Apocalypse The X-Men: Apocalypse FACTS Thread

[Mulholland-Jr]

Inspired by JP's thread from the DOFP days, I decided to bring it back for Apocalypse for all the confused kittens out there. Here is a thread that lists all the CONFIRMED info we've gotten from the studio, Singer, Kinberg, and credible sources about the next X-Men film.


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1) Bryan Singer is directing the film.

2) The film is written by Simon Kinberg (Days of Future Past, 2015's Fantastic Four), Michael Dougherty (X2, Superman Returns), Dan Harris (X2, Superman Returns), and Bryan Singer.

3) X-Men, X2: X-Men United, X-Men: The Last Stand, X-Men Origins: Wolverine, The Wolverine are no longer a part of the main canon.

4) The film will be set in 1983 (10 years after the events of the past segment of Days of Future Past) and "will complete a trilogy that began with
X-Men: First Class" according to Kinberg. The film will also feature "sequences that take place in ancient times" as well.

5) Apocalypse (also known as En Sabah Nur or "the first one") will be the main antagonist and will portrayed by Oscar Isaac. Kinberg describes Apocalypse as "the darkest villain of the series"

6) The confirmed cast for the film is as follows:
James McAvoy - Professor X
Michael Fassbender - Magneto (HORSEMAN)
Jennifer Lawrence - Mystique
Nicholas Hoult - Beast
Oscar Isaac - Apocalypse
Rose Byrne - Moira MacTaggert
Evan Peters - Quicksilver
Lucas Till- Havok
Tye Sheridan - Cyclops
Sophie Turner - Jean Grey
Alexandra Shipp - Storm (HORSEMAN)
Kodi Smit-McPhee - Nightcrawler
Lana Condor- Jubilee
Ben Hardy- Angel (HORSEMAN)
Olivia Munn- Psylocke (HORSEMAN)
Josh Helman - Maj. Bill Stryker(Added 7/12)
Tómas Lemarquis- Caliban (Added 7/8)


7) The movie will be the completion of the first arcs of Charles, Eric, Raven, and Hank, who will be the main characters.

8) According to Singer, “It will also address historical mutant-cy, meaning the deep past, mutant origins and things like that. It’s something that’s always intrigued me when we think about our Gods and our history and miracles and powers.”

9) According to Kinberg, this will contain more mass destruction than any of the previous X-Films: "We've spent the most time talking about is creating a character that's the most powerful mutant villain that we've seen in the X-Men movies so far - more powerful than Magneto or the Phoenix! The kind of scope and scale we're talking about is like a disaster movie featuring an extinction-level event. We're talking Michael Bay/Roland Emmerich-style moviemaking, which you've never seen in an X-Men movie, or any superhero movie."

10) Rose Byrne will return as Moira MacTaggert. Kinberg states: "Moira is back in a big way, this is a chance to do something we haven't seen before-- a proper Charles Xavier love story."

11) Channing Tatum as Gambit will not be in the film, but will star in his own solo film directed by Rupert Wyatt (Rise of the Planet of the Apes) set to be released October 7, 2016. (Added 6/18)

12) Principal photography is scheduled to commence April 28, 2015 at Mel's Studio in Montreal, Canada. Same studio used for Days of Future Past. Other filming locations include:
Plaza Côte-des-Neiges (Shopping Mall in Montreal)- April 25th-April 30th
Fonderie Laperle (Manhole Factory) - Saint-Ours, Quebec - May 2nd-May 8th
John Abbot College - Week of May 18th
Vieux-Port de Montréal- ??

13) Louise Mingenbach (X-Men, X2, Days of Future Past) will return as costume designer for the film.

14) Grant Major (Lord of the Rings Trilogy) will be the new production designer for the film.

15) John Ottman will return to score and edit the film.

16) Richard Stammers John Dykstra (X-Men: First Class, Spider-Man 2) will return as the visual effects supervisor for the film.

17) Stan Lee will return to cameo; his first since 2006's X-Men: The Last Stand. X-celsior!

18) Like its predecessor, the film will be shot in native stereo 3D and not post-converted.

19) The film will be released May 27, 2016

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Let me know if I've forgotten anything (or made errors) below, and I'll make sure to add it.

 

[JP]

I thought of making this the other day. Thanks Mulholland!

 

[psylockolussus]

3) X-Men, X2: X-Men United, X-Men: The Last Stand, X-Men Origins: Wolverine, The Wolverine are no longer a part of the main canon.

