Everything that's just wrong with B&R

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Found this on the IMDB boards. Thought it was funny. Note that this list goes through the film chronologically, so its best used while watching the film, like the guy says.

"This isn't a thing about the art direction, or dialogue, or character desecration, or acting, all of which are also terrible and have had their threads many tims, this is just a very, very long list of everything that's simply "wrong" with this movie, such as scientific inaccuracies, or major continuity errors. And I mean a seriously long list.

(for best effect watch the movie while reading these)
(Also note they are in order of appearance from the beginning of the movie)
- Robin seems to tug on the lower area of his suit as though pulling up pants.

- Rather heavy helmet Batman has.

- Almost all of the tools they pick up appear quite useless.

- Point of rotating orange light in the front of the Batmobile?

- Considering Commissioner Gordon would have to lock on to Batman’s signal, surely he would notice it’s coming from underneath Wayne Manor?

- If Mr. Freeze has “frozen” the security guards, how would Gordon know he’s at the museum or that he’s calling himself Mr. Freeze?

- The guards do not slip on the ice while running at Mr. Freeze.

- How did Mr. Freeze’s gun manage to create large icicles and “freeze” the perfectly dry floor without touching anything else?

- Mr. Freeze’s “one absolute” is incorrect, as everything also boils and melts as well as freezes.

- How did Batman know the statue of the dinosaur was there to break his fall.

- Robin’s bike miraculously manages to leave a hole in the shape of his symbol in the door.

- Despite apparently being an avid and skilled motorcyclist, Robin falls off his bike immediately after entering the museum.

- Jar flies directly up, then lands where Batman is standing.

- Mr. Freeze’s gun “sticks” to the top of the statue.

- Mr. Freeze’s goons come out of nowhere.

- If Mr. Freeze was just a scientist, where did he get goons in the first place?

- Goons are armed with hockey sticks.

- Ice skates come out of Batman & Robin’s boots, which are not platform boots.

- Mr. Freeze is played by Arnold Schwarzenegger, who’s a huge man, but even he is unlikely to have the strength to throw a heavy man roughly 50ft into the air, with no starting momentum.

- Ice skates visibly turn into roller blades for much of the scene.

- Goons seem to just skate around randomly, rather then attack the heroes.

- Dinosaurs died off many millions of years before the first Ice Age.

- Mr. Freeze’s rather complicated car appears without any explanation.

- Diamond flies rather unrealistically into Mr. Freeze’s hand.

- Point of rocket?

- Robin floats through the air to the rocket.

- Robin holds his grip on the rocket despite going through a window.

- Too many pointless buttons and switches in the rocket

- Before Batman “freezes” in space, he would be incinerated, along with the rocket, by the atmosphere, as the rocket is clearly travelling at no more then 200 km/h

- The rocket is roughly 25ft. long and 8ft. across, and contains no explosive material, other then some fuel, therefore is unlikely to destroy Gotham had it ever had a chance.

- Robin takes his laser from the front of his utility belt, where it has miraculously appeared.

- The “Bat-bomb” seems to mainly be a flashing light with wings, with very little room for a powerful explosive to fit in it.

- Doors turn into surfboards.

- Although they have no remote grip on the boards, they are both able to stay on while plummeting at least 70mph.

- The boards act like gliders, despite being made of steel.

- Mr. Freeze has not travelled far and doesn’t notice the large explosion of the rocket.

- Diamond ridiculously flies up while falling at massive speeds.

- Robin flips over on his board without falling off.

- Baterangs go between the vent bars, and then turn sideways.

- Robin makes a noise without opening his mouth.

- Mr. Freeze’s goons somehow know he’s down in the tunnel and bring the car there.

- Freeze has ample opportunity to kill Batman, yet he doesn’t.

- When water is being heated, it doesn’t look any different until it starts boiling, at which point it will begin bubbling and turning into steam, it sure doesn’t turn bright red.

