Colin Trevorrow Is Episode IX's Director

[dude stannis]

Yep. A competent, unexciting journeyman.

 

[ThePhantasm]

You're being far too kind to Ratner and McG with that definition

 

[Consona]

JW was definitely not better than Terminator Salvation or X-men 3, for example.

 

[vinsanity]

JW was definitely not better than Terminator Salvation or X-men 3, for example.

In your opinion.

I like Trevorrow's work on JW. Not perfect but it got the job done. I have faith he'll do his best for EPIX.

Unfortunately I'm afraid this thread is going to be a broken record for the next 3.5 years, a kinda like the Hobbit thread with the same group of people saying the same thing ad-nauseum

 

[Snow Queen]

Getting the job done might be fine for some films, but coming after great directors like Abrams and Johnson, I don't think it's hard to see why some are disappointed.

 

[vinsanity]

Getting the job done might be fine for some films, but coming after great directors like Abrams and Johnson, I don't think it's hard to see why some are disappointed.

I don't deny Trevorrow is not as good as JJ or Rian Johnson, but I don't think is on McG, Paul WS Anderson or Brett Ratner's level like I read before which is complete nonsense.

I'm pretty sure with the material that he has now, he'll make a great EP IX. Or maybe thats just me that I prefer to be optimistic than being all doom and gloom when is still 3.5 years left to go.

 

[flickchick85]

Trevorrow is middle of the road, imo, which I'll agree is far from ideal, but with a good script he can make a good movie. And I believe as long as the others are involved there's a good chance he'll be working with a good script, so I'm not too worried.

 

[vinsanity]

Trevorrow is middle of the road, imo, which I'll agree is far from ideal, but with a good script he can make a good movie. And I believe as long as the others are involved there's a good chance he'll be working with a good script, so I'm not too worried.

100% agree

 

[ThePhantasm]

Trevorrow is middle of the road, imo, which I'll agree is far from ideal, but with a good script he can make a good movie. And I believe as long as the others are involved there's a good chance he'll be working with a good script, so I'm not too worried.

Exactly. The negative reaction to his hiring is way overblown.

 

[Solidus]

Getting the job done might be fine for some films, but coming after great directors like Abrams and Johnson, I don't think it's hard to see why some are disappointed.

Well, I think it's too early just to negate Colin. I still think some of the retroactive "dislike" for Safety came more after JW. Not saying that is the case with you, it just seems I notice more of the "lack of style" comments after JW. I did not think JW was superb, I thought it was meh. But I think Safety really showed some of his talent that he is still working on. His next film sounds really interesting and may show off more of it.

I can see why some may feel it's a step down, but some act as if we have fallen of a cliff. I do trust Kathy in what she is doing when she is finding talent. I truly doubt it was because JW made a lot of money, SW already is showing it don't need that with TFA.

However, I'm not saying some cannot have concerns, but I see his talent, it's just sad that JW did not really highlight any of it.

Trevorrow is middle of the road, imo, which I'll agree is far from ideal, but with a good script he can make a good movie. And I believe as long as the others are involved there's a good chance he'll be working with a good script, so I'm not too worried.

Agreed.

Exactly. The negative reaction to his hiring is way overblown.

Agreed.

Now you and Parker have to fight for my love for Deathmatch! I'm very conflicted

 

[ThePhantasm]

Now you and Parker have to fight for my love for Deathmatch! I'm very conflicted

Parker can't fight, unfortunately... he's temp-banned. Its basically me vs. Black Narc now.

(you can still vote for Parker though, in his absence, if you want)

 

[BatLobster]

I think the thing that feels somewhat suspect about his hiring is it's hard to imagine him getting this gig if not for Jurassic World overachieving at the box office. I'm not saying that's definitely it, but it's just hard for me to imagine this happening if JW was the same exact film it was and instead did "solid" numbers. I could be wrong, but it's hard to shake that feeling. I actually liked Jurassic World, btw, for what it was. But it does kinda feel like he got hired based on the response to that film, not the actual film itself.

