Amber Heard IS Mera

While I dont see how they could not rule in her favor for majority of it, he lost his UK battle, she lost her US battle. So neither wins with WB.

Nah, i think Depp has won...the publics opinion on Heard changed so strongly in the recent weeks while people hail him as the innocent victim who got justice.

That both were abusive to each other, seems to matter little at this point.
And i guess that is what it was about in the end.

Ones career is damaged, maybe beyond repair, the other ones has been healed somewhat...happened both times.

It certainly made things harder for both male and female absue victims i think, so abuse victims lost either way with this IMO.
 
Nah, i think Depp has won...the publics opinion on Heard changed so strongly in the recent weeks while people hail him as the innocent victim who got justice.

That both were abusive to each other, seems to matter little at this point.
And i guess that is what it was about in the end.

Ones career is damaged, maybe beyond repair, the other ones has been healed somewhat...happened both times.

It certainly made things harder for both male and female absue victims i think, so abuse victims lost either way with this IMO.

But was Depp really abusive towards her? The trial proved that those photos that Heard had of herself were manipulated. AH's team couldn't prove anything except for mean (and, admittedly, pretty extreme) messages about her he sent to his buddies.
 
But was Depp really abusive towards her? The trial proved that those photos that Heard had of herself were manipulated. AH's team couldn't prove anything except for mean (and, admittedly, pretty extreme) messages about her he sent to his buddies.

Abuse can be verbal too, emotional abuse is still abuse, but im not too familiar with the case to be honest so i dont know how their actions compare.

Its the horrible thing with Abuse, it can exist on so many levels and doesnt need to be physical to hurt a person.
 
Abuse can be verbal too, emotional abuse is still abuse, but im not too familiar with the case to be honest so i dont know how their actions compare.

Its the horrible thing with Abuse, it can exist on so many levels and doesnt need to be physical to hurt a person.

Every bit of evidence uncovered suggested she was mentally, verbally and physically abusive towards him, not the other way around.
 
Nah, i think Depp has won...the publics opinion on Heard changed so strongly in the recent weeks while people hail him as the innocent victim who got justice.

That both were abusive to each other, seems to matter little at this point.
And i guess that is what it was about in the end.

Ones career is damaged, maybe beyond repair, the other ones has been healed somewhat...happened both times.

It certainly made things harder for both male and female absue victims i think, so abuse victims lost either way with this IMO.

He won public opinion long before this but no, he lost in the UK, won in the US....

But was Depp really abusive towards her? The trial proved that those photos that Heard had of herself were manipulated. AH's team couldn't prove anything except for mean (and, admittedly, pretty extreme) messages about her he sent to his buddies.

The photos were still real, bruises still there. The saturation allowing you to see them better is the only thing that was questionable

Every bit of evidence uncovered suggested she was mentally, verbally and physically abusive towards him, not the other way around.

That couldn't be further from the truth. His text messages, his jealous behavior, there was plenty that showed he was all those things. Enough so for the UK to say he was a wife beater.
 
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I think it's important to understand what the UK case was about. It was about whether Sun was guilty of libel or not. It was decided that there wasn't enough evidence that they were the ones inventing the story or, to put it another way, there was not enough evidence to say that there was no abuse.
Also, the judge ruled in Amber Heard's favor pretty much solely based on her testimony (while not admitting evidence from Depp's side) and the fact that Amber Heard said that she had donated her divorce settlement money. The Judge, therefore, concluded that Amber Heard would have nothing to gain from lying. But now it was proven she never donated the money. She lied during the UK trial.
 
Can't even be mad at JD for drinking mega pints of wine if he had to deal with that type of person on a daily bases lol.

And those bruises did not look real... sorry. The fact she said she covered up what she thought was a broken nose with make up is laughable. And the fact she didn't go to the doctor for that... You could go on for days on how terrible her lies were.

And her fake writing notes and handing blank papers to her lawyers... even the lawyers faces had enough of her insanity. I get people have nervous ticks and ways of dealing with it... but at least doodle on the paper... lol.
 


Recommend this thread. This person is a defense attorney (also has a YT channel with longer videos on this)..
 
They probably never should have gotten married in the first place.
Its like mixing Oil & Water.
BAD IDEA!
 
There were times that Heard chilled me to the bone in this trial. I got Gone Girl vibes from her. I went into this thinking this was a mutually abusive relationship, but that changed after Heard's credibility shattering testimony. Aside from her blatant lying, which I was flabbergasted by, there were many holes and inconsistencies. I'm no lawyer, but to prove claims of domestic abuse in public like on a plane where there were supposed eye witnesses, wouldn't you at least bring them in to testify to corroborate it? But no eye witness testimonials showed up besides her sister who most likely committed perjury. As tragic as her childhood is with her father, this trial exposed her as a liar. At worst, she's a sociopath and at best, has a personality disorder. Either way she needs serious psychiatric help.

