Rep. Murtha Calls For Rumsfeld's Resignation

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This was posted on the Huffington Post website and was drafted by Pennsylvania Congressman John Murtha.

John Murtha said:
Today I introduced a resolution in the House of Representatives calling for the immediate resignation of Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld.

The President must show the American people and the world that there is accountability for the mistakes that have made in the war in Iraq. We must restore our credibility with our allies and the world in order to effectively fight the global threat of terrorism.

Secretary Rumsfeld has failed in managing the military response to this threat and should be replaced with someone who is capable of not only recognizing the mistakes that have been made but addressing them head on for the good of our military and our great nation.


H. Con. Res. __________

Expressing the Sense of Congress that the President should immediately replace the Secretary of Defense, Donald Rumsfeld

IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES

September 13, 2006


Mr. Murtha introduced the following resolution, which was referred to the committee on___________

Whereas ----

After 9/11, the United States government had unprecedented support from international allies as well as the American people for military action against al Qaeda and the Taliban in Afghanistan

The initial phase of the war in Afghanistan was successful in dismantling al Qaeda operations, removing the Taliban authority which was harboring al Qaeda, and allowing for the Afghani people to establish a representative government

The Secretary of Defense imposed a cap on the number of ground forces in Afghanistan prior to the war in Iraq

The Bush administration concluded in April 2002 that Osama bin Laden was in Tora Bora, Afghanistan during the battle for Tora Bora in December of 2001 and that the failure to commit the sufficient number of ground forces directly resulted in the failure to capture him

A resurgence of Taliban influence and violence is now occurring in Afghanistan

In the months prior to the war in Iraq, The Secretary of Defense repeatedly and forcefully asserted to Congress and the American people that there was no question that there were weapons of mass destruction in Iraq and that they were a threat to the United States, which is now known to be false

The Secretary of Defense rejected estimates from top military commanders regarding the troop strength that would be required to secure Iraq, failed to anticipate the level of violent opposition among Iraqis to US occupation, and publicly doubted the war in Iraq would take [longer than] six months

The Secretary of Defense expressly forbade his staff to develop a plan for post-war Iraq and threatened to fire anyone who raised the issue

The Secretary of Defense failed to ensure that US troops had adequate protective gear for their mission at the start of the Iraq war, including a shortage of 40,000 protective body armor units, radio frequency jammers to thwart remote detonation of improvised explosive devices, and up-armored high mobility multi-purpose wheeled vehicles (HMMWVs)

Failure of the Secretary of Defense to anticipate the troop strength needed to secure Iraq or to develop a post-war plan resulted in foreign fighters entering the country who have incited attacks against US soldiers and fomented sectarian violence, the latter of which has precipitated a civil war between Sunni and Shia Iraqis

The Secretary of Defense asserted at the start of the Iraq war that Iraqi oil production would pay for the war yet US expenditures in Iraq now exceed $8 billion per month and Iraqi oil production is still below prewar levels

The Secretary of Defense failed to provide the necessary training, supervision, personnel and guidelines for the management of prisoners and detainees which directly led to the abuses at Abu Ghraib prison, severely undermining US efforts to win hearts and minds of the Iraqi people critical to securing Iraq

The Secretary of Defense has failed to address the flagging readiness of US ground forces, in particular the US Army, whose preparedness for war has eroded to levels not witnessed by our country in decades, thus hindering the ability of the US to respond to other potential threats to national security

US armed forces cannot sustain the current operational tempo in Iraq and a large percentage of US troops have done over three tours in Iraq

With 130,000 troops, key measures of success in Iraq have not been met and in some cases are worsening, including: the level of employment; the level of oil production; the level of electricity production; the training of Iraqi security forces; and the number of violent incidents, which have increased from an average of 400 per week before the establishment of an interim Iraqi government in the spring of 2004 to almost 800 per week this year

The Secretary of Defense has failed to ensure adequate accounting of billions of dollars of expenditures of the Coalition Provisional Authority

At the time of the introduction of this resolution, 2,672 US service members have died in Iraq and 337 have died in Afghanistan, exceeding the number of people who died on 9/11; in addition, over 20,000 US service members have been wounded

Terrorism incidents around the world have increased since the US entered Iraq

A survey of 116 top national security experts indicates that eighty-seven percent of them believe the Iraq war has had a negative impact on the war on terrorism while ninety three percent of them believe that the war in Afghanistan has had a positive impact on the war on terrorism

Democrats and Republicans are united against terrorism; Democrats and Republicans are united for a strong military; Democrats and Republicans are united for a strong America

Therefore, be it resolved that --------

It is the sense of the Congress that, for the good of the country, the United States of America must restore credibility both at home and abroad and that the first step toward restoring that credibility must be to demonstrate accountability for the mistakes that have been made in prosecuting the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq by immediately effecting the resignation of Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld and replacing him with someone capable of leading the nation's military in a strategy to resolve our deployment in Iraq, prevent regression in Afghanistan, reconstitute our military readiness, and refocus on the threats to national security posed by diffuse and proliferating terrorist cells as well as belligerent states.

__________________________________

JOHN P. MURTHA

Member of Congress

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/rep-john-murtha/my-resolution-calling-for_b_29346.html


In my opinion, he makes a pretty good case for Rumsfeld's resignation. Discuss.
 
