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They don't own the merchandising rights. They can't produce merchandise for the film, they haven't been able to do that since XMO Wolverine. They have nothing to negotiate with. Marvel can black ball them from producing film merchandise as long as they want and Fox can't do a damn thing about it.
They can't cross over FF with X-men without Marvel's consent so that is a dead end as well.
Well Fox do have the right to the cut of the film merchandising they just have no control over what gets made, but Marvel clearly doesn't care too much about it since they seem to be willing to have no merchandising than share the profits from them.
I don't know when that statement was made but I don't believe all of the top execs at FOX feel that way. They will deal how they see fit if its in their best interests.
The big point is there will NEVER be a FF/X-men crossover so long as Fox holds the rights.
The statement also proved false - FOX lost Daredevil just a few years later.
It wasn't for lack of trying to avoid it though.
Yeah, Fox only lost the DD rights because they screwed up, and/or were screwed by the director leaving at the last minute.
Thank you, I've been saying that for a while now but some people think it is still in the cards.
Where are the sources stating that X-Men and FF can't crossover legally with FOX?
have you seen their last few movies? they are not far away from that leveland I doubt Fox will ever bring the X-men down to that level.
Where are the sources stating that X-Men and FF can't crossover legally with FOX?
The source is this board, not anyone actually in the know. Its based on the speculation on what the contract says or doesn't say. But we don't know what the contract says or doesn't say. So some are speculating it means they can't crossover.
Until a crossover film is announced for 2018 of course.
No. There were specific statements from people in the know that have been linked and discussed to death on this forum. I don't care enough to go looking for them or get into it again, but they're here.
Namor's rights are with UniversalSo what's the deal with Namor?
I wish they could get him in this series if it went forward( trade him for SS/Galactus).
So what's the deal with Namor?
I wish they could get him in this series if it went forward( trade him for SS/Galactus).
So what's the deal with Namor?
I wish they could get him in this series if it went forward( trade him for SS/Galactus).
Namor is complicated. Marvel owns his productions rights, but Universal has his distribution rights. It's the same with The Hulk.
This is why we haven't gotten a new Hulk movie since TIH.
Yeah, Fox only lost the DD rights because they screwed up, and/or were screwed by the director leaving at the last minute.
They lost the rights because, like FF, it was a franchise they didn't care about (they only care about X-Men), and they tried to slap a film together at the last minute to retain the rights. However, behind the scenes issues with the director (due to the VERY rushed production schedule), he left, and Marvel left them with the ultimatum of letting the rights go, or giving them the Silver Surfer and Galactus rights in exchange for am extension.
They chose the former.
have you seen their last few movies? they are not far away from that level
I disagree. Namor works better as an Avengers villain who'd also be shown in flashbacks to be friends with Captain America before redeeming himself and joining the Avengers.
If he becomes part of the FF-verse, he'll make the sequel some sort of romance flick between him and Sue. I like my FF as a sci-fi series, not a tale of marital infidelity.
And Galactus works better with the FF since I prefer many of his stories with the FF than I do with the GOTG.
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I kind of see Namor in FF as a Stargate movie. Yeah, there's romance, but Reed and Sue should start to get together in a sequel. At the end of the day, it's still about an ancient society threatening Earth.
Galactus and Surfer just work better with the tone GOTG has than what Fox's 4 is going for. Ego the Living Planet would be perfect for this sci-fi tone Trank has set.
Guess Trank decided to play ball and it took a toll on him.