The Worst Big Budget Hollywood Blockbusters

[StarLord]

If I were John Carpenter, I would have called Jack Burton and asked him to go b***h slap Rob's ass!

JC's 'Halloween' is a classic.

 

[Thundarr]

If I were John Carpenter, I would have called Jack Burton and asked him to go b***h slap Rob's ass!

Only problem is RZ is such a freak he might actually enjoy that.

JC's 'Halloween' is a classic.

Agreed 10000%

 

[JJJ's Ulcer]

I've heard this same argument from other people before, such as my sister when we went to see the movie when it first came out, and I just don't get your reasoning. Do you really expect Sarah Connor to be the same innocent, naïve, damsel in distress that she was in the first movie? Don't you think that the burden of her knowledge of what was to come would have weighed heavily on her psyche?

Yes, I do. That doesn't make someone a psycho-killer. The reinvention of her character reads like an early 90's extreme Image comic reboot. It was ridiculous. There were other ways her character could have evolved. There was nothing in the first movie that pointed to her becoming a hardened, gun-toting, innocent person maiming commando. She could have been darker and more desperate without being a cartoon.

Plus I hated John in T2. A petulant, preteen delinquent who just consistently annoyed the crap out of me.

The original Terminator is the only REALLY good Terminator film. T2 has the T-1000, but I still enjoyed Arnie's T-800 as the villain more and I still enjoyed Kyle Reese as the hero more (really? The resistance would send back a robot to protect John? One that looks exactly like the one that tried to off his mother a decade before? Yeah that makes sense).

 

[Spider-Aziz]

The original Terminator is the only REALLY good Terminator film. T2 has the T-1000, but I still enjoyed Arnie's T-800 as the villain more and I still enjoyed Kyle Reese as the hero more (really? The resistance would send back a robot to protect John? One that looks exactly like the one that tried to off his mother a decade before? Yeah that makes sense).

Doesn't make sense, but the concept is interesting and fun

 

[Thundarr]

Yes, I do. That doesn't make someone a psycho-killer. The reinvention of her character reads like an early 90's extreme Image comic reboot. It was ridiculous. There were other ways her character could have evolved. There was nothing in the first movie that pointed to her becoming a hardened, gun-toting, innocent person maiming commando. She could have been darker and more desperate without being a cartoon.

Plus I hated John in T2. A petulant, preteen delinquent who just consistently annoyed the crap out of me.

The original Terminator is the only REALLY good Terminator film. T2 has the T-1000, but I still enjoyed Arnie's T-800 as the villain more and I still enjoyed Kyle Reese as the hero more (really? The resistance would send back a robot to protect John? One that looks exactly like the one that tried to off his mother a decade before? Yeah that makes sense).

So if a Jew were given a chance to travel back in time and put a bullet in Adolph Hitler's brainpan 10 years before he comes to power, you don't think he/she would take it? Damn right he would! In her mind she was totally justified in trying to kill Dyson. He was responsible for the deaths of 3/4 of the people on the planet.

That doesn't make her a psycho killer. It just means she's willing to kill one person to save 4 billion.

 

[JJJ's Ulcer]

So if a Jew were given a chance to travel back in time and put a bullet in Adolph Hitler's brainpan 10 years before he comes to power, you don't think he/she would take it? Damn right he would! In her mind she was totally justified in trying to kill Dyson. He was responsible for the deaths of 3/4 of the people on the planet.

That doesn't make her a psycho killer. It just means she's willing to kill one person to save 4 billion.

Seriously? You're making the Jew-killing-baby-Hitler analogy?

She didn't even try reasoning with him. She just tried to blow his brains out in front of his kid. And he's just one dude at Cyberdyne. If he didn't invent what he did, someone else would have. They had the old T-800's arm.

Does it excuse her character getting institutionalized and taking her doctor hostage and, it's been a while since I saw this, but didn't she break one of his bones or stab him?

No. No, it doesn't. Sarah was smart in the first movie. She knew there was a "gathering storm." That doesn't mean she goes wacko crazy and gets sent to a padded-room. She would have been more intelligent about how she prepares and tries to warn people about the coming robot apocalypse and prevent it in a rational, effective way. Going nutso achieves nothing.

 

[Snow Queen]

I've heard this same argument from other people before, such as my sister when we went to see the movie when it first came out, and I just don't get your reasoning. Do you really expect Sarah Connor to be the same innocent, naïve, damsel in distress that she was in the first movie? Don't you think that the burden of her knowledge of what was to come would have weighed heavily on her psyche? The stress of living off the grid as much as possible? She might have been the same character, but there's no way in Hell she would be the same person, if you understand my meaning. I think the writers did an excellent job on her character. She's no longer just a waitress at a diner trying to get by in life. She's now responsible for the salvation of the entire human race. That's a LOT of pressure for ANYBODY to handle. So I have no problem with the writers deciding that she doesn't handle it all that well.

Don't try to be logical with him, did you not see his list included 2001: A Space Odyssey and The Shining?

 

[StarLord]

There were other ways her character could have evolved. There was nothing in the first movie that pointed to her becoming a hardened, gun-toting, innocent person maiming commando. She could have been darker and more desperate without being a cartoon.

The fact that she's in an institute, not allowed to see her son, is probably still doubting what she saw from the first Terminator showing up and all the while being injected with all sorts of drugs that mess with her already ****** up head?... Not to mention those guards/care workers that were probably abusing and raping her.

That's a neat cartoon.

 

[Thundarr]

Don't try to be logical with him, did you not see his list included 2001: A Space Odyssey and The Shining?

