Dasher10
I'm like Deadpool IRL
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Does anyone else feel like Phase 4 needs fewer new franchises than Phase 3 since the wait between films is already at four years between Thor installments, there's no new Hulk or Iron Man film and while I feel like War Machine and Black Widow have franchise potential, doing those while also doing Hulk and Iron Man sequels means upping the productions schedule to 4 a year, particularly if the Fantastic Four rights revert.
Increasing the number of franchises means either five films per year which is overkill for a shared universe since at that point, it'll become too hard to follow the overarching narrative since films featuring characters who audiences don't otherwise care about will begin being lost in subsequent films.
I feel like if the Fantastic Four don't revert, then Namor or Ms. Marvel should be done in its place but anything more really is overkill. (I'm actually in favor of both and capping Ant-Man as a trilogy.) Those are the only other two properties which I feel really have feature film potential and can justify a nine figure budget. Ms. Marvel especially since once Spider-Man ages out of high school, Kamala Khan will be needed to get teenage viewers interested in the MCU.
I also feel like there's enough solo material for a one-and-done Vision, Hawkeye, Black Knight, Winter Soldier or Wonder Man film but those can more than be done as a TV movie with a smaller budget of around $30-$50 million (and Wonder Man's origin IMO needs to be done in an Avengers film). I also don't think that there's enough well-regarded Scarlet Witch or Falcon material for a full film franchise.
And anything and everything else really can be done on a TV show's budget. Moon Knight and Elektra fit the Defenders universe on Netflix a bit too well. Shang Chi would need to be done on Netflix since it really does need to be marketed at Asian markets and filmed in Cantonese to be done right and I can't see that working on American network TV, nor as an American-produced blockbuster film. She-Hulk has all the trappings of a TV sitcom. Ghost Rider and Blade both deserve their own network where the two of them can cross over with each other. Preferably on cable where you don't have content restrictions. I feel like they're both stand alone enough to the point where they don't really fit on Netflix but at the same time would feel bowdlerized on ABC and don't fit Freeform's core demographic. Young Avengers, Avengers Academy or Champions would work best on Freeform once Cloak and Dagger gets canceled. Power Pack really works best on Disney Channel since it's drawing in a new demographic with young children. Finally, Thunderbolts has far too many characters for a film. It needs to be done on TV just to ensure that every character gets screen time.
Pretty much anything else is way too obscure. Even Guardians had the Jim Valentino and DnA runs and the Jim Starlin Infinity Watch series alongside the Warlock solo comics so it isn't like there wasn't tons of source material to draw from despite being obscure to general audiences. I don't feel like Marvel can go more obscure. Something like Sentry, Spectrum or Blue Marvel can be done with a supporting role but I really feel like big names are needed to sell leading roles.
Increasing the number of franchises means either five films per year which is overkill for a shared universe since at that point, it'll become too hard to follow the overarching narrative since films featuring characters who audiences don't otherwise care about will begin being lost in subsequent films.
I feel like if the Fantastic Four don't revert, then Namor or Ms. Marvel should be done in its place but anything more really is overkill. (I'm actually in favor of both and capping Ant-Man as a trilogy.) Those are the only other two properties which I feel really have feature film potential and can justify a nine figure budget. Ms. Marvel especially since once Spider-Man ages out of high school, Kamala Khan will be needed to get teenage viewers interested in the MCU.
I also feel like there's enough solo material for a one-and-done Vision, Hawkeye, Black Knight, Winter Soldier or Wonder Man film but those can more than be done as a TV movie with a smaller budget of around $30-$50 million (and Wonder Man's origin IMO needs to be done in an Avengers film). I also don't think that there's enough well-regarded Scarlet Witch or Falcon material for a full film franchise.
And anything and everything else really can be done on a TV show's budget. Moon Knight and Elektra fit the Defenders universe on Netflix a bit too well. Shang Chi would need to be done on Netflix since it really does need to be marketed at Asian markets and filmed in Cantonese to be done right and I can't see that working on American network TV, nor as an American-produced blockbuster film. She-Hulk has all the trappings of a TV sitcom. Ghost Rider and Blade both deserve their own network where the two of them can cross over with each other. Preferably on cable where you don't have content restrictions. I feel like they're both stand alone enough to the point where they don't really fit on Netflix but at the same time would feel bowdlerized on ABC and don't fit Freeform's core demographic. Young Avengers, Avengers Academy or Champions would work best on Freeform once Cloak and Dagger gets canceled. Power Pack really works best on Disney Channel since it's drawing in a new demographic with young children. Finally, Thunderbolts has far too many characters for a film. It needs to be done on TV just to ensure that every character gets screen time.
Pretty much anything else is way too obscure. Even Guardians had the Jim Valentino and DnA runs and the Jim Starlin Infinity Watch series alongside the Warlock solo comics so it isn't like there wasn't tons of source material to draw from despite being obscure to general audiences. I don't feel like Marvel can go more obscure. Something like Sentry, Spectrum or Blue Marvel can be done with a supporting role but I really feel like big names are needed to sell leading roles.