IESB: Did this film really open up the door for Watchmen? Just like Sandman, everybody has wanted to do Watchmen forever and it seems like theyve never been able to put it together in a feature film.
ZS: Yeah, you know what, thank god for me, thats one thing, that they havent been able to put it together yet because I feel like were at a good place with it. I think 100% Watchmen is a product of me doing 300 for the studio. They own Watchmen over at Warner Bros. and so when I came back from 300 they said, Hey, we have this other graphic novel lying around, this thing called, uh, Watchmen? Do you know about that? (laughter) And I said, Listen, here is the deal
I knew that at that time when I first came back I said, you know what, I dont want to make that, do I look stupid? Do I look like I would do that to myself? Thats crazy talk. Dont ever mention or bring that up again. And then I thought about it and I thought you know what? Its probably the coolest thing on the planet, to me, really its the coolest thing on the planet. And I thought, if I dont do it someone else will, thats one thing, you know, and thats scary. And my other thing was, what else am I going to do that is better? And really the answer was nothing. I really honestly believe that, I have looked around, thereve been a ton of scripts that have come to Debbie and I and Wes. Weve looked at our little company and weve looked at this that and the other thing and I always go, you know what? Jessica, who is the woman who is my executive over at Warner Bros., she was in the office so I was showing her some of my drawings and some of my ideas for Watchmen and I said, 300 is cool, I think its awesome, Dawn of the Dead I think that is cool too, but ****in Watchmen is the ****! It is so cool! I am yoked and jazzed everyday that I get to work on it. I dont mean to rant...but its
IESB: Its incredible because fans, you know how the fanboy community is
ZS: Oh yeah
IESB: If you wouldve pulled a
and I think that Joel Schumacher is a good director, but if you wouldve pulled a Batman Forever, bat nipples or something horrendous like that they wouldnt allow you to direct it and
ZS: I wouldnt allow
Theyd be right! (laughter)
IESB: But the community is excited, theyre pumped. They are happy to see that you are directing this. Some directors will dabble a little bit in this genre but then they go back and do this little indie or artsie films but then you have certain directors that get into the genre and they stick with it, Sam Raimi is an example, he just loves the genre, is that something that you are planning in doing? You like this so you are going to this because you enjoy it?
ZS: You know, I guess so. Its what I want to see so its what I want to do. So, I guess in that way, yeah. I mean I dont think about it as a certain genre per se but I think about it as its a cool project, you know. There is a pile of them at the house and I just go, you know what, no thats all crap, I should just do ****in Watchmen, its much better. So, have people offered me other genre, graphic novels, comic book and things of that nature? Sure. But are any of them as cool? No. Will I continue to do genre after Watchmen? Probably, just because its what I like, you know. The thing that I am writing with my buddy right now is basically in the same world.
IESB: 300 has existed, people respect it in the community. Watchmen, people consider it one of the greatest graphic novels ever, is there a man in tights traditional, you know a Batman, Superman, Spider-man type of character that you would really like to tackle?
ZS: I dont think so, not right now, maybe after but not yet. Someone came in and pitched me Green Lantern and I have been pitched a couple other things. But when you are deep in Watchmen its hard to
you know what I am saying?
IESB: Think about anything else.
ZS: Its really is hard to think about anything else, especially with, we were just talking about, just a second ago, we were talking about Manhattan as just how, you see Dr. Manhattan 100 feet tall walking through the jungles of Vietnam burning the Viet-Con with a couple Hueys off his shoulders, you know. Its hard to, because its political and its beautiful and its all the things that Fantastic Four could never do, they would never send the Fantastic Four to Iraq, you know, thats crazy talk. But in the Watchmen world thats real.
IESB: Do you know how you are setting it up? Is the script completed, its done?
ZS: I have a draft of the script that I like a lot, not to say that we wont work on it more. You are always trying to make it better, the basic concept is there. We are trying to get more money from marketing, to shoot
we wrote a Black Freighter script that basically we would shoot at the same time and maybe with DVD, because basically the script is designed to take the Black Freighter, you can stick the Black Freighter story into the movie, all the bumpers are there, maybe a special release in the theaters. It would probably make the movie 3 hours long. The movie right now is about 2 ½ hours long so
IESB: You think that it will be a rated R for sure?
ZS: I dont know how to make it PG-13, you know, I really dont. I think it would be cool if it was PG-13 just because of how it will change, like when I was 15 I wanted to see that movie but Im thinking that if it is Rated R, a fifteen year old will get in there anyway. Theyll find it. (Laughter) You know what I am saying? I mean really, I think I saw Excalibur when I was fifteen, you know the original John Boormans Excalibur, I think I was younger and they had some rough stuff in that movie.
IESB: Same thing with 300, theres going to be a ton of kids getting into that.