In hindsight, there were things that should have been questioned and met with skepticism back in 2016. There was a time when I believed her, but the irony is we ended up covering for an abuser and cast out the victim which is exactly what we're trying to change. That's really screwed up. I wish people could just acknowledge that the MeToo movement needn't be undermined by this, but instead Heard abused it and co-opted it to ruin a man's life. This can be a learning moment for all of us. That instead of taking things at face value in certain cases like this, it is okay to question things if there are grounds for it, but that doesn't automatically mean you are siding against someone. Can't we just acknowledge we screwed up and didn't listen to a victim? That yes, sometimes men can be victims of domestic abuse, but we can walk and chew gum at the same time and say that doesn't mean it undermines MeToo. Because Heard isn't a victim. She is an insult to them.
 
I was on the "She's clearly full of it" train since 2016. Glad for Depp that he's been vindicated.
 
I was on the "She's clearly full of it" train since 2016. Glad for Depp that he's been vindicated.

Except he hasnt. This doesn't void the UK ruling.

I think it's important to understand what the UK case was about. It was about whether Sun was guilty of libel or not. It was decided that there wasn't enough evidence that they were the ones inventing the story or, to put it another way, there was not enough evidence to say that there was no abuse.
Also, the judge ruled in Amber Heard's favor pretty much solely based on her testimony (while not admitting evidence from Depp's side) and the fact that Amber Heard said that she had donated her divorce settlement money. The Judge, therefore, concluded that Amber Heard would have nothing to gain from lying. But now it was proven she never donated the money. She lied during the UK trial.

It was about if Johnny Depp was a wife beater. They found that he was. She didn't lie. She didnt have to give any money to charity, she chose to. She pledged it, the ACLU said that. Depp was able to bring facts and he failed to.



Recommend this thread. This person is a defense attorney (also has a YT channel with longer videos on this)..


The New Yorker also wrote a great piece on it

The Johnny Depp–Amber Heard Verdict Is Chilling

and this great round up
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She had enough evidence that even 1 being true (which we know it is) that she should've won. And with this all being based off of a title of an article that she didnt title and just retweeted will definitely open plenty of people up for being sued.

BUT in the end, she lost for now, she will be appealing, just WB asked Johnny to step down from FB, they've cut her time in Aquaman and potentially from the entire movie.

Yet they will likely ignore the Ezra situation.
 
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@Primal Slayer You are flat-out denying the facts and twisting the truth. I'm a leftie but the op-eds that have come out of left-leaning media publications regarding this case have been so disappointing. They (and you) are so afraid of this case negatively affecting the MeToo movement that they're willing to throw the real victim under the bus. But you know who actually damaged the legitimacy of the MeToo movement? Amber Heard. And the people still sicking up for Amber Heard damage the movement even more.

It was about if Johnny Depp was a wife beater.

Wrong. It was about whether The Sun committed libel by calling him a wife-beater.

They found that he was. She didn't lie. She didnt have to give any money to charity, she chose to. She pledged it, the ACLU said that. Depp was able to bring facts and he failed to.

Lol, she pledged the money which as it turns out means nothing. During the UK trial Amber Heard said she had already given the money away which swayed the judge. That was a lie. She said it because she'd look more sympathetic to the judge and it worked.

As for Depp, the Judge rejected evidence from his team while basing her decision on hearsay from AH's side. That trial was ridiculous

She had enough evidence that even 1 being true (which we know it is) that she should've won.

No she didn't.

And with this all being based off of a title of an article that she didnt title and just retweeted will definitely open plenty of people up for being sued.

What are you talking about? They flat-out established that the article was specifically about Depp (AH even accidentally admitted to it during the trial) and that she was behind it. She didn't just retweet some random op-ed.

I don't even know why I'm bothering tbh. If Amber Heard lying under oath, constantly contradicting herself and being contradicted by others (including her own witnesses) and using clearly manipulated photos of herself don't convince you then nothing will.
 