At the same time, it's the only film of his I've seen so far so I'm still not entirely sure what kind of filmmaker he is. Jurassic World is pretty much designed to be a big, dumb, broad blockbuster and that's exactly what it is.

Overall, I'm not super-worried about the quality of the movie yet (let's see how Episodes VII and VIII are before we start worrying about that), but on some level it does just feel like a missed opportunity for someone that is perhaps more deserving of the gig.

 

[Solidus]

I think the thing that feels somewhat suspect about his hiring is it's hard to imagine him getting this gig if not for Jurassic World overachieving at the box office. I'm not saying that's definitely it, but it's just hard for me to imagine this happening if JW was the same exact film it was and instead did "solid" numbers. I could be wrong, but it's hard to shake that feeling. I actually liked Jurassic World, btw, for what it was. But it does kinda feel like he got hired based on the response to that film, not the actual film itself.

At the same time, it's the only film of his I've seen so far so I'm still not entirely sure what kind of filmmaker he is. Jurassic World is pretty much designed to be a big, dumb, broad blockbuster and that's exactly what it is.

Overall, I'm not super-worried about the quality of the movie yet (let's see how Episodes VII and VIII are before we start worrying about that), but on some level it does just feel like a missed opportunity for someone that is perhaps more deserving of the gig.

It's hard to ever fully know especially with some of the connections. But looking at KK's hiring of all the other films, I think the trend is that money means nothing. Rian has never had a Blockbuster and yet he will easily be making a film that breaks 1.5 billion/1 billion with ease.

Kathy seems to have more on her mind then "Did it make money" I mean look at the craze (that many of us figured but now people are acting like they always knew TFA would be huge...anywho that's a different topic) TFA has created. SW can stand on its own. May have the connection with her husband helped, possibly. But looking at how KK has chosen film makers for the other SW films I don't know if that is the case, or purely the case.

 

[BatLobster]

It's hard to ever fully know especially with some of the connections. But looking at KK's hiring of all the other films, I think the trend is that money means nothing. Rian has never had a Blockbuster and yet he will easily be making a film that breaks 1.5 billion/1 billion with ease.

Kathy seems to have more on her mind then "Did it make money" I mean look at the craze (that many of us figured but now people are acting like they always knew TFA would be huge...anywho that's a different topic) TFA has created. SW can stand on its own. May have the connection with her husband helped, possibly. But looking at how KK has chosen film makers for the other SW films I don't know if that is the case, or purely the case.

I think it's less about the money, more about the response. To me it feels like the thinking could be something like.... "Colin really connected with the audience with this movie. It tugged nostalgia strings for old fans, was seen as a return to form for the franchise, and introduced a whole new generation of fans to that world." Sounds like the exact type of response they're going to want to get with the new saga films, no?

All of which is absolutely true btw, whether we like it or not. Jurassic World connected with people, and for as many folks who aren't crazy about it, I think it did strike the right cord with the GA overall. I'm in the camp of being someone that walked out of it feeling very entertained and satisfied, while also knowing it was far from a "great" movie. And it's entirely possibly that KK is on the side of the people who loved the film and sees it as a movie that was wildly successful in achieving what is was aiming for. Plus, the Spielberg connection.

 

[Solidus]

I think it's less about the money, more about the response. To me it feels like the thinking could be something like.... "Colin really connected with the audience with this movie. It tugged nostalgia strings for old fans, was seen as a return to form for the franchise, and introduced a whole new generation of fans to that world." Sounds like the exact type of response they're going to want to get with the new saga films, no?

All of which is absolutely true btw, whether we like it or not. Jurassic World connected with people, and for as many folks who aren't crazy about it, I think it did strike the right cord with the GA overall. I'm in the camp of being someone that walked out of it feeling very entertained and satisfied, while also knowing it was far from a "great" movie. And it's entirely possibly that KK is on the side of the people who loved the film and sees it as a movie that was wildly successful in achieving what is was aiming for. Plus, the Spielberg connection.