- Green lightning?

- Plants are not anywhere near extinction.

- Why is Dr. Woodrow laughing maniacally, it does not comply with what he’s doing when Dr. Isley goes down to his lab?

- She has been in the same building for years, and has long wondered what he does down there. More so there is nothing to stop her going down there, as seen the in film, so why is she only going down now?

- Dr. Woodrow’s “super soldier” is hardly the ideal killing machine if it loses most of its intelligence.

- The “poisons and toxins” make the ground glow, then cause everything to sink.

- Mr. Freeze’s accident really was one waiting to happen. The tank he falls into is the same height and width as the platform he was on, and the railing stops on either side of the tank, leaving it very easy to fall into.

- Assuming he was talking about the Celsius scale of degrees, water doesn’t get to –50 degrees, it freezes at 0 degrees, Victor would merely have had a sore back for a little while.

- Security cameras do not move and follow an event they might be recording.

- Where did Freeze get his suit?

- McGregor Syndrome?!

- Poison Ivy rises (unrealistically) vertically out of the ground, even though she was left sinking horizontally.

- Chlorophyll is a green pigment, and not the best substitute for skin.

- The venom has no actual way of getting out of her lips.

- Bane is still standing where he was at least 2 hours previous.

- What is Poison Ivy’s interest in Gotham; there are many better places where plants are in danger, such as the Amazon.

- Does Mr. Freeze’s “hideout” not look a bit suspicious?

- Freeze calls Frosty over just to say “Ah, energy!” and tell him things he already knows.

- If he’s not interested in her, why does Mr. Freeze have the woman there?

- If Freeze’s wife is cryogenically frozen, why is she floating in a tank of water?

- Oxford University does not have a uniform, and even if it did, it’s unlikely that Barbara would wear it all the way from England to the USA, then to Wayne Manor.

- Barbara rather stupidly stands on the wall attempting to see in the window, despite it clearly being still a full 1 or 2ft above her.

- Robin’s motorcycle is out in the middle of the path for no reason.

- Barbara claims that the photograph of Alfred’s wife is the same one she has beside her bed, but as it’s a traditional photograph, there would not be two.

- Where did Barbara get the keys to the ignition for Robin’s Motorcycle?

- Where did Poison Ivy get her elaborate outfits tailored?

- According to the map, Gotham City is right where New York City is on the East Coast of the USA.

- Why is Bruce Wayne carrying around the advertisement for the garden ball with him?

- Surely Mr. Freeze would merely tell Frosty to be quiet, rather then freeze him, as he clearly had something important to say.

- Where would Poison Ivy get her “pheromone dust”?

- The crowd seem less impressed with Batman and Robin’s bids then they are with the man who bids half as much.

- If the pheromone dust heats a man’s blood, it still does not explain why the men fall in love with Poison Ivy if she uses it on them, let alone the women.

- Neither Batman nor Robin seem to notice the dust she is blatantly blowing on them.

- Freeze “refreezes” the same people over and over.

- Crowd shrinks from at least 50 people to about 15.

- Mr. Freeze is somehow able to swing to the stage on the vine from the much lower floor with no forward momentum.

- Batman is able to punch through a solid wooden tray, without any injury to his hand.

- The garden ball “ arena” seems to be situated on the top of a tall building, so did Mr. Freeze perhaps use the elevator to bring his car up to the top?

- Freeze smashes the same window to get out.

- Robin’s bike is able to stop suddenly without any brakes.

- Robin’s bike begins to slow down well before the jump, yet he arrives at it before Batman.

- The much lighter vehicles don’t make the jump, but Freeze’s car does.

- Batman glides without anything to glide with.

- Batman somehow flies through the windshield (and steel frame) and knocks out Mr. Freeze, also landing outside.

- How did Batman get the Batmobile back to the Batcave if it was frozen?

- Has Robin never heard of a bike lock?

- Green lightning again.