To be honest, I find 2001: A Space Odyssey to be highly over rated. But I wouldn't go so far as to call it the worst big budget blockbuster ever. Just over rated.

 

[Snow Queen]

To be honest, I find 2001: A Space Odyssey to be highly over rated. But I wouldn't go so far as to call it the worst big budget blockbuster ever. Just over rated.

Well, I disagree on overrated but it definitely is far from the worst. I'll drop this here though since this is what really made me appreciate the film and made it go from "well, it was alright" to my fifth favourite film.

http://www.collativelearning.com/2001%20analysis%20new.html

 

[JJJ's Ulcer]

The fact that she's in an institute, not allowed to see her son, is probably still doubting what she saw from the first Terminator showing up and all the while being injected with all sorts of drugs that mess with her already ****** up head?... Not to mention those guards/care workers that were probably abusing and raping her.

That's a neat cartoon.

And she what? Just ended up in the institute magically? Her character in T2 was ridiculously over the top.

 

[:eek:]

Just a few movies that certainly didn't deserve to be blockbusters:

Transformers 1-3
Star Wars prequels
Alice in Wonderland
The Twilight Saga

 

[Spider-Aziz]

If TF was no blockbuster, it would either stop at the first, or the robots would look like Nintendo 64 floating heads

 

[Thundarr]

And she what? Just ended up in the institute magically? Her character in T2 was ridiculously over the top.

So you're saying that if you met a woman on the street who was raving about killer robots from the future traveling back through time to assassinate her, you would think that's perfectly normal behavior and that she isn't in desperate need of medication and some very intense therapy?

 

[Thundarr]

Just a few movies that certainly didn't deserve to be blockbusters:

Transformers 1-3
Star Wars prequels
Alice in Wonderland
The Twilight Saga

I never saw the live action Alice In Wonderland, so I won't comment on that.

The Star Wars Prequels & Twilight Saga I agree on 100000%

As for the Transformers Trilogy? I actually enjoyed them for the most part. I just didn't really like Shameless LaGoof or whatever his name is, or his parents. If they had more compelling human characters I would've liked it more.

 

[Spider-Aziz]

I never saw the live action Alice In Wonderland, so I won't comment on that.

There is an older movie with Whoopie Goldberg playing the cat

 

[Thundarr]

There is an older movie with Whoopie Goldberg playing the cat

Never saw that one either. I do have one that I got for free in a box of Frosted Flakes. I think I only watched it once, and I don't remember who was in it.

 

[JJJ's Ulcer]

So you're saying that if you met a woman on the street who was raving about killer robots from the future traveling back through time to assassinate her, you would think that's perfectly normal behavior and that she isn't in desperate need of medication and some very intense therapy?

My point is, she's smarter than to just rave on the street like a lunatic. She saw Reese in the police interrogation room. She knows that accomplishes nothing. She would have approached the problem from a smarter angle. Maybe attack what Cyberdyne is doing NOW and its possible consequences, rather than claim to be an all-knowing seer. At the very least, she could have hired some people to carry out corporate sabotage on the company. I just think the Sarah from T1 was too saavy and smart to end up in an asylum. It doesn't jibe with the character's original portrayal.

 

[StarLord]

And she what? Just ended up in the institute magically? Her character in T2 was ridiculously over the top.

Yes, the world was about to end. She was way over the top...

 

[DarthSkywalker]

My point is, she's smarter than to just rave on the street like a lunatic. She saw Reese in the police interrogation room. She knows that accomplishes nothing. She would have approached the problem from a smarter angle. Maybe attack what Cyberdyne is doing NOW and its possible consequences, rather than claim to be an all-knowing seer. At the very least, she could have hired some people to carry out corporate sabotage on the company. I just think the Sarah from T1 was too saavy and smart to end up in an asylum. It doesn't jibe with the character's original portrayal.

That is nice in theory, but we are talking about a woman who literally had the world on her shoulders. She was raising the savoir of the human race, knowing that everyday that went by, the end of the world was getting closer. The sheer effort of attempting to prepare John would be enough to drive someone over the edge.

Then there is the whole living through the attempted murder by a robot from the future.

 

[Thundarr]

My point is, she's smarter than to just rave on the street like a lunatic. She saw Reese in the police interrogation room. She knows that accomplishes nothing. She would have approached the problem from a smarter angle. Maybe attack what Cyberdyne is doing NOW and its possible consequences, rather than claim to be an all-knowing seer. At the very least, she could have hired some people to carry out corporate sabotage on the company. I just think the Sarah from T1 was too saavy and smart to end up in an asylum. It doesn't jibe with the character's original portrayal.

She did. She tried to blow them up. That's what got her sent to the asylum in the first place. Or had you forgotten that part?

 

[Warhammer]

Yes, the world was about to end. She was way over the top...

I will say one thing. I feel like Cameron tried to make Sarah Connor too tough at times. Like when the T-1000 is on top of the elevator, Sarah Connor grabs the T-850's pistol and starts shooting at the ceiling. Every time I watch that scene, I think "What the hell is that going to do?"

 

[:eek:]

I will say one thing. I feel like Cameron tried to make Sarah Connor too tough at times. Like when the T-1000 is on top of the elevator, Sarah Connor grabs the T-850's pistol and starts shooting at the ceiling. Every time I watch that scene, I think "What the hell is that going to do?"

I doubt it would be easy to think rationally in a situation like that...

And what else could she had done?

 

[Warhammer]

Let Arnold do what he needed to do. He's the cyborg. That's why she got her back slashed.

 

[The Dark Defender]

I don't think the Twilight movies are big budget blockbusters, just awful movies (although I surprisingly enjoyed the last one, still a terrible series though) that made a ton of money.