Yeah but he has another piece of work outside of JW. And I bet you Kathy saw that as well. To claim that SW, ST is going for pure nostalgia is still just something of a word I think some throw around too much with SW. Again, any comic book film, any sequel you can argue the word of nostalgia. I think people seem to be missing the point that these new SW films are going back to the spirit of what made the films loved in the first place.

But yes there is great connections including Kathy's husband ect. But I would bet there are many other directors that have just as strong connections to her or Disney (like Jon Favreau) but again I think there is more to her selection process than that. Of course connections always help. I think she may see more in him.

 

[BatLobster]

Yeah but he has another piece of work outside of JW. And I bet you Kathy saw that as well. To claim that SW, ST is going for pure nostalgia is still just something of a word I think some throw around too much with SW. Again, any comic book film, any sequel you can argue the word of nostalgia. I think people seem to be missing the point that these new SW films are going back to the spirit of what made the films loved in the first place.

But yes there is great connections including Kathy's husband ect. But I would bet there are many other directors that have just as strong connections to her or Disney (like Jon Favreau) but again I think there is more to her selection process than that. Of course connections always help. I think she may see more in him.

I didn't say it was only about nostalgia though- I specifically said it was one component, along with the movie being seen as a return to form and introducing it to a new generation of fans. I mean, that's the sweet spot right there for any 20+ year old franchise. No way around it.

That's not to say they want Colin to just exploit nostalgia for nostalgia's sake with SW, but the fact is he successfully resurrected a franchise and gave it a new multi-generational appeal. Multi-generational appeal is exactly why Disney even bought Star Wars in the first place.

I'm sure she does see more in him, and of course she's seen all of his work. I mean, I don't think she would hire somebody she didn't believe in. We just won't know if that belief was fully justified until 2019. The point I was making though is I think Jurassic World is kind of a film that transcended itself in a way because of the connection it made with the audience. I felt the same way about the first Avengers film to be honest. As a film, I really thought it was nothing special and I thought it was a movie where the charm wore off more with each viewing. But, I can't argue that Whedon did something right with that first movie because that movie sure as hell connected with a LOT of people in the right way.

That said, I'm glad Colin got this job over Joss.

 

[Octoberist]

I'm waiting for his next film to make a better call on Colin's style. I loved "Saftey" but it's also what I call an 'easy light indie movie'. It wasn't like a 'Brick' or 'Memento'.

I didn't like Jurassic World at all. Funny enough, at first I thought it was okay till I started to think about it more..and then I ended disliking it. Espically the horrific death of that girl.

 

[ThePhantasm]

Was Joss even being considered? He'd be awful for Star Wars. Keep him away.

 

[Snow Queen]

Was Joss even being considered? He'd be awful for Star Wars. Keep him away.

Hopefully not. He'd be wrong for an episode. A spinoff if anything but I'd rather he be kept as far away as possible.

 

[flickchick85]

I'd be fine with Joss doing one of the anthology movies, but I agree I wouldn't have wanted him on one of the main episodes.

 

[dude stannis]

Joss pitched for Ep IX, but wanted final cut, $20 million and control of the marketing, so they laughed him out of the building. Francis Lawrence then pitched for IX, but I guess in a battle between mediocrity, mediocrity will win.

 

[Gianakin_]

But, dude, at least he's not awful.

 

[dude stannis]

Awful implies an entertaining trainwreck, I'd rather that, than something that aspired to be middle of the road and succeeded. I don't want Star Wars resting on it's laurels with lazy Age of Ultron level films.

You're an actual director (Plus the most fascinating person to discuss SW with), so I know you completely understand how frustrating it is for something beloved for you to be given to someone who doesn't seem to have any passion for it. Let me put it this way, I wouldn't want him doing an Expendables movie and those are (entertainingly) terrible.

 

[Gianakin_]

Well, I wouldn't go that far. Terminator Genisys was just a trainwreck. But I do agree. I'd rather Episode IX be treated like the Prequels rather than Iron Man 2, Thor The Dark World, MoS, TASM, etc etc. It's just not f**king right.

 

[dude stannis]

If CTrev puts as much effort into IX as Snyder put into MoS, even if IX is awful I'll give him a pass for trying.