ZS: Absolutely, yeah absolutely (laughter) How sexy was that one, the original Excalibur, have you seen that film?
IESB: Not in years.
ZS: Theres a good sex scene in that one, with the Knight and hes in his armor still and, its good
IESB: You know whats good about the love making scene in your film, they were beautifully shot, it wasnt a throw away T and A shot or anything, it was great. Going back to Watchmen, do you know where you are shooting? Are you going to do a virtual studio type thing?
ZS: I dont know where I am shooting, Im not gonna do a virtual studio, Im gonna do a mix. You know, Mars and Antarctica will probably be done blue screen but then wed probably try and build a big New York City backdrop somewhere and recreate our Watchmen version of New York City. Ive generated tons of art and Im starting to, Ive done a couple frames of Rorschach and Ive started to do some tests of Dr. Manhattan and that is fun, its fun to try and figure that out.
IESB: Casting, how soon?
ZS: Soon, I think, Ive been meeting with a lot of people, a lot of cool, cool people.
IESB: Are you going A-list?
ZS: My feeling about it is, with Watchmen you can get actors, I believe, that would never make a comic book movie. Because Watchmen is cool, you know what Im saying? (laughter) Youd never get Brad Pitt in tights in a normal movie, and Im not saying hes any of the guys, Im actually not talking to him, but hes the kind of guy you could get because those Oceans guys think they are pretty cool. But, theyd be embarrassed to be in Fantastic Four, as they should. (laughter) I dont mean to dig on Fantastic Four, its just so
so, bubble gum, I cant take it.
IESB: (laughter) So the past few comic book adaptations which is the one you really dug?
ZS: I guess Batman Begins is one of my favorites, of recent time, you know, I just, none of them really, has there been an R-rated graphic novel, like comic book?
IESB: V For Vendetta, I guess
ZS: V, I guess, is the only one but, I dont know if it counts 100%, its not superheroes. It would be cool, an R-rated superhero movie, thats just cool, I dont care what it is. Wolverine would be cool if it was rated R.
IESB: If Fox allows it.
ZS: Theres no way, no ****in way that movie is going to be rated-R. I read the script, its cool but theres no way. They asked me about it but I just said, I dont know. That would be a thing that, if I didnt have Watchmen, I would be interested in Wolverine.
IESB: Lauren Schuler Donner, we talked to her, and she said they were looking for a lot of different people to direct and Hugh Jackman said they were looking at some great people to direct this thing. Was it recent talk, them wanting you to do it?
ZS: It was right before I went to go do 300, I had a brief dance with X-Men 3.
IESB: Really? No one heard that did they?
ZS: No, that was kept on the down low. I had a dinner with Donner and Hugh, they were psyched about it and they thought it was a really great meeting. And I had a meeting at Fox, where I said, it was funny because I didnt know the plot at all, and I said, the awesome thing about X-Men is that theyre the only superheroes who dont want to be superheroes, thats cool. And I said I like that. And they said, oh my god you know our movie is about that they have this antidote. And I said, oh thats cool, you know, thats neat. But I just said, Look, the deal is, I am doing this thing called 300 and I really dont want to do anything else. And they said, Really? Its X-Men, its awesome. And I said, I know its awesome but, 300 is kick ass and I cant even describe to you how hard core it is.
IESB: Its Frank Miller man
ZS: Yeah! You know, the difference is, its one thing to do a character movie because they, I believe Hollywood is happy to take a character and make a movie out of it. What they dont like is graphic novels, it presupposes that the graphic novelist knows how to make a movie better than they do and they dont like that. Theyd rather take a character and say, Ill show you how to make a movie
blah blah blah, thats whats cool about Chris [Nolan] with Batman Begins where he tried to study the mythology of what makes Batman.
IESB: So shooting in Australia, Vancouver, Toronto, here?
ZS: Yeah, someplace like that, no here, they cant afford that. Id love to shoot it here theres just no way.
IESB: So are we talking Superman Returns budget?
ZS: No, no, no. If the movie ends up being R-rated, which it probably will be, you cant. They wont spend the money. You gotta
IESB: Probably trim it down to $100?
ZS: Yeah, it will be below $100 for sure, but the cast will just have to work for cheap, but thats just
IESB: But a movie like Watchmen, I think they will
So you have a cool little Watchmen tattoo coming up soon? (laughter)
ZS: I dont have one no
Jude Law has one you know. Jude Law has the Rorschach tattoo.
IESB: Hmm...any possibility of that angle?
ZS: I dont know, well see, not as Rorschach, but he could be in the movie.
IESB: That would be awesome.
ZS: Well see. There are two guys that have, that are, youd be surprised, Ive been meeting with people and you like, really, you like Watchmen? Thats awesome!