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That doesn't justify the excuse to make a bad movie. But I agree with you, Venom isn't a deep character, and a Venom film doesn't need to be the most deep, reverent type of movie. Those who demand an uber serious Venom movie are kidding themselves and it's something a 15 year old would want. You can make it silly in a fun, enjoyable but in a high quality way. This just looks like they took some good attributes of Venom, not essentials, and made them crap.
My problem is they're doing away the essentials. What makes the character to begin with. His connection to Spider-Man. He comes from Spider-Man. Which is... pretty important.
It just feels weird watching a Venom movie that's unrelated to Spider-man. This feels more like a companion piece to the Spawn movie than anything else.
Homecoming was largely well liked
So? I don't see how this post is any relevant to my post.
My point is public perception is not that Homecoming was a joke. Public perception largely is positive. So for you personally, it being tied to Homecoming may be not that appealing, but on a wider scale, the Venom series being loosely tied to it would draw more interest and I do think more people would like it. I'm not telling you how to personally feel, but your previous comments makes it sound like your belief is people view Homecoming as a joke that is best avoided. When that is not reality.
This.My point is public perception is not that Homecoming was a joke. Public perception largely is positive. So for you personally, it being tied to Homecoming may be not that appealing, but on a wider scale, the Venom series being loosely tied to it would draw more interest and I do think more people would like it. I'm not telling you how to personally feel, but your previous comments makes it sound like your belief is people view Homecoming as a joke that is best avoided. When that is not reality.
KRYPTON INC. said:I have no real affinity for the character but having read Spidey during his initial introduction as well as the early spin off mini series... I'm sorry this looks like Venom to me. And yes that includes all the moments fans are calling "cringe". The tongue action, the weirdness of how this works (Is Eddie changed by the symbiote or is it just like a suit?) the voice and yes even the over the top dialogue... I'm seeing Venom as I remember him. Thing is... I didn't like it then so I'm not seeing a reason to like it now. But I question long time fans' reaction to it all because, well... Venom was never this great character to begin with. What's shown in the trailer is to a large part the distillation of why the character was popular in the first place in my view. Venom's always been over the top cheesy stupid so why wouldn't a movie based on him be over the top cheesy stupid? If someone thinks there is deep and resonant story elements from his post Spidey solo series to be adapted or bring into the film fine, but having read a lot of that stuff I would disagree any of that was every particularly good in any way.
I wouldn't be surprised if this turns out to be Sony's Catwoman.
Glad I wasn't the only one getting a Catwoman vibeI wouldn't be surprised if this turns out to be Sony's Catwoman.
Plus they are making certain things unnecessarily stupid. Brock's Bobby Boucher voice and stupid accent for example.
I agree.Alone there isnt much to him. But putting him against Spider-Man would of added more to the character. Alone without the revenge angle he is rather boring but fighting Spider-Man and stalking him and his loved ones ? Thats where the character shines. His best stories..... are with Spider-Man . Being a villain. Seeking revenge. Spinoff can work somtimes but not all the time
I kinda agree with Krypton's post. I obviously like the character (hence the username) but beyond the design and some initial appearances, there really isn't much to him. I understand he's kind of a one trick pony (Joker's favorite term for him ). And that's fine...not every character needs depth. But unfortunately his popularity has put him into the spotlight of being THE Spidey villain to a lot of people even though there's little justification for it.
I want to see this on screen.
Someone called him Spider-Man, he/they felt offended.