We need another movie like Aliens, Predator, Terminator...

[L0ngsh0t]

Since when would I want to be friends with you?

Are you seriously going to sit at your PC and try to sell me this Serenity movie that has almost porn star level acting at times, a rushed plot that aims to be deep, but comes across shallow and cartoonish, and bad dialogue mostly stupid oneliners that are supposed to be 'cool'. I give it a B- as a film. Don't be an ass and put the word 'sucked' in my post. Average does not = sucked, last I heard. It's worth a watch if you're a sci-fi fan but not what it's hyped to be. Stick with Starship Troopers...

Right porn star level acting, right about that....

Nathan Fillion, Chiwetel Ejiofor...those names ring a bell? Yeah thats cause they are two of the best up and coming actors around, yeah they are the leads, followed by a great supporting cast

Starship Troopers is a fantastic WW2 satire btw, besides the fact the whole movie is tounge in cheek at old alien movies, its a pretty good time if you aren't pretentious enough to look past the camp that it went for. So yeah slow your roll a bit, and actually watch movies instead of reading reviews of some guy you like, cause most of what you just said bad about Serenity sounds like a wanna be like internet critc star, I'm pretty sure I could look up Rottentomatoes, and go to the negitive reviews, and find one that has a similar stance (and it won't be that hard cause there are only about 10 percent of reviews that are negative of Serenity, cause most critcs aren't ******ed and they know what they are talking about)

 

[ShadowBoxing]

Right porn star level acting, right about that....

Nathan Fillion, Chiwetel Ejiofor...those names ring a bell? Yeah thats cause they are two of the best up and coming actors around, yeah they are the leads, followed by a great supporting cast

Nathan Fillion is not that great an actor...I've seen him. He is mediocre at best.

 

[Halofan1]

The Black Eyed Peas where just The Peas until Nathan Fillion heard their music.

Nathan Fillion isn't hung a like a horse. Horses are hung like Nathan Fillion.

 

[L0ngsh0t]

Nathan Fillion is not that great an actor...I've seen him. He is mediocre at best.

Well you maybe true, but I also did not say he was great, the words you quoted me where "One of the best up and coming actors"

By that I mean, he has made some great stuff for being in very little, but he keeps getting more and more roles, and I do think one day he will be a great big name actor, but right now he is just a really good up and coming actor

way better than mediocre tho

 

[Wilhelm-Scream]

I have no clue what you are saying.
It's all over the place.
If you could clarify it...

Ah, okay. I'll explain the post.

Serenity was a TV show that got cancelled after a very short time. Even Whedon was shocked that anyone agreed to finance the movie, thinking that it didn't deserve to be made into one.

Next, 99% of the time, a movie's trailler is a collection of some of the best, most intriguing, funniest, most visually dazzling or exciting moments from the movie....to really sell it, to get the audience excited to come back and pay to see it.

So I saw the trailler for Serenity and it was one of the most boring, "who cares" traillers I've ever seen for a Sci-Fi movie.
Just drab, uninspired production design, Original Star Trek level "man with some rubber glued to his face" style aliens, and "funny" lines trying to masquerade as witty but that just left me .

So, I watched the trailler and at work later I was curious as to why anyone would even watch Serenity. I knew it had fans, but I couldn't see why.

So I did some reading and found out what it was about, and what it's "about" is, a collection of some of the most boring-ass, used up, done to death, derivative, lazy Sci-Fi tropes around.

So to clarify, what I was saying was, Serenity doesn't count because it sucks.

 

[amazingfantasy15]

I thought Serenity was fantastic, this was before I was even a big fan of Whedon's work. A friend recommended Firefly and I got that, thought it was okay, not great, the movie blew me away though, it just had this dangerous vibe and you weren't sure if any of the main characters would make it out alive. However, I know everyone won't agree.

As for another great action movie, Children of Men is one, not complete action, it takes a while to get going, but the final 30-45 minutes are really intense. It pretty much feels like you're in the middle of a Call of Duty game. It uses more of a reluctant hero like Die Hard, than a superhero like Aliens, Predator and Terminator though, so I'm not sure it qualifies for this thread. However, it does feel pretty original and has great tension. Having one of the larger, big billed names die so soon really helped the danger vibe.

