15 Biggest Box Office Flops of 2011

[Tron Bonne]

All right, what's ignorant about it?

I've watched anime. Good anime, bad anime. I've tried to understand it. I've tried to "get" it. I've tried to like it. But it keeps getting lost in translation again and again and again. Please enlighten me about what exactly I got wrong about the generic description. What, exactly, is it that you anime fans love about the genre beyond the fact that geek chic tells you you're *supposed* to love anime? Because I can't ever see it as anything more than cookie-cutter one-size-fits-all Japanese attempts to try to take everything they can from American and Japanese pop culture and mash-up the hell out of it into some bizarre smorgasbord of incomprehensible nonsense.

Seriously, enlighten me. I've been trying to figure out what anime is all about for decades now, and nobody's given me a straight answer yet.

Generalizations tend to be pretty ignorant by default. It's like someone saying, "All American movies are extremely violent and try to be overly masculine." And I have seen people make that statement. And I think it's fair to say that anyone who knows even the slightest thing about that will just kind of shake their head and dismiss it. That's not to say there might be something to that generalization, since every corner of the world has their little niches as far as entertainment goes (There are a lot of mainstream American movies that are overly violent and stupidly masculine, after all), but only those with totally closed minds would ever actually subscribe to that kind of mentality. I don't think anyone can 'enlighten' those who have no real wish for enlightenment, and that's definitely the vibe I get from everything you've posted about it. From apparently only thinking anyone likes it because some "geek chic" told them to (which I find is probably a new one) to calling it a genre (animation is not a genre, it's a medium, as the highest praised Brad Bird will tell you). I mean, you know, if you've never found a single thing you like, that's just been your experience, and I won't denounce you or anything like some, but when this topic often comes up, I tend to find it's more of a case of not really looking, and not really looking with an open mind to begin with. But you know, like I said, if that's how you've seen it, then that's just how it is. I doubt I, or anyone else, could say anything to convince you otherwise.

 

[marvelman2006]

And by adulte anime I guess you mean Hentai ?

Im not being ignorant but what is hentai? All that stuff looks the same to me honestly.

 

[Tron Bonne]

Hentai is porn

 

[marvelman2006]

A tragic story.

You poor thing. I send my deepest condolences.

LOL thank you, I just see the section and all the dvd covers look the same almost and you got pillows,bed sheets, flags, swords, book covers. Same with the justin bieber and twilight section only that is borderline stalker territory.

Guess what so is some porn if not more so. Which should be more creepy seeing as it's actually real.

Nah I think Adult real life Adult movies are more exceptable then hand drawn ones. It just comes off creepy that someone took that large amount of time to draw women and guys.......

But I can appreciate normal Anime for its cultural following and know it has a certain fan base plugged but its just not for me. Same with Pokemon. I love star wars but acknowledge alot of people dont get it or dont like it or even hate it. Certain things people just dont get or even understand nor will it ever appeal to them.

 

[marvelman2006]

Hentai is porn

Gotcha, I feel like such a noob when I dont know stuff.

 

[Monsieur Xavier]

^^
Don't be, it is not a vital knowledge in your everyday life

 

[Mrs. Sawyer]

It's not?

 

[chaseter]

And by adulte anime I guess you mean Hentai ?

Tentacle pr0n

 

[The Morningstar]

The Asians do seem to love their tentacle porn.

As for anime? Ghost in the Shell, Akira etc is just compelling, complex story telling with over the top visuals. I mean, even the tv series of Ghost in the Shell is more complex and thought provoking than most American... anything.

 

[kane9321]

Did you get a refund for both movies? My theatres rarely give refunds after someone watches a movie, no matter how bad it was. I lucked out with Green Lantern and got a free pass to another movie. Sucker Punch no luck.

sadly..no. Because i watched both movies in its entirely..i couldnt get my refund...im still mad

 

[lespaul59]

So I finally watched Green Lantern and while I thought a couple of things could have been better I don't see how if flopped like it did.

 

[Liam_H]

Really? This movie was the butt of many jokes before it came out such as the CGI making it look like a video game, cheesiness of the other aliens, changing him into a white guy etc. So it really did need word of mouth to say it was fantastic for more people to get over their preconceptions and give it a chance.

 

[Mrs. Sawyer]

Yeah a lot of people thought green lantern was supposed to be black. I saw the Twitter feeds of green lantern comments. I'm not kidding.

 

[Liam_H]

I did the same thing a few days before the movie came out. About half of every tweets were about how it was racist for them to make Green Lantern white when he's SUPPOSE to be black. It was hilarious and frustrating at the same time.

 

[jacobed]

I wish he was. I find John Stewart much much more interesting than Hal Jordan.

 

[dark_b]

So I finally watched Green Lantern and while I thought a couple of things could have been better I don't see how if flopped like it did.

so you waited and watched GL at home 6 months after it was in the theater. and you dont see how it bombed in the theater?

 

[craigdbfan]

 

[marvelman2006]

The green lanterns problem was they spent too much time on earth with nonsense and characters that had no depth to them and a villian that was just there. The stuff on the lantern planet was great and sinestro was good but most of the animation was ****e. The suit looked like green salmon.

This isnt a knock against ryan at all but in most superhero movies the actors I like to think can step into a hero role more better if they have the actual suit on. Ryan just has some dots on him and they put it on later. It

 

[cherokeesam]

I strongly doubt "outraged" John Stewart fan boycotters (all three of them) caused GL to tank.

But god knows using Stewart instead of Hal *would've* created a larger audience for the movie, and critics would've been a helluva lot kinder to an affirmative-action superhero film.

 

[Thebumwhowalks]

I wish he was. I find John Stewart much much more interesting than Hal Jordan.

The movie would still have been crap, and it would have been very bad for getting more non-caucasian superhero movies off the ground, they could have easily attributed the movie's failure to it having a non-caucasian lead.

 

[The Morningstar]

That could be true. The movies script was just bad, no matter how you wanna slice it.

You could have had Steve McQueen in his hey day in that role and it would have still be ****.

 

[kane9321]

The movie, script....it was all crap. John stewart couldnt have made this crapfest better

 

[marvelman2006]

The story was just all over the place, they tried to do too many things at once and none really connected.

- Hal love interest
- Love triangle (Hal, girl, villian)
- estabhlishing the green lantern world
- Hal learning to use his powers
- Parallax threat that kept coming in and out
- trying to tell the other villians story
- trying to tell sinestro's story
- Trying to establish the senator and hals flight dilemma
- Hal's discconect with his family that went nowhere after the first 20 minutes


Just too many storylines and its obvious this mess was written by 5 writers which explains the all over the place nature.

 

[kane9321]

The story was just all over the place, they tried to do too many things at once and none really connected.

- Hal love interest
- Love triangle (Hal, girl, villian)
- estabhlishing the green lantern world
- Hal learning to use his powers
- Parallax threat that kept coming in and out
- trying to tell the other villians story
- trying to tell sinestro's story
- Trying to establish the senator and hals flight dilemma
- Hal's discconect with his family that went nowhere after the first 20 minutes


Just too many storylines and its obvious this mess was written by 5 writers which explains the all over the place nature.

Lets just pretend this movie never happened...it had so much potential..and it proved to be so bad

 

[BestGirl]

The editing in the second half of GL was also just horrendous. The movie felt like it was missing some pieces.