tracks; I just think it would've been not jarring if he struggled for like 20 or 30 seconds on film.

Uhh. Because that was my practical opinion of it?

Think about how fantastical this movie is.

And the main character hanging on TO THE BACK OF A DRAGON is what "took you out" of the movie???

I'd like to ask a couple questions then. When I say this was not a dealbreaker and doesn't hurt the film, how does it equate that this is in your words a "a massive nitpick"? And by "stretching to find one" are you saying I'm making it up that it took me out in the theater? To address your questions, I buy that

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he can ultimately ride a dragon and for many of the reasons you and others commented on; What took me out for a moment was it was without the slightest struggle.

I don't think you understand that was an unnecessarily dismissive comment. That you disagreed and provided reasons are fine, I am not telling anyone in here they must agree with me, I'm fine if you all bought in right away. It just took me out, that is the fact. I didn't conjure up that feeling in the theater on purpose, and that's what colored your response in a defensive tone when you start out with a dismissive comment.

Plus you don't need to go all caps here if you did it because you thought I'm getting angry or anything. The tone I've been taking with this conversation is akin to just us talking over a beer and and maybe an innocent shrug once or twice. It's cool.

 

[Mjolnir Reborn]

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I get you too. Like I said I do buy that ultimately he is able to ride a dragon, that tracks; I just think it would've been not jarring if he struggled for like 20 or 30 seconds on film.

Yes, and that's perfectly fine as I just commented based on that it's interesting with different reactions on the same thing, and added my own just to show the difference. We like what we like and this isn't a case where there's any facts involved so we just react as it comes.

 

[Leo Zelinsky]

sitting in car waiting to see this. saw black widow twice and fell asleep both times. these last few years i only seen marvel movies in theaters. will see James bond though. super excited for Shang chi only saw trailers and kept myself mostly spoiler free.

 

[Pennywise]

‘Shang-Chi’ Wowing With $90M Labor Day Weekend Box Office Record – Deadline