- Freeze’s cell seems to be situated in a convenient tower attached to Arkham Asylum.

- The entrance into the “Turkish Bath” is boarded up, not doubt by the punks, so how did they get into the place?

- Bane is able to send all of the punks into the air by stomping on one floorboard.

- Bane stomps a hole in the concrete, straight through to the earth below, with no debris under his foot.

- Where did Poison Ivy get the “seeds” she uses to make the plants grow?

- The thermal detector also detects Barbara’s helmet.

- There are so many things wrong with the racing scene that it’s impossible to list all of them, from the green fire to Robin’s very strong muscles in his foot.

- Robin does not seem to mind that Barbara has caused his two favourite motorcycles to be destroyed.

- Mr. Freeze’s ice sculpture of his wife somehow plays music.

- The fact that you see Two-Face’s suit in the storage room makes little sense, as in the previous movie, Two-Face was killed when he fell down a deep chasm onto rocks, and his body clearly sank into the water. It’s unlikely that the police would have retrieved the suit and repaired it, just to hang it in a storage closet.

- Does Bane wheel the trolley with Mr. Freeze’s suit all the way from the first floor to the top of Arkham Asylum?

- Surely the lock for Freeze’s cell door would be located on the outside of the room?

- Arkham Asylum is at least 500ft tall, and water or not, jumping off the top is ill advised to all but the suicidal.

- How does Commissioner Gordon show Batman & Robin the CCTV footage of Mr. Freeze, Poison Ivy and Bane using a TV in Freeze’s hideout?

- Apparently, Poison Ivy and Bane put ten security guards in the hospital and killed a businessman, but no one thought to arrest them.

- Somehow, Batman knows where the switch to open the door into Freeze’s secret room.

- Poison Ivy knows her way around Freeze’s lair, despite never having been there before.

- The gas that is choking the police is prevented from spewing out anymore by Gordon, and suddenly they are all fine.

- Bane somehow knows there is an exit at the back of the room.

- How does Freeze escape the hideout?

- How does Poison Ivy get the necklace out of the tank?

- Mr. Freeze’s room in Ivy’s hideout appears out of nowhere and then disappears later.

- Alfred has been sick for some time, and said he’s already seen the best doctors around, but it’s only when he’s dying that the doctor diagnoses Macgregor Syndrome.

- Robin could not be stupid and blind enough to reject Batman’s perfectly reasonable and rational explanation about Poison Ivy.

- The telescope is “unveiled”, yet looks no different to when we saw it earlier. Also it isn’t used until after the unveiling party is over, which seems pointless.

- The “bombs” Bane plants around the telescope are a large flashing light, with no more then 2 inches in which to place explosives.

- The password is shown as it is being typed, not concealed in stars as it should be.

- How do the vines, gate etc. open/close when Robin steps past them?

- The blue lasers in the Batcave do nothing.

- Barbara goes to the centre of the cave, yet doesn’t set off the alarm, she just waits there for the lasers to hit her.

- How did Alfred find time in his very ill state to make a suit for Batgirl?

- The venom doesn’t affect rubber lips, despite them just being on the top lip, and not the bottom lip.

- Poison Ivy “commands” vines to grab Batman.

- Batgirl somehow knows where Batman & Robin are.

- The knife Poison Ivy uses to attack Batgirl is no more then an inch long, hardly lethal.

- The shot of Robin coming above the water for air then getting dragged back under is very clearly the shot of him climbing out off the water being rewinded.

- The telescope is rather conveniently compatible with Mr. Freeze’s machine.

- Batman, Robin and Batgirl have different suits on than before, did they go home to change especially for this confrontation?

- Freeze does not think of using his giant freezing engine on Batman, Robin and Batgirl.

- Good thing Batman brought his car with the anti-freezing gun shield built into it.

- The infamous motorcycle shot. The single stupidest thing in the movie. It really must be seen to be believed.

- Flexible icicles on the cars.