That's one of the things I think too many movies don't have, that sense of danger, that anyone can die at any time. They feel too safe and predictable.

 

[L0ngsh0t]

I thought Serenity was fantastic, this was before I was even a big fan of Whedon's work. A friend recommended Firefly and I got that, thought it was okay, not great, the movie blew me away though, it just had this dangerous vibe and you weren't sure if any of the main characters would make it out alive. However, I know everyone won't agree.

As for another great action movie, Children of Men is one, not complete action, it takes a while to get going, but the final 30-45 minutes are really intense. It pretty much feels like you're in the middle of a Call of Duty game. It uses more of a reluctant hero like Die Hard, than a superhero like Aliens, Predator and Terminator though, so I'm not sure it qualifies for this thread. However, it does feel pretty original and has great tension. Having one of the larger, big billed names die so soon really helped the danger vibe.

Well Children of Men is just a fantastic movie, that really fits into no one genre, it is definatley about 3 billion times better than every movie mentioned in this thread...except Aliens, and Terminator, and T2 which it is about 5 times better than

 

[Mad Bull]

Ha! Terminator 2 smokes any movie mentioned in this thread so far,

 

[GhostPoet]

What happened?

I watch Aliens and Alien 3 this weekend for the first time, and being a big fan every major action/thriller/sci-fi-ish adventure movie of the great eighties....what happened. Where have all the Aliens and Predators of the world gone. What happened to new ideas. Why haven't we gotten an action movie like that again...with a plot and characters that take themselves seriously. I mean The Rock was fun, Casino Royal was good escapism...hell X2....but what happened to these truly original, truly strong action thrillers. X-Men, Batman and Superman are just lazy franchises compared to these things. What happened to movies built from the ground up; out of fever dreams from Cameron's head (which is where Terminator came from).

We need more of these movies...and fast, have we just used up all the ideas...

It's because I havn't written it yet.

My story revolves around 2 circus midgets and a young boy who discover a rip in space-time which allows for evil intergalactic aliens to come into our world. They die from the meat sauce Mcdonalds once put into their french fries. But afterwards mutate into another obese lifeform who's main goal is to force humans to eat their pets and then go work in the slave mines for an ancient ore called "tin" Meanwhile, the 2 circus midgets and the young boy are now grown up (except for the midgets) and are forced to take up arms. So with a plunger, a crossbow and a paper clip and two rubber bands they fight off the evil alien horde who is too busy discussing their EVIL, sinister plan to notice their new threat.

The end.

 

[CAH]

Give Hollywood some time.

They'll crank one out soon...another cult classic.

CAH

 

[ShadowBoxing]

Ha! Terminator 2 smokes any movie mentioned in this thread so far,

I disagree. I would say Aliens (the sequel) is better than both Terminator 2 and Children of Men. Aside from being a tad long, Cameron's Aliens ranks up there with LOTRs in my opinion. It's got incredible character arcs, incredible shots (there is one in particular when Hudson is saying "Game over man" while Ripley is in the foreground and the action is going on behind her and Newt. That scene looks so much like a theatre play, it's incredible), I mean the art in that movie. It transcends action. And the characters, everyone of them is so well developed.

 

[Halofan1]

I disagree. I would say Aliens (the sequel) is better than both Terminator 2 and Children of Men. Aside from being a tad long, Cameron's Aliens ranks up there with LOTRs in my opinion. It's got incredible character arcs, incredible shots (there is one in particular when Hudson is saying "Game over man" while Ripley is in the foreground and the action is going on behind her and Newt. That scene looks so much like a theatre play, it's incredible), I mean the art in that movie. It transcends action. And the characters, everyone of them is so well developed.

Children of Men = Aliens > Terminator 2 >>>>>>> LotR.

 

[L0ngsh0t]

Aliens rules, Terminators 1 and 2 rule

But they are no Children of Men

 

[chamber-music]

I am quite looking forward to Danny Boyles new movie Sunshine.
Its supposed to be one of the best Scifi Thrillers in years. Plus a top notch cast as well Cillian Murphy, Chris Evans, Michelle Yeoh and Hiroyuki Sanada.