Huh? They exist in the original timeline not just in the altered timeline. Apocalypse is still the 9th film in the X-Men film series.

 

[Mulholland-Jr]

Don't be pedantic about it. They are no longer a part of the streamlined canon established after DOFP.

 

[psylockolussus]

They are still canon though.

 

[Mulholland-Jr]

Not the new established canon. They exist solely as a precursor or as a context to the new series.

 

[psylockolussus]

There's timeline #2 but there's no canon #2. IMO. Original timeline leads to second timeline. They are all part of the same canon.

 

[kasjan]

Canon and altered timeline isn't same.
psylockolussus is right, those movies are in canon, it's just different timeline.
Like we would say some scenes in Back to Future aren't canon, because are atltered...,
but all those events leads to new timeline.

 

[Mulholland-Jr]

For simplicity's sake, I'll leave it as it is. It's the best way for people to understand that the future films will no longer abide by the previous film's chronology. It's a new canon. Clean slate. Anything can happen.

 

[EnDz0n3]

Where was the year (1983) confirmed? Just curious.

 

[marvelrobbins]

Kinberg confirmed it.

 

[kasjan]

2 hour podcast with Kinberg, he said: ,,next movie takes place in 1983".

 

[marvelrobbins]

For simplicity's sake, I'll leave it as it is. It's the best way for people to understand that the future films will no longer abide by the previous film's chronology. It's a new canon. Clean slate. Anything can happen.

I agree with this.untill spinoffs like deadpool,Gambit,and new wolverine film
come into play the canon of films are first class trilogy-First class,Days of future Past,and now Apocalypse.

 

[Mulholland-Jr]

Bump.

 

[MakeMinesMarvel]

Get X1 - X3 outta here. Good riddance

 

[Rike]

 

[marvelrobbins]

Get X1 - X3 outta here. Good riddance

Some of us don't like that attitude towards X-Men and X2.Ok we do like that
towards last standt:

Anyway Grant Major Is the production designer.

He designed the lord of the rings trilogy.He also designed Green Lantern but let's not hold that against him

 

[CyclopsWasRight]

Very concise. Good job

 

[dax]

Huh? They exist in the original timeline not just in the altered timeline. Apocalypse is still the 9th film in the X-Men film series.

Apocalype will not acknowledge those films. The events of each film don't exist in the new timeline created by DOFP (except for the X1 opening scene, the first 8 minutes of Origins, and the WW2 flashback scene in the Wolverine) so they're not canon anymore.

 

[psylockolussus]

Apocalype will not acknowledge those films. The events of each film don't exist in the new timeline created by DOFP (except for the X1 opening scene, the first 8 minutes of Origins, and the WW2 flashback scene in the Wolverine) so they're not canon anymore.

I read this somewhere that Wolverine time travelling is the reason why Apocalypse woke up from his long sleep? If thats legit.. then the actions from the original timeline meant something to this new timeline.

 

[kasjan]

If don't count, then all comics with old timelines don't count too, that's stupid ideology.
Every movies counts, it's juts different timeline.

 

[marvelrobbins]

I read this somewhere that Wolverine time travelling is the reason why Apocalypse woke up from his long sleep? If thats legit.. then the actions from the original timeline meant something to this new timeline.

That's true.

One comment that fans of original trilogy or at very least X-Men/X2 should take note of Is Sophie Turner saying her version of Jean will be similar to jean In
X-Men/X2.Let's not forget they cast an actress as storm who can be seen as
younger version of Halle Berry's storm

Lauren Shueller Donnor said during press for DOFP despite changes to timeline
things are moving closer to staus quo of earlier films

Xavier starting school-which we know by end of DOFP will be very much like in trilogy
Magneto and Mystique being realigned
Beast moving towards Kelsey Grammer's version-accepting his appearancing and stopping these cure attempts

It's a delicate balancing act they are doing.They don't want to be limited by what happened in trilogy and wolverine films but at same time they want connection to them or at very least connection to X-Men/X2/The Wolverine going by Donnor's comments fans can just forget about last Stand and origins comments.Obviously none of non FC films can happen exactly as they
exsist on film now.

 

[GuestStar2004]

That's true.