- Robin & Batgirl throw very static grappling hooks.

- Batgirl seems to know every insignificant detail about the telescope despite having never seeing or hearing of it before.

- Mr. Freeze targets the freezing engine with a magnifying glass seemingly capable of seeing for hundreds of metres.

- Also when Batman looks through the magnifying glass and Freeze is standing in front of it, he is only slightly magnified.

- Robin & Batgirl’s grappling hooks get up to the top very fast.

- They also manage to land on the same enclave that Bane happens to be on.

- The two scientists go ‘yes’ and ‘no’ in accordance with the satellite targeting, despite not being able to see the screen.

- The two scientists have very strong arms to be able to hold on to the telescope for so long.

- The sun being shone on the freezing engine turns it into a “heat beam”.

- Robin & Batgirl somehow know to pull out the tube while fighting Bane.

- After Freeze activates the bombs he rolls off the platform onto the
floor beside the telescope, but is unharmed by the explosion and more importantly, the collapse of most of the floor.

- The telescope is very flat while falling.

- What happens to Bane after he is defeated?

- The Satellites get around the world very quickly.

- Batman happens to have a video recording of Poison Ivy that looks awfully like the actual film footage seen earlier.

- Mr. Freeze happens to carry around the cure to Macgregor Syndrome, built into his suit, which Alfred needs.

- Judging by the dishevelled state Poison Ivy is in, she has been in the cell for several hours, and when Freeze lights up his suit, he is standing by the wall, so he has been standing there silently without her noticing for some time.

- Alfred recovers very quickly from the disease.

- Overall crapness of the film.

That’s all for now, should I spot any more, they will be added immediately"

Aaaand scene. :oldrazz:
 
- If Mr. Freeze has “frozen” the security guards, how would Gordon know he’s at the museum or that he’s calling himself Mr. Freeze?

lol

- How did Batman know the statue of the dinosaur was there to break his fall.

He didn't, he just decided to wing it and the statues were luckily there.

- Robin’s bike miraculously manages to leave a hole in the shape of his symbol in the door.

Probably one of the must ridiculous things about this movie. That part is so stupid.

- Mr. Freeze’s gun “sticks” to the top of the statue.

Always found that annoying too

- Mr. Freeze’s goons come out of nowhere.
- If Mr. Freeze was just a scientist, where did he get goons in the first place?
- Goons are armed with hockey sticks.


lol

Funny list, I'm about 1/3 finish with it, I'll read the rest later.
 
Here's what gets me; Batman spends most of the previous film, Forever, telling Dick that he absolutely won't let him become his partner.

Then Barbara turn up in B&R, and Batman just accepts her immedietly. Probably because she actually defeated a villain (Poison Ivy), unlike Robin who just seems to need rescuing 24/7.
 
This link has been posted in nearly every B&R bashing thread, but nothing sums it up better, or in a more hilarious fashion:

http://www.agonybooth.com/batman_robin/

But I'm actually quite tired of this...

YES! Batman & Robin is the least effective of the Batman films.
YES! For the most part it's either absurd, cheesy, big and dumb...

But enough's enough...

B&R is just as valid a part of Batman's mythology as anything. The bashing's of this film has gotten blown out of proportion and it's REALLY old...

Based on the directives given to Schumacher, he did a great job with what he was told to do. And the film looks visually amazing.

Plus, how else would we have gotten Mr. Freeze and Poison Ivy onto the big screen? Burton wouldn't have touched them, and Nolan certainly won't.

Batman & Robin is fine. It represents the big, bold and colorful aspect of comic books and if you put away your naive grudge against it, it's a fun watch.

The bashing is really tiresome, and it should subside. After all the film can't be that bad, since we're stilling talking about it 10 years later!

CFE
 
idk, Robin rescued Batman in Forever.