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pitty her scenes were rumored to be cut in Aquaman 2 - the could always pretend that its a Snickers floating behind her…
 


How reliable is this guy? I've seen the name pop up here and there but don't know their track record. I think it's be a shame if they remove Mera from the movie altogether. Reshoot her scenes with a new actor if you have to but don't just get rid of the character.
 
pitty her scenes were rumored to be cut in Aquaman 2 - the could always pretend that its a Snickers floating behind her…

That's not a brown fish...:oldrazz:

As far as completely removing her, honestly, I love Mera as a character, but they can make up any excuse as to why she doesn't appear in the film. I'd rather Mera not be in it than keep AH in it. But with only allegedly 10 minutes of screen time, I feel they can recast and refilm that before it comes out since they pushed the release date back anyways.
 
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@Primal Slayer You are flat-out denying the facts and twisting the truth. I'm a leftie but the op-eds that have come out of left-leaning media publications regarding this case have been so disappointing. They (and you) are so afraid of this case negatively affecting the MeToo movement that they're willing to throw the real victim under the bus. But you know who actually damaged the legitimacy of the MeToo movement? Amber Heard. And the people still sicking up for Amber Heard damage the movement even more.



Wrong. It was about whether The Sun committed libel by calling him a wife-beater.



Lol, she pledged the money which as it turns out means nothing. During the UK trial Amber Heard said she had already given the money away which swayed the judge. That was a lie. She said it because she'd look more sympathetic to the judge and it worked.

As for Depp, the Judge rejected evidence from his team while basing her decision on hearsay from AH's side. That trial was ridiculous



No she didn't.



What are you talking about? They flat-out established that the article was specifically about Depp (AH even accidentally admitted to it during the trial) and that she was behind it. She didn't just retweet some random op-ed.

I don't even know why I'm bothering tbh. If Amber Heard lying under oath, constantly contradicting herself and being contradicted by others (including her own witnesses) and using clearly manipulated photos of herself don't convince you then nothing will.

A just ruling in a trial with evidence backing it up apparently isn't enough for people now. It makes me question if people actually watched this trial. And can we stop using "toxic fans" as an argument for her? You needn't a social media account to see that Heard lied.

This should be a victory for MeToo and DV victims, where in a court of law, a liar who used MeToo was exposed and in the process a victim of domestic abuse was vindicated. But I think either people just don't want to admit they were wrong or are just in denial. Which makes me question some people's belief in what this movement has been about. Either way, it's a blatant disregard for the facts and contributes to twisting the narrative of MeToo when MeToo is blameless in this. I was disappointed when The New York Times published an op-ed by Michelle Goldberg calling this ruling a travesty. The trades are also publishing bad faith articles. It's very disturbing and it's behavior like this that will kill MeToo in the long term. And these very same people will be asking "What happened?" Well, this is the moment where it started.
 
I haven't kept up with this production, but did they already go back for reshoots? If not, Wan has more than enough time to recast Heard with someone else, if he wants too, especially considering the rumored screen time. Riley Keough is right there! Or the rumored second choice in Abbey Lee.
 
It's WB's movie and they're free to do what they want if they think Amber Heard being in the movie poses a significant business risk.

But...I dunno. Wouldn't be a bit of a weird double standard if she got removed from Aquaman but Ezra Miller got to keep his part in The Flash, despite the numerous recent assault offenses? Is Top Gun: Maverick not the biggest film in the world right now partly because we've all collectively agreed to just kind of ignore Tom Cruise being a ranking member of a cult that suppresses abuse victims?

I'm not saying I know the answer here, but it's a bit strange that I would say most of the people who are celebrating Depp's win are vehemently against 'cancel culture' and what happened to Depp's career, yet will be all to eager to cheer on the same type of thing in this case. People are full of it.

Again, if WB decides to do it that's their choice and prerogative, I don't care either way. But I just wonder at what point does this end? I feel like it's a house of cards. It's only going to draw moer attention to the fact that they're letting Ezra keep his role in The Flash if they do it, especially since it's a related DC project. I get that this trial was a much more public thing where the public learned a lot of unsavory things about Heard and the average person may not be aware of Ezra Miller's offenses. I just think it's interesting how we're able to selectively pick and choose when things cross a line that a person can't be allowed to be a part of our entertainment. I guess at the end of the day once something escalates to being a culture war issue, it's radioactive.
 
Introduce Wally West and let Barry sacrifice himself in the end of the film. I don't like Miller's Flash and never have lol. Or bring in an alternate Flash from a different universe that acts like Barry Allen from the comics. That would be okay with me...
 
Not watching this movie if she's in it. Especially after watching the trial.

People can say whatever they want about Depp and his issues, but he did not deserve this.

If WB booted him off Fantastic Beats over rumours, then there's no reason to keep her when it's been shown and proved in the court of law that she tried to defame him.
 

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