The Flash The Flash Season 1, Episode 3 "Things You Can't Outrun" General Discussion

[The Caped Knight]

Seriously either their deliberately throwing a red-hearing that Wells is Zoom or as we all suspected from the first episode he is in fact Zoom - The Reverse Flash.

 

[Lantern Venom]

I really liked the facial blur that Barry did to disguise himself from his dad. It's details like that which make fictional constructs work.

 

[haephestus]

I really liked the facial blur that Barry did to disguise himself from his dad. It's details like that which make fictional constructs work.

I agree. It somewhat strains credibility when loved ones don't recognise someone that they've known for 20 or more years, simply because they're wearing a mask which covers the upper portion of their head.

 

[Human Torch]

TBH,I didn't really think it was necessary at that point.He was a good enough distance away,he was between a sheet of glass and he had a light behind him to obscure him.I doubt looking up for literally a split second during a tense moment,would've made a big enough impact on Henry to recognize him.

 

[Comics]

TBH,I didn't really think it was necessary at that point.He was a good enough distance away,he was between a sheet of glass and he had a light behind him to obscure him.I doubt looking up for literally a split second during a tense moment,would've made a big enough impact on Henry to recognize him.

It was to let the audience catch up.

 

[Dark Raven]

I get the feeling that, if you hadn't read any of the Flash comics or weren't familiar with his background very much, you might actually get the distinct feeling they're trying to set up Caitlin as Barry's love interest rather than Ivy. Ivy seems to have more of a sisterly vibe to her. Caitlin falls more into the mould of someone who is guarded at first (quite understandably because of her loss) but then opens up to Barry.

I don't think the writers should push Ivy on us at all costs. That's what it felt like with Lana Lang in the first few seasons of Smallville. I don't know if they're going to push Laurel on us in Arrow, but it seems the more natural relationship there is Ollie and Felicity. Maybe here, the more natural path might be Barry and Caitlin. I don't know. It's not like there are the same sparks flying between her and Barry that there are with Ollie and Felicity, but partly because she is still grieving and her heart is still with someone else.

BTW, Mist's human form looked scarier than his gaseous form, like Nosferatu. Is he meant to look like that?

 

[the dmg]

The last scene with Barry and his dad was gold.Three episodes in a row with some real heartwarming stuff.I never really figured this series would hit all these emotions notes like they do.

Yeah...hit me right in the feels.

 

[Frodo]

I get the feeling that, if you hadn't read any of the Flash comics or weren't familiar with his background very much, you might actually get the distinct feeling they're trying to set up Caitlin as Barry's love interest rather than Ivy. Ivy seems to have more of a sisterly vibe to her. Caitlin falls more into the mould of someone who is guarded at first (quite understandably because of her loss) but then opens up to Barry.

I don't think the writers should push Ivy on us at all costs. That's what it felt like with Lana Lang in the first few seasons of Smallville. I don't know if they're going to push Laurel on us in Arrow, but it seems the more natural relationship there is Ollie and Felicity. Maybe here, the more natural path might be Barry and Caitlin. I don't know. It's not like there are the same sparks flying between her and Barry that there are with Ollie and Felicity, but partly because she is still grieving and her heart is still with someone else.

I would agree that they should go where the chemistry is as opposed to forcing actors together who don't click. Lana and Clark were pretty bad together on Smallville and Oliver and Laurel really don't have any chemistry on Arrow. They're having the same problem on Gotham with Jim and Barbara.

I can understand wanting to stay true to the comics, but sometimes when you cast the best actors for the given parts they won't have any chemistry , as is the case with the examples above. I think Barry and Caitlin are more likely to have romantic chemistry because he's the kind of goofy lovable nerd and that would appeal to someone like her who is a bit more reserved and takes herself a bit seriously. He may end up bringing her out of her shell a bit. Plus I think there's stronger chemistry between the actors.

 

[W/ Great Power]

Finally watched it. Superb once again.

I especially loved the closing of the show with the line about pain.

I feared that the show might prove to be unworthy in the first few episodes, but I end up being wrong every time. I'm confident with what they have going now.

 

[Verick808]

I'd be upset if Snow didn't turn into a psycho villain. Sorry. I'm okay with Iris. I think she was introduced too early but if she gets a job as a reporter it would give her a reason to stick around the station. The fact that she's Joe's daughter and a friend of Barry's as well as dating a detective gives her plenty of relevance to the show without having to force ridiculous plots on us. Besides the dating plot we already have. Also Iris is just too important to the Flash mythology. Their family is too important to the mythology.

 

[coluanprime]

Did anyone else notice the movie theatre was showing Blue Devil 2 and the Rita Farr story?

 

[DigificWriter]

Lana and Clark were pretty bad together on Smallville and Oliver and Laurel really don't have any chemistry on Arrow. They're having the same problem on Gotham with Jim and Barbara.

I have to say that I disagree with all 3 of these statements, but to each their own, as it were.

I'd be upset if Snow didn't turn into a psycho villain.

Why?

Personally, I don't see a need for them to make Caitlin a villain because I'm not sure that the loss of her as Barry's "female confidante" (the same role filled by Felicity on Arrow) wouldn't end up hurting the show in the long run.