Yeah, but then as soon as Batman allowed Robin to be his partner, he got captured by the frogmen outside Claw Island, and then again by Two-Face. In B&R, even though he saves Batman from the rocket at the start, Robin then gets himself frozen, argues with Batman constantly, falls in love with the villain, falls in a tank of goo, goes solo, fails to capture Ivy, needs rescuing by Batgirl ("No, I got you,"), needs rescuing by Batman again ("Need a lift?")....Robin has contributed somewhat, but if you weigh up the positives and negatives, Batman shouldn't have let him join.
 
This link has been posted in nearly every B&R bashing thread, but nothing sums it up better, or in a more hilarious fashion:

http://www.agonybooth.com/batman_robin/

But I'm actually quite tired of this...

YES! Batman & Robin is the least effective of the Batman films.
YES! For the most part it's either absurd, cheesy, big and dumb...

But enough's enough...

B&R is just as valid a part of Batman's mythology as anything. The bashing's of this film has gotten blown out of proportion and it's REALLY old...

Based on the directives given to Schumacher, he did a great job with what he was told to do. And the film looks visually amazing.

Plus, how else would we have gotten Mr. Freeze and Poison Ivy onto the big screen? Burton wouldn't have touched them, and Nolan certainly won't.

Batman & Robin is fine. It represents the big, bold and colorful aspect of comic books and if you put away your naive grudge against it, it's a fun watch.

The bashing is really tiresome, and it should subside. After all the film can't be that bad, since we're stilling talking about it 10 years later!

CFE

No mercy for B&R! It's so horrible that the bashing shall not end until kingdom come!
 
Speaking of what's wrong with Batman and Robin, can we talk about it being almost the same story as Batman Forever? Off the top of my head, without watching both movies back to back, here is some of the paralles between the two films...

-Start the film with Batman (and Robin) suiting up, take off to fight a villain.

-Commissioner Gordon gives the details of what happening to Batman

-Villain takes out a security guard after giving a speech (Two Face's "Luck", Freeze's "Mercy")

-Batman shows up (along with Robin in B&R) and fights the villain's thugs.

-Villain gets away by air (Helicopter, Rocket), Batman hangs on to vehicle

-Batman ends up wet in BF (falls into ocean), Robin ends up wet in B&R (dropped in water to thaw), not important just funny

-Next scene we're introduced to Wayne Enterprise employees with eccentric personalities that are unilaterally driven (brain waves, plants)

-Both employees kill their bosses, decide to target Bruce Wayne

I could keep going but it would take a while so here are some other apparent similarities that stand out

- Circus is crashed by Two Face, Flowers Ball is crashed by Freeze

- Dick's parents are dead so he ends up with Bruce, Barbara parents are dead so she ends up with Bruce

-Green villain/ former employee purposes a pairing (Riddler seeks out Two Face, Ivy seeks out Freeze)

-Riddler and Two Face want to control Gotham, Freeze and Ivy want to destroy Gotham then "start over"

- Robin is introduced in final battle, Batgirl is introduced in final battle

- Batman and Robin fight above the ocean on an elevated platform, Batman and Robin and Batgirl fight above Gotham on an elevated platform (telescope)

- Robin and Chase fall, Robin and Batgirl fall

- Batman looks down on a defeated Riddler, Batman looks down at a defeated Freeze

- Final scene includes Riddler in Arkham, final scene includes Freeze and Ivy in arkham

This movie was done two years after BF was released and it is clear that major plot points were reused because they didn't have three like the other films. The more you look for these plot points, the more numerous and evident they become. Batman and Robin is a much lesser version of BF. I'm not making it up, compare the plot of Burton's two movies, they are nothing alike. The same crap we got in Forever was recycled and made much worse.
 
No mercy for B&R! It's so horrible that the bashing shall not end until kingdom come!

But that's the thing...it's not that horrible.

The least favorable? absolutely.

But horrible...no. I'm not so juvenile and naive that I can't sit and watch it and enjoy aspects of it.