One comment that fans of original trilogy or at very least X-Men/X2 should take note of Is Sophie Turner saying her version of Jean will be similar to jean In X-Men/X2.

no she didn't say her jean would be similar she said she wanted to emulate Famkes jean as she is mean't to be a younger version so that

although if she had actualy read a script or not at that point who knows, seeing as she didn't mention getting a script there is serious doubt

It's a delicate balancing act they are doing.They don't want to be limited by what happened in trilogy and wolverine films but at same time they want connection to them or at very least connection to X-Men/X2/The Wolverine going by Donnor's comments fans can just forget about last Stand and origins comments.Obviously none of non FC films can happen exactly as they
exsist on film now.

technically X1 could still happen with a Couple of differences, X2 could kinda happen maybe but wolverine would have no connection to stryker (if he is still alive anyway) and jean wouldn't die and its hard to say whether the wolverine would even slightly happen since he wouldn't have killed jean making him leave with the guilt and get mixed up in the idea of making himself mortal so he can die

when she says X3 and origins didn't happen she is obviously talking about the disappointing stuff that fans feel screwed over some of the characters like cyclops, deadpool

the OT is still part of continuity to the point that its the timeline that went to hell forcing them to have to cross over and reset things a new timeline making apocalypse happen presumably

 

[GuestStar2004]

That's true.

One comment that fans of original trilogy or at very least X-Men/X2 should take note of Is Sophie Turner saying her version of Jean will be similar to jean In X-Men/X2.

No she didn't say her jean would be similar she said she wanted to emulate Famkes jean as she is meant to be a younger version

Although if she has actualy read a script or not at that point who knows, seeing as she didn't mention getting a script there is some doubt

its like jennifer lawrence saying for FC i am gonna play mystique close to rebecca's version... then getting the script and then finding out she is playing a more talkative good girl mystique

It's a delicate balancing act they are doing.They don't want to be limited by what happened in trilogy and wolverine films but at same time they want connection to them or at very least connection to X-Men/X2/The Wolverine going by Donnor's comments fans can just forget about last Stand and origins comments.Obviously none of non FC films can happen exactly as they
exsist on film now.

Technically X1 could still happen with a Couple of differences, X2 could kinda happen maybe but wolverine would have no connection to stryker (if he is still alive anyway) and jean wouldn't die and its hard to say whether the wolverine would even slightly happen since he wouldn't have killed jean making him leave with the guilt and get mixed up in the idea of making himself mortal so he can die

when she says X3 and origins didn't happen she is obviously talking about the disappointing stuff that fans feel screwed over some of the characters like cyclops, deadpool

the OT is still part of continuity to the point that its the timeline that went to hell forcing them to have to cross over resetting things making apocalypse happen, so without that timeline we wouldn't be getting these events

 

[dax]

Technically X1 could still happen with a Couple of differences, X2 could kinda happen maybe but wolverine would have no connection to stryker (if he is still alive anyway) and jean wouldn't die and its hard to say whether the wolverine would even slightly happen since he wouldn't have killed jean making him leave with the guilt and get mixed up in the idea of making himself mortal so he can die

when she says X3 and origins didn't happen she is obviously talking about the disappointing stuff that fans feel screwed over some of the characters like cyclops, deadpool

the OT is still part of continuity to the point that its the timeline that went to hell forcing them to have to cross over resetting things making apocalypse happen, so without that timeline we wouldn't be getting these events

I don't believe that the events of X1 would still happen since the world learns about mutants much earlier than what took place in X1. Plus, after witnessing Mystique save President Nixon from Magneto on live TV, the humans would come to accept mutants instead of fearing them, hence why the sentinel program is canceled. This action will take away Magneto's motivation to build a mutation machine that turns humans into mutants and he also won't have Mystique by his side since they tried to kill each other.
I also doubt that the events of X2 would still happen not only because Jean Grey is alive but we know that Mystique was masqurading as Stryker at the end of DOFP. None of us know if the real Stryker is alive or dead but his disappearance means that he isn't around to kidnap or brainwash:

-Nightcrawler into attacking the White House.
-Charles Xavier into killing the entire mutant race by using cerebro.
or
-Cyclops into attacking Jean Grey causing her to rebound his laser beams which led to the dam collapsing and Jean sacrificing herself.

Stryker's disappearance also cancels out the events of Origins and X1 due to the fact that without him, a) Wolverine never volunteers for the weapon x experiment nor does he have amnesia and b) Gambit and Deadpool are getting their own movies. Most of the events in the X-men trilogy and Origins: Wolverine were caused by Stryker but with him gone, all of the movies' events never happened.