Yes. Go to the other 2 threads.So is this thread over???
Yes. Go to the other 2 threads.
i was thinking of a design that would fit the whole arm and that would have two pressurized canisters with the right psi and woild spin with each other to make the strands like in the movie and would cool using a device.i have to figure out that device and that would cool it to increase the tensile strength while having it shoot out with a somewhat medium size device spread from the arm and would have adhesiveness to come off your hands while you try to get offf of the web line.im open for tips as well as my mistakes in my design.I thought of something else for the shooter. If one were to add a high iron powder concentration and open the pressure valve by using an electromagnetic coil, then the iron filaments would magnetize and when they exit the shooter, would attract to itself meaning that the strand would become stronger and stick together instead of flying off into different strands. Also, after some research, I think I could easily build one of these electromagnetic valves and with a few edits to the cartridges, they could be easily replaced. All I need to do is figure out a specific pressure and get a budson burner and I can build a prototype.
Finally I think I need to think more carefully about the adhesive. Since most adhesives lose tackiness with heat, I need to wonder if it increases once the heat is absent or if the glue is lost forever. Anywho, I think the best wec would be a water based contact cement and polyeurethane until I can track down some nano-glue. the water would cause the polyeurethane to expand and the contact cement would stick until the contents evaporate which would be about half a second after the web leaves the can. The advantage of using the cement is that the rope would be more elastic and the adhesive would come off clean within a few hours. The advantage with the polyeurethane is that it cures hard and it expands and a reaction with sodium will make it harden. As for the nylon, it highly increases the tensile strength and iron will strengthen and magentize the web. The only thing missing from this is a dissolving feature.
yes white_widow i do agree and we might be able to make a cooling device while it is heating so it wouldnt lose any tensile strength and adhesive propertys but there might be a cost and there could be complications with my theroy and i have looked how to make some and no one has made many real ones and they dont show how so imnew and i could work with you guys to buld the shooter and help develop the webbing,and the formulas for the webbing.i was thinking of a design that would fit the whole arm and that would have two pressurized canisters with the right psi and woild spin with each other to make the strands like in the movie and would cool using a device.i have to figure out that device and that would cool it to increase the tensile strength while having it shoot out with a somewhat medium size device spread from the arm and would have adhesiveness to come off your hands while you try to get offf of the web line.im open for tips as well as my mistakes in my design.
that could work with te air but wouldnt itneed more heat and propetys to still have adhesive strength with the factor looming of the tensile strength decreasing.please post tips and what might be wrong with my thery.Ive been thinking of the cooling system why dont you use nitrogen.
Ive been thinking of the cooling system why dont you use nitrogen.
Now after discussing the properties of a possible fluid design, I offer two questions.
1.) What is the end behavior of the web? That is to say, what properties are held by the end of the web. It it shaped like a net, does it remain in one strand, does it spread like shot gun fire (while simultaneously being wound around the web), or would the ends curl in on themselves?
2.) Would creating the fluid be cost effective? Assuming that I could come up with the formula of a nylon polymer that had highly elastic qualities that was biodegradable, how much would it cost to make? To answer, At least thirty dollars a meter. If a person weighs about spiderman's weight, estimated to be around 160 lbs, then the max net force on the webbing would be 300 lbs due to gravity and momentum. This means that the nylon would have to be put together in tons of mini strands to catch a person. That doesn't include all the extra weight he carries.
So here's an alternate idea. Since a webshooter can be modified to hold more webbing, but the fluid is really expensive, (If silly string runs out that quickly, imagine marvelites everywhere with the real deal.) Then why not hold premade webbing. My suggestion is this. Fishing line that holds 300lbs.
http://www.basspro.com/webapp/wcs/st...:referralID=NA
This cost is about equal to get more than the nylon compounds. (Proof is at http://www.onlinesciencemall.com/Sho...id/0/SFV/30852)
The only difficulty there is to figure out how to shoot the fishing line. It isn't hard to find an adhesive that won't change the chemical formula and it will stick (unless line is teflon coated.) The shooter would certainly have to be modified but it would guarenteed hold weight and allow for easy adhesive coating.
Now here's another question. What does everyone want this webshooter for? Swinging, coating friends, improvised rope, blinding people, or anything else? Since spiderweb is near impossible to recreate technologically, we would need to have a purpose so we could plan accordingly. A webshooter has been created, but it only holds ten pounds and it is bulkier than toy's R Us. I found it at http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f47/t347614.html
From there, there are modifications that can be made to increase strength and properties. In my opinion, the one who made this is a genius.
Ive been thinking of the cooling system why dont you use nitrogen.
Your idea is great White widow I think the forearm web shooter is better then the wrist web shooter, but don't you think and i'm not doudting you I'm just curious that cable is stronger than bio tensule