Keep Hope Alive: Marvel Netflix Series Edition

[Dr. Evil]

PTC are dog whistling scumbags.

Kind of surprised to be honest that they haven't gone after TBS/TNT for All Elite Wrestling. I would have thought they would go after AEW for allowing blood and swearing.

 

[TheVileOne]

Kind of surprised to be honest that they haven't gone after TBS/TNT for All Elite Wrestling. I would have thought they would go after AEW for allowing blood and swearing.

WWE and another outlet already went after AEW for that. "Bloody self-mutilation." So there has been a bit of that.

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[metaphysician]

Yeah, but that isn't the PTC or similar groups, its the competitors and advertisers. Probably for a couple reasons:

1. All the parties that a hypothetical family oriented group might try to leverage, are *already* moving against it.

2. Its wrestling, very few people care whether its family friendly ( as opposed to whether its safe for the participants ).

3. Because wrestling isn't fictional TV ( sort of, allegedly ) but a form of "sports", its not very useful for gaining greater control over TV in general

Basically, when you look at a group like the PTC, think "PETA": rife with extremism and apparent hypocrisy. The PTC isn't interested in advocacy that doesn't at least theoretically advance their cause of "gaining editorial control over all broadcast TV".

 

[TheVileOne]

Yeah, but that isn't the PTC or similar groups, its the competitors and advertisers. Probably for a couple reasons:

1. All the parties that a hypothetical family oriented group might try to leverage, are *already* moving against it.

2. Its wrestling, very few people care whether its family friendly ( as opposed to whether its safe for the participants ).

3. Because wrestling isn't fictional TV ( sort of, allegedly ) but a form of "sports", its not very useful for gaining greater control over TV in general

Basically, when you look at a group like the PTC, think "PETA": rife with extremism and apparent hypocrisy. The PTC isn't interested in advocacy that doesn't at least theoretically advance their cause of "gaining editorial control over all broadcast TV".

Frankly I've heard little of PTC until this latest publicity stunt about Disney+. I was frankly shocked they were still around.

No one should've even published that press release anyway. It's dumb.

 

[SirStrangefolk]

Daredevil Reboot Reportedly Set to Begin Production as Disney+ MCU Series - IGN

 

[Spider-Fan]

Daredevil Reboot Reportedly Set to Begin Production as Disney+ MCU Series - IGN

Doesn't really offer us any insight outside that it is happening. The word reboot is overused, so reboot may just mean it is a new show.

 

[Holy Slapper]

I hope they give DD a proper radar sense if there is a reboot of sorts.

 

[TheVileOne]

I hope they give DD a proper radar sense is there is a reboot of sorts.

You know this is a good point. I was never satisfied with how they used it on Netflix. There's literally just one shot of it, and then we never see it ever again.

The 2003 movie wasn't great and had its flaws, but they did actually try to visualize how the radar sense works. Spider-Man: The Animated Series did it too. I was always curious about that because the show set it up in that one episode but they never revisit it "The world on fire."

 

[Dr. Evil]

If they bring back these characters from the Defenders world, I think they add a new member in Echo. I can't see a repeat of their encounter with Elektra since I would think Echo would be a lot more heroic by then. I don't know if they bring back the Punisher. The new parental controls means he can come back without being neutered, but well....his symbol has been corrupted. Depending on what happens to Moon Knight at the end of his series, I could see him being the Punisher replacement in the Defenders MCU.

 

[NewYorkSpider]

I see a summary of DareDevil was on the Marvel website that connected DD season 1-3 and No Way Home, but was taken down hours later.

Marvel Removes Spider-Man: No Way Home Events From Daredevil Bio

 

[metaphysician]

I see a summary of DareDevil was on the Marvel website that connected DD season 1-3 and No Way Home, but was taken down hours later.

Marvel Removes Spider-Man: No Way Home Events From Daredevil Bio

I wonder if there is a chilling of relations between Sony and Disney, hence not wanting to continue promoting NWH right now.

 

[SirStrangefolk]

A costume designer has seemingly confirmed where we might see some of the Netflix characters next on her resume:
https://www.stacycaballerodesign.com/_files/ugd/c3d2a8_d4f5936f7b7e4401a904eb4f47e204b7.pdf

 

[Venom 1988]

I wonder if there is a chilling of relations between Sony and Disney, hence not wanting to continue promoting NWH right now.

No it's probably something simplier than that. The team that run Marvel's website probably have nothing to do with Marvel Studios. So they probably edited the page then were later told to remove it.

 

[SirStrangefolk]

 

[Detective Conan]

The Man Without Fear Returns.

 

[NotNickFury]

The writers don't exactly fill me with confidence, with hits like the CW's Containment or Covert Affairs. But stranger things have happened: Daredevil's third season showrunner came from Arrow, and the Russos gave us Winter Soldier despite also doing the timeless You, Me, and Dupree.

We'll see.

 

[Detective Conan]

 

[Filmfreak]

My main fear is it will be very toned down due to Disney+. Fisk's appearance in Hawkeye and Moon Knight didn't fill me with any confidence on something darker than the usual Feige flair.

 

[Dr. Evil]

My main fear is it will be very toned down due to Disney+. Fisk's appearance in Hawkeye and Moon Knight didn't fill me with any confidence on something darker than the usual Feige flair.

Was Daredevil always a dark character in the comics? Because if there was a run in the comics of a lighter Daredevil story, I think Disney would go that route and have the new show be inspired by that Daredevil comics run, assuming of course there is a lighter Daredevil comics run.

 

[Filmfreak]

Was Daredevil always a dark character in the comics? Because if there was a run in the comics of a lighter Daredevil story, I think Disney would go that route and have the new show be inspired by that Daredevil comics run, assuming of course there is a lighter Daredevil comics run.

Oh, I think the majority were much much lighter runs. But:
A. For me the most iconic and personal favourites were the Miller, Brubaker and Bendis runs, from which they certainly took inspiration in the Netflix show, and
B. I have even more of an issue with the inevitable tone change because they're keeping the actors from that series. If they were to do a complete reboot it would have been something different, but why revive something due to fan demand and then change what people liked about it?

I guess we'll wait and see, but I expect the Disney+ version to be clean, with no blood and gore, and with many more jokes.

 

[Venom 1988]

While I too like darker runs from people like Miller and Brubaker (and more recently from Chip Zdarsky) , I don't think they're the only way you need to do Daredevil. I felt the Mark Waid run from 10 years ago was a nice change a pace for the character, especially after everything that happened to him the few years leading up to it including Shadowland. I thought it was a good mixture of light-hearted, swashbuckling-eque stories while still maintaining serious matters in Matt's personal life (like Foggy's health issues). Despite the first glance at the artwork(which was great btw), Matt was still having his normal crisis of faith and psychological issues that's been so heavily connected to the character. If they took a page out of that run, I don't think I'd mind that.

 

[Mike Murdock]

Oh, I think the majority were much much lighter runs. But:
A. For me the most iconic and personal favourites were the Miller, Brubaker and Bendis runs, from which they certainly took inspiration in the Netflix show, and

FWIW, I don't think Frank Miller's original run is as dark as people remember it. Certainly not as dark as Bendis or Brubaker. Issues like the Paper Chase and Guts were almost comedy stories.

 

[Filmfreak]

I recently got into Born Again and it's still pretty grim, but most of Miller's run I haven't read in years, if at all. Still, I think you have to judge something for the time it was out and not by today's standards.

 

[Silvermoth]

Hmm

 

[Prison Mike]