He makes a pretty good case, but he has done this about 3 or 4 times already. It is getting to the point that it is showing as an election year political stunt.
 
I'm kind of with Matt on this one. Rummy has repeatedly said he's not resigning, but here is Murtha again with all of this. I don't disagree with him in the least, but it just seems at some point it starts being futile reflects poorly on him as a publicity stunt rather than on Rummy.

jag
 
jaguarr said:
I'm kind of with Matt on this one. Rummy has repeatedly said he's not resigning, but here is Murtha again with all of this. I don't disagree with him in the least, but it just seems at some point it starts being futile reflects poorly on him as a publicity stunt rather than on Rummy.

jag

Exactly,especially since has been trying to create an image Murtha as the guy who is 'above politics and doing what is best for the troops'.
 
sinewave said:
This was posted on the Huffington Post website and was drafted by Pennsylvania Congressman John Murtha.



http://www.huffingtonpost.com/rep-john-murtha/my-resolution-calling-for_b_29346.html


In my opinion, he makes a pretty good case for Rumsfeld's resignation. Discuss.

Murtha brings up excellent and valid points. Sadly, in my opinion, it will do little good due to Rumself, Bush, and Cheney always finding a way to weasel themselves out of a particular situation.

What Murtha is pointing out has been said a million times over, except no one paid attention then, and part of me feels that quite a few people are too blind due to their devotion to Bush to pay attention now.

My opinion? This will be forgotten in a day or two.
 
True, but after Rumsfeld's statements last week, its good to draw attention to his record. If it gets enough press, yada, yada, yada, whatever. These guys are never going to be held accountable. I don't know why I even bother anymore. I'm so frustrated with the state of things in the country. It's really disheartening.
 
sinewave said:
True, but after Rumsfeld's statements last week, its good to draw attention to his record. If it gets enough press, yada, yada, yada, whatever. These guys are never going to be held accountable. I don't know why I even bother anymore. I'm so frustrated with the state of things in the country. It's really disheartening.

Couldn't agree with you more, man. In a sane world, Bushco would all be tried and imprisoned for war crimes and treason.

jag
 
jaguarr said:
Couldn't agree with you more, man. In a sane world, Bushco would all be tried and imprisoned for war crimes and treason.

jag

Sadly, we don't live in a sane world. We live in a world of with us or against us mentalities. We live in a world where politics have blinded what should be common sense. We live in a world where conservatives will go out of their way to justify what is clearly a violation of international law. We live in a world of Celldogs and Lazurs.

This country is going to hell. :(
 
Murtha's working pretty hard in order to position himself for higher office.


:rolleyes:
 
Matt said:
Sadly, we don't live in a sane world. We live in a world of with us or against us mentalities. We live in a world where politics have blinded what should be common sense. We live in a world where conservatives will go out of their way to justify what is clearly a violation of international law. We live in a world of Celldogs and Lazurs.

This country is going to hell. :(

They aren't even conservatives. They're neo-con's and there's a HUGE difference.

jag
 
cass said:
Murtha's working pretty hard in order to position himself for higher office.


:rolleyes:

That is the stupidest rebuttle I have ever heard. Murtha has absolutely no chance of being nominated for Secretary of Defense. He has nothing to gain by eliminating Rummy.
 
Matt said:
That is the stupidest rebuttle I have ever heard. Murtha has absolutely no chance of being nominated for Secretary of Defense. He has nothing to gain by eliminating Rummy.

I never said Secretary of Defense.

Murtha has everything to gain by consistantly attacking the administration, accusing soldiers of killing in cold blood, etc. moving himself closer to the far left. Positioning himself to be a possible candidate for "majority leader" and maybe even higher ambitions. And the idiots fall for it.
 
jaguarr said:
They aren't even conservatives. They're neo-con's and there's a HUGE difference.

jag

Unfortunately, REAL conservatives are scared to go against the Neo-Con regime and they get caught up in it. Look at John McCain. The man is a conservative, a real conservative. And yet he is deemed as a maverick, liberal. So what does he do? He kisses the administrations ass so the G.O.P. does not destroy him in 2008 like they did in 2000.

What REAL conservatives need is someone like Ross Perot to run again. To be a man who can represent the conservatives like Hippie_Hunter who aren't caught up in this administration's bull****.
 
cass said:
I never said Secretary of Defense.

So what does he gain then by eliminating Rumsfeld? His points are all valid yet you make it out as though he is nothing more than a power monger.
 
Darthphere said:
Why is nobody talking about this????


What is there to talk about? It is all out in the public. Its already been said a million times. The administration won't change it, so whether we like it or not we are stuck with Rummy for 2 more years.
 
Matt said:
What is there to talk about? It is all out in the public. Its already been said a million times. The administration won't change it, so whether we like it or not we are stuck with Rummy for 2 more years.


Can you hold on a second please, im looking for an article that will serve as my rebuttle.
 
cass said:
Murtha's working pretty hard in order to position himself for higher office.


:rolleyes:

did you read his proposal with an open mind, or are you just assuming that murtha's only doing this for personal gain?
 
Darthphere said:
Can you hold on a second please, im looking for an article that will serve as my rebuttle.

heh.
 
Darthphere said:
Why is nobody talking about this????
'cause it's meaningless.
He might as well be calling for an end to illegal drug use or a war on mortality.
 

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