 

[Frodo]

I have to say that I disagree with all 3 of these statements, but to each their own, as it were.

I'd really have to disagree with you there. Three couples really don't have chemistry romantically speaking. They're all good actors but romantic chemistry, not so much. On paper , it works and for the story I can believe them but as far as the actors go no way. But to each is own.

 

[Verick808]

Because Snow is a Villain. I want her to become a villain. If they didn't want her to become a villain they should have made her somebody else. Should Captain Cold join up with them too? Barry has enough people to confide in already and I don't see why he specifically needs one with female parts which, being a CW show, can only end up turning into a angsty love triangle anyway.

As for Felicity? Diggle was a better confidante in the first place. Mostly she just cries and makes him feel worse. I'm kind of hoping she gets written off. Maybe she decides to run off and change the world somewhere with Ray. I liked her at first but now she has "CW drama" written on her forehead.

 

[Human Torch]

I'm guessing Caitlin is going to be the Felicity of the show.People are going to want to see her with Barry,despite some die hards saying Iris is the 'fated' one he has to be with.Laurel/Felicity all over again.

 

[Dark Raven]

Yeah, if Caitlin becomes more popular, she is naturally going to be shipped with Barry. She kind of seems more like the lead female because she's involved more in the main plot than Iris, who just gets into Laurel/ Lana territory again with finding something for her to do.

And Iris practically grew up as Barry's sister. Wouldn't he find that weird? If they wanted Iris, they should've introduced her much later. Didn't they learn with Laurel? With Lana, of course, it was okay, because she was never destined to be Clark's true love, but of course, if it had been Lois introduced at the start of Smallville instead of Lana, things might've been quite different as she too could've felt rather boring and forced.

 

[ArkhamMadness]

I just finished reading The Flash Rebirth and at the end they put Thawne in prison and in a cell next to him is Hunter Zolomon in a wheelchair. He talks to Thawne through the cell door and offers him a proposition to work together on an idea he has.

Sounds to me like this could be a possible direction the show is taking and Thawne and Wells (Zolomon) are working together. Would be hilarious if Eddie was dating Iris in just one of his many attempts at spiting Barry.

 

[Verick808]

Lana and Clark actually had okay chemistry. They just wrote that relationship unbelievably stupid and Lana just sort of lingered for years after Lois was introduced. I don't think most people hated het from the start.

I don't think Barry ever considered Iris as a sister. Its probably some crush he will get over soon and he will date someone else for a while. Hopefully not Snow. And yeah. It is just like Thawne to bang Iris for no other reason than to spite Barry.

 

[DigificWriter]

IF that's the direction the writers are headed in, I don't think Thawne has become the "Reverse Flash" yet.

Having said that, it would be interesting to see the writers go the route of "he's already the Reverse Flash and is just screwing with Barry by dating Iris", mainly because of what it would add to the arcs for Barry, Iris, and Joe (especially the latter two).

 

[W/ Great Power]

Did anyone else notice the movie theatre was showing Blue Devil 2 and the Rita Farr story?

I caught it, thought that was pretty neat of them to sneak in there.

 

[Verick808]

IF that's the direction the writers are headed in, I don't think Thawne has become the "Reverse Flash" yet.

Having said that, it would be interesting to see the writers go the route of "he's already the Reverse Flash and is just screwing with Barry by dating Iris", mainly because of what it would add to the arcs for Barry, Iris, and Joe (especially the latter two).

Future Thawne could have set his past self up with Iris. Seriously, what are the chances that he would be right there when Iris's bag was stolen in episode 1?

 

[DigificWriter]

Given that this show was spawned from Arrow - a series that is all about showing the origins of many of the characters it's focused on - I think we're far more likely to see Thawne's evolution into the "Reverse Flash" - if he indeed does become that character - than we are to have him already BE the "Reverse Flash" and be 'hiding in plain sight', as it were, while he waits for the perfect chance to strike at Barry.

We'll see, though.

 

[Lencho01]

Thought this one was ok. Really liked how Barry vibrated his head. I agree with the comments of Iris and Eddie's relationship being boring thus far.

 

[Mr.X]

Given that this show was spawned from Arrow - a series that is all about showing the origins of many of the characters it's focused on - I think we're far more likely to see Thawne's evolution into the "Reverse Flash" - if he indeed does become that character - than we are to have him already BE the "Reverse Flash" and be 'hiding in plain sight', as it were, while he waits for the perfect chance to strike at Barry.

We'll see, though.

I agree with this. I think the actor who plays Eddie even says there's something coming up that changes his character or something to that effect, anyone else read that or know what I'm referring to?

 

[Mr.X]

I'd be upset if Snow didn't turn into a psycho villain. Sorry. I'm okay with Iris. I think she was introduced too early but if she gets a job as a reporter it would give her a reason to stick around the station. The fact that she's Joe's daughter and a friend of Barry's as well as dating a detective gives her plenty of relevance to the show without having to force ridiculous plots on us. Besides the dating plot we already have. Also Iris is just too important to the Flash mythology. Their family is too important to the mythology.

They already have Captain Cold though. I don't think they would need two ice villains would they?