The Israel-Palestine Politics Thread II

[XtremelyBaneful]

I feel like if this was true, it would be bigger news

 

[MessiahDecoy123]

1) Easy to say when it's somebody else.

2) The marches don't do anything by themselves.

1) No bro, easy to say when it me. I'd rather die than kill innocent women and children of any race. I would hope most people feel the same.

2) I dunno. Once public support for a war reaches a certain low point you need too much political capital to continue. That's assuming the warring aggressor is a democracy.

 

[DA_Champion]

1) No bro, easy to say when it me. I'd rather die than kill innocent women and children of any race. I would hope most people feel the same.

2) I dunno. Once public support for a war reaches a certain low point you need too much political capital to continue. That's assuming the warring aggressor is a democracy.

1) You have not been in a situation.

2) Israel's not a democracy.

 

[MagnarTheGreat]

Riding Rage Over Israel to Online Prominence

Jackson Hinkle’s incendiary commentary has generated over two million new followers on X since October — a surge that some researchers say is aided by inauthentic accounts.

www.nytimes.com

 

[blueharvest]

Aid ‘still not reaching Gaza’, as top US official warns famine has started

Samantha Power becomes first US official to confirm famine, while aid workers decry continuing lack of help

www.theguardian.com

 

[blueharvest]

Iranian attack on Israel expected ‘sooner rather than later’, says Joe Biden

President said US are ‘devoted to the defence of Israel’ as he urged Tehran to show restraint

www.theguardian.com

 

[OtherwiseKnownAs]

Welp, it would seem things have escalated.

 

[squeekness]

World War III is coming.

 

[OtherwiseKnownAs]

 

[squeekness]

Isreal's response will be extensive? Or America's s with Isreal hiding behind us from the fight they picked?

 

[Sithborg]

Welp, it would seem things have escalated.

Frankly, the advanced warning Iran itself was giving is a good sign. They sort of had to respond to Israel attacking one of their embassies. That they announced the attack coming from Iran, having to go through a few different country's airspaces before they hit is not exactly a full out attack.

Sadly, it does put into the spotlight why US is never going to stop military support of Israel.

Biden is smart enough not to drag us back into the Middle East during an election year. If it was Trump, well, I'm sure some of his puppet masters would love that. Not sure what Bibi is going to do. He has wanted us to go to war with Iran for a long time.

 

[MagnarTheGreat]

Netanyahu basically bull****ted the U.S. into war with Iraq. Guy is just a historic ghoul.

Kerry Reminds Congress Netanyahu Advised U.S. to Invade Iraq (Published 2015)

Secretary of State John Kerry recalled that Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu of Israel strongly supported the United States’ invasion of Iraq.

www.nytimes.com

Video of Mr. Netanyahu’s 2002 remarks — in which he said “I think the choice of Iraq is a good choice, it’s the right choice” — reveals that he linked his strong support for a United States invasion of Iraq to topple Saddam Hussein with the possibility of inspiring the implosion of the ruling theocracy in neighboring Iran.

 

[squeekness]

Trump would let Iran annihilate Isreal if his promise not to involve ourselves in others' war is true. Either that or he would outright bomb Iran and kickoff World War III.

 

[MagnarTheGreat]

Settlers is a euphemism for land stealers.

 

[squeekness]

Settlers is a euphemism for land stealers.

I agree. Having settlers move in is just a land grab.

 

[DA_Champion]

Iran didn't have a choice but to re-establish deterrence, but it's not clear if they hit anything meaningful. Perhaps that's deliberate to try and avoid a larger war.

Netanyahu is the only protagonist here that wants a wider war.

 

[squeekness]

Iran didn't have a choice but to re-establish deterrence, but it's not clear if they hit anything meaningful. Perhaps that's deliberate to try and avoid a larger war.

Netanyahu is the only protagonist here that wants a wider war.

CNN is reporting any real damage so maybe you're right.

 

[Steyin]

World War III is coming.

WWIII has been going on for years through unconventional means if you ask me.

 

[HBarnill]

Can we please go back to talking about superheroes?

 

[squeekness]

WWIII has been going on for years through unconventional means if you ask me.

I would take this over the mass killing of millions.

 

[squeekness]

Can we please go back to talking about superheroes?

No superheroes in real life.

 

[DA_Champion]

WWIII has been going on for years through unconventional means if you ask me.

History is continuous and our labels are arbitrary. For example the statement that WW2 started on September 1st, 1939 is arbitrary.

But pedantry aside, I take your point. I hope I'm wrong, but I do think we're in the lead up to a large war.

 

[InCali]

Frankly, the advanced warning Iran itself was giving is a good sign. They sort of had to respond to Israel attacking one of their embassies. That they announced the attack coming from Iran, having to go through a few different country's airspaces before they hit is not exactly a full out attack.

Sadly, it does put into the spotlight why US is never going to stop military support of Israel.

Biden is smart enough not to drag us back into the Middle East during an election year. If it was Trump, well, I'm sure some of his puppet masters would love that. Not sure what Bibi is going to do. He has wanted us to go to war with Iran for a long time.

I think that's exactly right. They had to do something, but don't want to get dragged into a regional conflict. Israel seems like the one who's trying to escalate. This one is squarely on Netanyahu and his fellow war mongers.

 

[InCali]

Can we please go back to talking about superheroes?

I'd sure like to.......I freaking despise Netanyahu and if I'm the US, I promise Israel a LOT to get rid of that murderous crook and put him in jail where he belongs.

 

[MagnarTheGreat]

U.S. officials claimed they had no advance knowledge or involvement in Israel’s strike against Iran’s embassy. (April 2)



AJABreaking (Al Jazeera): “Today, according to sources: US President Joe Biden urged Israel not to respond to the Iranian attack”

Live updates: Explosions seen over parts of Jerusalem amid air sirens around Israel

Iran has launched drones toward Israel, IDF spokesman Daniel Hagari said in a statement, in an attack that Tehran had promised to carry out after its embassy in Damascus was hit last week.

www.nbcnews.com

President Joe Biden has privately expressed concern that Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu is trying to drag the U.S. more deeply into a broader conflict, according to three people familiar with his comments.

U.S. officials have privately expressed frustration with Israel’s decision to strike the Iranian consular building in Syria on April 1, saying Israeli leaders did not think through the timing and implications of the attack, including how it might affect negotiations over the release of hostages held by Hamas.

“I don’t think they had a strategy,” the senior administration official said. “The Israelis don’t always make the best strategic decisions.”