True I spin my Burton and Begins DVDs far more often...but people are far too hard on it.

Again, it's just as valid an entry into the mythology of Batman of anything before it.

1: Considering the angle the studio wanted to go for, the film is visually satisfying.
2: Michael Gough gives, in my opinion, his best performance as Alfred.
3: The message it presents, concerning the importance of family, is a positive one that I think should be taught. Even more so now than 10 years ago.
4: Nipples and Cod Pieces aside, the Hero suits are still beautiful pieces of costuming.
5: With it's campy approach, we were able to see Mr. Freeze and Poison Ivy on the screen; given their outragessness in terms of visuals, I highly doubt Burton or Nolan would've gone/would go anywhere near them.
6: The principle of reason 5 also works both ways, and goes for both Robin and Batgirl. This also helps to cover the aspect of Batman that does involve all the colorful villains and sidekicks. And while I, like every other fan, prefer the dark and gothic loner side of Batman, to neglect and bash the side given to us by Schumacher is just naive. You can't be a true Batman fan if you don't at least respect all aspects of the character, and those who bash the Schumacher films certainly don't respect that side of Batman...meaning they might just not be true fans...IMO.
7: Given the three simple facts that (Batman began as a comic book character/comic books initially began as literature for children/there will always be young children who are fans of Batman) It's only fair that little kids have a Batman film that they can watch and enjoy. Now I'm sure we're all the exception...I enjoyed watching, say, "Batman Returns" before I was even 5 and never got scared. But there will be some kids that do get frightened. And it's nice to know that whenver I have children of my own, if they can't handle the Burton films there's a film to fall back on. Of course, I'd continue pushing the Burton films, but I could still get them involved with the character through "B&R"
8: Though not as valid a reason...at all really...some of the songs off the soundtrack aren't too shabby ;)

I'm just saying...the bashing of Batman & Robin's gotten to be a little much for me.

And again, if it was really "So Horrible" we'd have stopped bringing it up a LOOOOOONNGG time ago.

However, surprise surprise...here we are talking about it...a decade later...

CFE
 
CFE, its no use bro. I feel the same as you on the whole B&R thing, but unfortunately, it seems easier for people to just be on the "this movie is worthless" bandwagon. Plus, alot of the "wrong" things that are listed are highly debatable.
 
Oh there's absolutely things that I cringe at, but that's mostly because like you, SHADOWBAT69, I'm a B89 man first and foremost.

But I enjoy all the Bat-Films in different ways...

CFE
 
yeah. The Burton movies are my "cup of tea" as it were. I just dont like the more light hearted versions. B&R I can maybe watch once a year straight thru. Forever maybe twice. However I can acknowledge and respect their places in bat history and recognize the particular versions they were meant to portray. I can even do so for the documentary that is Begins. :o
 
- Robin’s bike miraculously manages to leave a hole in the shape of his symbol in the door.

Probably one of the must ridiculous things about this movie. That part is so stupid./quote]That's actually kinda lifted right out of the classic comics.

If you go back and look at the 60s stuff, you'll see nearly every time Batman (or Batgirl's) shadow is displayed, it's in the form of a Bat symbol. Could their shadow possibly look like a bat? No. Does it make any sense at all? No. But that's how they played it back then.
 
Also, I thoroughly agree with CFE and Shadowbat. :o
 
But that's the thing...it's not that horrible.

The least favorable? absolutely.

But horrible...no. I'm not so juvenile and naive that I can't sit and watch it and enjoy aspects of it.

True I spin my Burton and Begins DVDs far more often...but people are far too hard on it.

Again, it's just as valid an entry into the mythology of Batman of anything before it.

