First Avenger Should Hitler be in First Avenger: Captain America?

[roach]

Hitler should be the Emperor to the Red Skull's Darth Vader

 

[Infinity9999x]

Hitler should be the Emperor to the Red Skull's Darth Vader

Agreed.

 

[Triad]

I'd like him to make a physical appearance or two, but I really don't think that he should be a integral role in the movie. Most of his relationship to the Red Skull could be done in flashback or implied by dialog.

 

[catintheengine]

I'd like him to make a physical appearance or two, but I really don't think that he should be a integral role in the movie. Most of his relationship to the Red Skull could be done in flashback or implied by dialog.

I agree. Sort of how it was done in Raiders of the Lost Ark.

The way I look at it is this: Red Skull is like Hitler's right hand, and Baron Zemo is the sword the hand holds.

 

[[A]]

If you put Hitler in this movie, you gotta make it dead serious -- you can't have Hitler in a light summer actioner..

 

[Wesley Dodds]

If you put Hitler in this movie, you gotta make it dead serious -- you can't have Hitler in a light summer actioner..

AHEM!

 

[[A]]

oh

 

[Young Superman]

I'm for the use of archival footage.

 

[R_Hythlodeus]

If you put Hitler in this movie, you gotta make it dead serious -- you can't have Hitler in a light summer actioner..

 

[[A]]

He's so.......pink

 

[Rage]

It seems like Hitler is popping up in more and more movies all the time. I do like how he was treated in Valkyrie where he is a physical presence in the movie, but doesn't monopolize screen time.

 

[Invisiboy]

The famous cover, as well as the issue it introduced, were created by Jewish writers and artists who hated the man who was slaughtering their families overseas, so his inclusion in itself would take an idiot to be construed as anti-Semitic. However, as mentioned, it isn't necessary to make him a major figure.

 

[roach]

The famous cover, as well as the issue it introduced, were created by Jewish writers and artists who hated the man who was slaughtering their families overseas, so his inclusion in itself would take an idiot to be construed as anti-Semitic. However, as mentioned, it isn't necessary to make him a major figure.

partially correct...noone knew what Hitler was doing to the jews towards the end of the war. Cap was created before America entered the war

 

[Master Blaster]

Certainly! Make Hitler a secondary villain to the Red Skull!

 

[Timstuff]

Propaganda played a big part in WW2, so is it too far a stretch, to think that cap could come across a captain america comic book featuring this scene and chuckle to himself. I would like to see hitler featured in the film, but i agree about the punching scene might be going a bit far, I would rather see him be responsible for the red skull then have the skull eventually grow disillusioned with the third reich in general and by the end of the film have a confrontation between the skull and hitler. Where skull has focused more of his time on going after cap and less on winning the war.

The actual Captain America comic books should appear in the movie (although obviously its release date and certain elements (like Steve Rogers, discussion of the SSS) would would be different in the movie-verse). It would be very interesting to see some convergent history between the Captain America movie-verse and the real life history of Captain America, because during WW2 Cap was a pop culture icon who helped America's people and soldiers feel good about themselves, and in the movie that should still hold true-- except in the movie, Cap is actually a real life person, not just a character created by Marvel, and seeing a soldier in his bunk reading Captain America Comics #1 would be a nice touch.

As for Hitler, I don't think it's really necessary for him to have a major role in the film. He could make an appearance, but for the most part I thing it should focus on Cap vs. Red Skull.

 

[Webhead2006]

I agree i dont see why their couldnt be a small role/cameo of hitler in the film. Maybe a scene with red skull or just in a newsreel footage.

 

[Timstuff]

I agree. I think Hitler's presence should be felt, but they shouldn't make it feel like they're building up to "Captain America 2: Rise of the Hatemonger."

 

[NEXUS 6]

Certainly! Make Hitler a secondary villain to the Red Skull!

Featuring Hitler would not be disrepectful. Making him a lackey to Red Skull would be.

 

[Webhead2006]

well what if you have it hitler is still the leader in charge of the nazi's and red skull is just some under leader guy for his crazy occult/alien stuff.

 

[Timstuff]

Hitler should be in the movie to about the same capacity as in Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade. I don't think he should be an actual secondary villain though, because taking a historical person and trying to blend them into a cast of fictional characters seems silly. It'd seem like if they made a superhero out of Abraham Lincoln and then had him join the Justice League.

 

[Infinity9999x]

Hitler should be in the movie to about the same capacity as in Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade. I don't think he should be an actual secondary villain though, because taking a historical person and trying to blend them into a cast of fictional characters seems silly. It'd seem like if they made a superhero out of Abraham Lincoln and then had him join the Justice League.

As Roach said above, have Hitler in essence be the "emperor" to the Red Skull's "Darth Vader," but have him have a bit less screen time then the Emperor did in Return of the Jedi. Establish his presence, but you don't even need to have him and Cap meet.

 

[roach]

Actually I would have them meet and recreate the cover of Captain America number one as Cap gives him a knuckle sandwich...but the main villain should be the Skull

 

[Infinity9999x]

Actually I would have them meet and recreate the cover of Captain America number one as Cap gives him a knuckle sandwich...but the main villain should be the Skull

I'd want them to be careful to not make it too cheesy...because honestly, the 1940's were a cheesy time, and I certainly do not want everything they did to be recreated today. Some things should not be brought back, and some of the 1940's war propaganda is one of them.

Now, I wouldn't mind if it's done in Inglorious Basterds style, in which Cap is captured but still manages to get a good hit on Hitler (like Brad Pitt's character headbutting Waltz's character), but if Cap is free, and is face to face with Hitler long enough to give him a good punch, then I'm going to be wondering..."why don't you kill the guy?"

I mean, we've established that (in 1940) he's the fastest, quickest, and strongest person in the world, so he should have no problem offing Hitler if he has enough time to punch him.

But, as long as it's done right, I won't mind.

 

[roach]

this just popped into my mind...and wont be like the scene im writing for my Cap fan fic.......
Red Skull launches a missle at Washington DC. Cap and Bucky are too late to stop the launch. If they can get back to Freedom's Flight(Caps plane in WW2) they may have a chance to knock it out of the sky. Cap and Bucky race down a corridor of the Nazi stronghold and turn a corner as the come face to face with Hitler himself surrounded by several important Nazi generals. Every one is stunned as seconds slowly tick off the clock. Cap slugs Hitler and smiles at his generals as they quicky turn around and run back the way they came......

 

[roach]

I'd want them to be careful to not make it too cheesy...because honestly, the 1940's were a cheesy time, and I certainly do not want everything they did to be recreated today. Some things should not be brought back, and some of the 1940's war propaganda is one of them.

Now, I wouldn't mind if it's done in Inglorious Basterds style, in which Cap is captured but still manages to get a good hit on Hitler (like Brad Pitt's character headbutting Waltz's character), but if Cap is free, and is face to face with Hitler long enough to give him a good punch, then I'm going to be wondering..."why don't you kill the guy?"

I mean, we've established that (in 1940) he's the fastest, quickest, and strongest person in the world, so he should have no problem offing Hitler if he has enough time to punch him.

But, as long as it's done right, I won't mind.

yeah but also lest not forget that in 1940 assassination was not a thing encouraged in war