The Cocreator
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I already read the ultimates graphic novel and it's great, avengers reunion for a true threat is better than reusing a villain.
No, FF2 had a certain Zenn-Lavian in it.
I don't want it to be The Avengers vs a Massive army.
I want it to be far more intricate than that. I'd much rather one brand new big bad guy who is using things from previous films to manipulate stuff for a goal revealed at the end. Possibly using big armies as diversions.
Given that it's somewhat of a unsure thing that Robert will reprise his role as Tony by the time the sequel to the Avengers comes around, i would say just go into the Avengers with Chris Nolan's mentality, meaning...
Do as much as you reasonably can with the mindset that this is your one and only opportunity to get things right.
Do we honestly want to risk on not having all of our core Avengers there when they do go up against an Invasion? I would rather have the likes of RDJ present in a film where they go up against large ass threat that doesn't involve a "singular/duo" foe.
Plus, isn't it like a common theme for franchises such as these for the heroes to first go up against an external threat before the franchise starts focusing on problems within the hero's core group/internal issues?
You can't avoid the struggles of the group in this film. Plus, you'd miss out on great story telling.
I'm not saying that the first film should avoid it. Obviously, the part where each avenger member learning to co exist in the same group despite the MAJOR difference in their personalities IS something that SHOULD, and most likely WILL be covered in the first film.
It's the dynamics of how they learn to coexist and function as a true cohesive group that will be ONE of the MAJOR appealing factors for the film.
Now be that as it may, my point/argument was that I'm been an advocate against the villains of the film being simply Loki and a controlled hulk. Why?
1. I'm not totally familiar with the comics, but how many interesting dynamics and twist could you do with Loki and a controlled Hulk being the villains for the Entire film alone?
2. What would be the point of including Black Widow and Hawkeye against the likes of Hulk and Loki?
3. This film is the only one that it's a guaranteed thing that we'll have RDJ portraying Iron Man. Do you really want to risk the chance of not having him in the sequel if that's the film where the Avengers has to go up against an invasion?
4. Bringing in an armada of Skrulls allows each of the confirmed avengers to actively participate in the struggles against the villainous group.
5. From a story telling point of view and imho, it would be better to introduce a larger than life threat that the audience hasn't been exposed to in any of the previous films. Bringing in Loki as the main villain that works behind the scenes on introducing a new breed of villains is the smart way to go imho since you have a familiar factor used wisely in bringing in a new element into the mix.
6. I would honestly prefer seeing the Hulk act more in a heroic role than villainous one, especially after he was the one chased throughout most of the events of TIH.
I'm not saying that the first film should avoid it. Obviously, the part where each avenger member learning to co exist in the same group despite the MAJOR difference in their personalities IS something that SHOULD, and most likely WILL be covered in the first film.
It's the dynamics of how they learn to coexist and function as a true cohesive group that will be ONE of the MAJOR appealing factors for the film.
Now be that as it may, my point/argument was that I'm been an advocate against the villains of the film being simply Loki and a controlled hulk. Why?
1. I'm not totally familiar with the comics, but how many interesting dynamics and twist could you do with Loki and a controlled Hulk being the villains for the Entire film alone?
2. What would be the point of including Black Widow and Hawkeye against the likes of Hulk and Loki?
3. This film is the only one that it's a guaranteed thing that we'll have RDJ portraying Iron Man. Do you really want to risk the chance of not having him in the sequel if that's the film where the Avengers has to go up against an invasion?
4. Bringing in an armada of Skrulls allows each of the confirmed avengers to actively participate in the struggles against the villainous group.
5. From a story telling point of view and imho, it would be better to introduce a larger than life threat that the audience hasn't been exposed to in any of the previous films. Bringing in Loki as the main villain that works behind the scenes on introducing a new breed of villains is the smart way to go imho since you have a familiar factor used wisely in bringing in a new element into the mix.
6. I would honestly prefer seeing the Hulk act more in a heroic role than villainous one, especially after he was the one chased throughout most of the events of TIH.