1: Considering the angle the studio wanted to go for, the film is visually satisfying.
2: Michael Gough gives, in my opinion, his best performance as Alfred.
3: The message it presents, concerning the importance of family, is a positive one that I think should be taught. Even more so now than 10 years ago.4: Nipples and Cod Pieces aside, the Hero suits are still beautiful pieces of costuming.
5: With it's campy approach, we were able to see Mr. Freeze and Poison Ivy on the screen; given their outragessness in terms of visuals, I highly doubt Burton or Nolan would've gone/would go anywhere near them.
6: The principle of reason 5 also works both ways, and goes for both Robin and Batgirl. This also helps to cover the aspect of Batman that does involve all the colorful villains and sidekicks. And while I, like every other fan, prefer the dark and gothic loner side of Batman, to neglect and bash the side given to us by Schumacher is just naive. You can't be a true Batman fan if you don't at least respect all aspects of the character, and those who bash the Schumacher films certainly don't respect that side of Batman...meaning they might just not be true fans...IMO.
7: Given the three simple facts that (Batman began as a comic book character/comic books initially began as literature for children/there will always be young children who are fans of Batman) It's only fair that little kids have a Batman film that they can watch and enjoy. Now I'm sure we're all the exception...I enjoyed watching, say, "Batman Returns" before I was even 5 and never got scared. But there will be some kids that do get frightened. And it's nice to know that whenver I have children of my own, if they can't handle the Burton films there's a film to fall back on. Of course, I'd continue pushing the Burton films, but I could still get them involved with the character through "B&R"
8: Though not as valid a reason...at all really...some of the songs off the soundtrack aren't too shabby ;)

I'm just saying...the bashing of Batman & Robin's gotten to be a little much for me.

And again, if it was really "So Horrible" we'd have stopped bringing it up a LOOOOOONNGG time ago.

However, surprise surprise...here we are talking about it...a decade later...

CFE

We're supposed to learn a message about family from Batman and Robin?
 
We're supposed to learn a message about family from Batman and Robin?

:dry:

Have you even seen "Batman and Robin?"

They hit you over the head with that message...

CFE
 
Edit: never mind. I was going to try and defend as many of the wrongs in B&R as I could...but it would take to long. I could do it though.

CFE
 
Both of Schumacher films are fun IMO. I watch all the Batman films at least once a year. Everyone should chime in.

Btw, I always thought it was strange the guys got nipples but Batgirl didn't
 
Both of Schumacher films are fun IMO. I watch all the Batman films at least once a year. Everyone should chime in.

Btw, I always thought it was strange the guys got nipples but Batgirl didn't

She did...they're just as Schumacher stated "subtler."

CFE
 
LMAO

Does he say that on the commentary? I still haven't gotten around to it yet.

He says it in the "Batman Unbound" documentary.

"We didn't want to seem sexist by not giving her nipples..."

no joke...

CFE
 
I dont understand how anyone can get any kind of satisfaction out of Batman and Robin, short of making a drinking game out of it where you drink everytime something stupid/ridiculous/that should have been left in the 50s/60s happens (although you'd probably die of alcohol poisoning about 20 minutes in)...if Batman and Robin had been made 40 years before it was, I would agree that it was a valid piece of Batman history, but by the time it came out the character had already evolved so far past that interpretation that it was just awful on every level...same goes for Batman Forever actually, with gay Riddler and his crazy brainwave machine, and dont forget Two Face who's split personalities seem to be "evil" and "slightly more evil"
 
I dont understand how anyone can get any kind of satisfaction out of Batman and Robin, short of making a drinking game out of it where you drink everytime something stupid/ridiculous/that should have been left in the 50s/60s happens (although you'd probably die of alcohol poisoning about 20 minutes in)...if Batman and Robin had been made 40 years before it was, I would agree that it was a valid piece of Batman history, but by the time it came out the character had already evolved so far past that interpretation that it was just awful on every level...same goes for Batman Forever actually, with gay Riddler and his crazy brainwave machine, and dont forget Two Face who's split personalities seem to be "evil" and "slightly more evil"


I lol'd at the bold.

I can see how some people may not like them.
 

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