 

[Mad Bull]

I disagree. I would say Aliens (the sequel) is better than both Terminator 2 and Children of Men. Aside from being a tad long, Cameron's Aliens ranks up there with LOTRs in my opinion. It's got incredible character arcs, incredible shots (there is one in particular when Hudson is saying "Game over man" while Ripley is in the foreground and the action is going on behind her and Newt. That scene looks so much like a theatre play, it's incredible), I mean the art in that movie. It transcends action. And the characters, everyone of them is so well developed.

To each his own. I also really liked Aliens. I suppose "smoke" was a bit too strong a word. I suppose I should've stipulated "except the ones mentioned in the thread title." Either way, I'm a fan of both movies, but T2 happens to be one of my most favorites.

 

[ShadowBoxing]

Aliens rules, Terminators 1 and 2 rule

But they are no Children of Men

I disagree. Aliens might just be close to the perfect movie. It feels as rich as an entire season of a television show and it really has a epic and grandious feeling a movie like Children of Men doesn't have. Even better Aliens could've have been broken up into about three movies...it just keeps you going through and every step of the way seems very well thought out...and just some of the camera angles and shots are really far beyond what you see in movies these days.

 

[L0ngsh0t]

I disagree. Aliens might just be close to the perfect movie. It feels as rich as an entire season of a television show and it really has a epic and grandious feeling a movie like Children of Men doesn't have. Even better Aliens could've have been broken up into about three movies...it just keeps you going through and every step of the way seems very well thought out...and just some of the camera angles and shots are really far beyond what you see in movies these days.

I'm arguing nothing here really cause in the big scheme of things i think Children of Men is like my 22nd favorite movie ever, and Aliens is like 26th, so I'm not really saying its that worse, I did mispeak a bit when I said it was 5 times better

but that epic important feeling Children of Men gave, imo was a bit stronger than the one in Aliens

 

[Bat Attack]

I disagree. I would say Aliens (the sequel) is better than both Terminator 2 and Children of Men. Aside from being a tad long, Cameron's Aliens ranks up there with LOTRs in my opinion. It's got incredible character arcs, incredible shots (there is one in particular when Hudson is saying "Game over man" while Ripley is in the foreground and the action is going on behind her and Newt. That scene looks so much like a theatre play, it's incredible), I mean the art in that movie. It transcends action. And the characters, everyone of them is so well developed.

So true!

 

[CorporalHicks]

t2 is one of the most flawless movies ever made

 

[Rockbottom]

Its not a movie, but its still a masterpiece of story telling, Metal Gear Solid series are just as good as most movies said in this thread really. The effort, story telling, characters, music score, script everything is like a play-able movie.

Got to love MGS.

 

[L0ngsh0t]

t2 is one of the most flawless movies ever made

so is T1 for that matter

even T3 rules as an action movie, just in comparison it lacks a lil

 

[Apocalypso]

Give Hollywood some time.

They'll crank one out soon...another cult classic.

CAH

Don't you mean, "another pathetic remake of a cult classic"?

 

[Bat Attack]

T3 blew so hard.

 

[ShadowBoxing]

I'm arguing nothing here really cause in the big scheme of things i think Children of Men is like my 22nd favorite movie ever, and Aliens is like 26th, so I'm not really saying its that worse, I did mispeak a bit when I said it was 5 times better

but that important feeling Children of Men gave, imo was a bit stronger than the one in Aliens

That might be true. At least Children of Men, because it's set in a not-too-distant future and is post-apocalyptic, certain hits closer to home than a story in a galaxy far far away in a time and place I will never live to see. Despite that the fact that Aliens is Sci-fi, I think it's theme is just as relevant, albeit more "masked" than Children of Men. I.e. you have to really scrape past the surface of Aliens where Children of Men is more straight forward.

 

[The Kid]

T3 blew so hard.

Yes it really shows the difference between Cameron's genius and Mostow's mostow-ness.

Though Nic Stahl was excellent, completely out-classing everyone else in the film besides Ahnuld, and the part at the end in which connner's explains why he'll never give up, felt to me like it came from the real terminator 3 that should have been directed by James Cameron.