Silk in the MCU

[NicoSuave]

So, for those of you who don't know the origin of Silk, Cindy Moon was bitten by the same spider that gave Peter Parker his powers, before that spider died. After which, she was locked in a bunker for 10 years, where she couldn't be detected by the dimension-traveling baddies of the Spider-Verse storyline.

Peter Parker finds that bunker, lets Silk out, and that starts the Spider-Verse storyline.

Marvel and Sony plan to pull a Harry Potter with the casting of Peter Parker, and have someone around the age of 16 literally grow up with the role. That means that by 2026, whoever they casted to play Peter will be around the age of 26, which would be 10 years after getting bitten by the spider...

So, do you think that we could potentially see the Spider-Verse storyline, and Cindy Moon/Silk in the MCU in 10 years?

 

[SirStrangefolk]

I don't think Spider-Verse is a good storyline to adapt to film. A major part of the appeal of it was all the AU Spider-people in it. Probably none of those will make an appearance before 2026, so they won't be recognized by the GA. Also, I don't think a lot of people would want to sit through a film's length of many Spider-Men (and women) travelling through the multiverse. It would probably just be confusing. (and all the jokes with versions of Spider-Man from cartoons, manga, video games, Japanese live-action shows from 1978, etc. won't work.)

As for Silk, right now I really don't care for her and I think we'll have to wait to see what happens to her popularity in a couple of years.

Also, people seem to want Miles Morales more than Silk, and to have more than 2 people bitten by radioactive/genetically enhanced spiders will also seem like a bit of a stretch.

 

[Silvermoth]

I would love to see silk in a movie. Probably won't happen in the MCU but maybe sonyverse?

Anyway, you know where else she would be great? A lego spider-man game

 

[def28]

Silk's been a cool character so sure.

I hope what they do since they want to focus on a young Parker is use that as a gateway to introduce younger characters. So possibly Silk, Kamala, Kate Bishop, Runaways, Morales, Ava Ayala etc

 

[Silvermoth]

Who could play her though?

Michelle ang looks like a good fit to me

 

[Mr_336]

God, no! I don't want anything of Slott's or the last eight years of BND status quo stories popping up on film in any compacity.

 

[NicoSuave]

I would love to see silk in a movie. Probably won't happen in the MCU but maybe sonyverse?

Anyway, you know where else she would be great? A lego spider-man game

The MCU and Sonyverse are a shared space now, so there's nothing stopping her from appearing in both. Definitely YES to her being in a Lego game! Lego games are my ****!

Who could play her though?

Michelle ang looks like a good fit to me

Again, you'd have to wait for about 10 years from now before introducing her to the films.

God, no! I don't want anything of Slott's or the last eight years of BND status quo stories popping up on film in any compacity.

People said the Guardians Of The Galaxy would suck as a movie, because they sucked as a comic, and they ended up being great.

Silk is a cool character, and whatever issues you have with her author, that shouldn't make her ineligible from appearing in a movie one day.

 

[Mr_336]

the mcu and sonyverse are a shared space now, so there's nothing stopping her from appearing in both. Definitely yes to her being in a lego game! Lego games are my ****!

Again, you'd have to wait for about 10 years from now before introducing her to the films.

People said the guardians of the galaxy would suck as a movie, because they sucked as a comic, and they ended up being great.

Silk is a cool character, and whatever issues you have with her author, that shouldn't make her ineligible from appearing in a movie one day.

iyho...

 

[SirStrangefolk]

People said the Guardians Of The Galaxy would suck as a movie, because they sucked as a comic, and they ended up being great.

Wait what? They might not have been the most well known characters, but that doesn't mean the quality of their comics was bad.

 

[R_Hythlodeus]

God, no! I don't want anything of Slott's or the last eight years of BND status quo stories popping up on film in any compacity.

wait what?

 

[def28]

People said the Guardians Of The Galaxy would suck as a movie, because they sucked as a comic, and they ended up being great.

Silk is a cool character, and whatever issues you have with her author, that shouldn't make her ineligible from appearing in a movie one day.

I don't think people who actually read the comic said that at all. Abnett and Lanning's run was well received. It just wasn't well known, so people assumed it wouldn't be popular since they were mostly unknown D listers and more heavy on the Sci Fi side of things.

I agree with Silk.

 

[NicoSuave]

I'd like to apologize to the GOTG. I don't read any comics older than 2005, so I have no idea whether the sucked as an old comic or not. I do like their current comics though.

 

[SirStrangefolk]

I'd like to apologize to the GOTG. I don't read any comics older than 2005, so I have no idea whether the sucked as an old comic or not. I do like their current comics though.

The team the movie was based on appeared first in 2008 though. The old comics were pretty much a completely different team that happened to have the same name. And while the members of the team did all appear before, almost all of them went through a major change recently or were very recent creations in the first place.

 

[NicoSuave]

The team the movie was based on appeared first in 2008 though. The old comics were pretty much a completely different team that happened to have the same name. And while the members of the team did all appear before, almost all of them went through a major change recently or were very recent creations in the first place.

Well, regardless, bad/unpopular comic doesn't equal a bad movie. To use a better example, Batroc the Leaper was one of the most laughed-at villains in Marvel's pocket...

And then the greatest Welterweight in MMA history, Georges St-Pierre got the opportunity to portray him in Winter Soldier, and actually made Batroc look like a credible bad guy.

Point being, if you play the right cards, you can make chicken salad out of chicken ****. And since Silk is the farthest thing from chicken ****, all that's left to do is play the right cards, and you will likely have a badass chicken salad.

 

[BarryAllen]

I don't know. Her origin (along with many of the Spidey spinoff characters) are some of the most convoluted and contrived pieces of **** that I've read. It works in comics, but when you have multiple people being bitten by a spider (especially if it's the same one that bit Peter), you lessen the impact of it being an accident (because it happens so often) and it lessens the uniqueness of Spider-man.

 

[Chance Jackson]

I don't know. Her origin (along with many of the Spidey spinoff characters) are some of the most convoluted and contrived pieces of **** that I've read. It works in comics, but when you have multiple people being bitten by a spider (especially if it's the same one that bit Peter), you lessen the impact of it being an accident (because it happens so often) and it lessens the uniqueness of Spider-man.

Then you give her a new origin. The USM book tweaked Spidey's Origin and so did the 1st movie I don't see why that can't be done with Silk or Spider-Gwen etc

 

[Flint Marko]

I love Spider-man, but I know nothing about Silk, and everything I've heard about the character sounds ridiculous. There are dozens of other characters that deserve the spotlight before her.

 

[def28]

I do agree there are characters we need to get to before. Black Cat really needs to show up.

She's a cool character though, and a fairly popular one given how new she is. Most the hate I read is from the anti Slott fans, or ones that are unable to accept anything on the newer side of things from the Spidey world.

Be it Black Cat, Silver Sable or Silk the Spidey franchise does need to introduce some female characters who have fighting skills.

 

[Flint Marko]

I do agree there are characters we need to get to before. Black Cat really needs to show up.

She's a cool character though, and a fairly popular one given how new she is. Most the hate I read is from the anti Slott fans, or ones that are unable to accept anything on the newer side of things from the Spidey world.

Be it Black Cat, Silver Sable or Silk the Spidey franchise does need to introduce some female characters who have fighting skills.

Why does the Spidey franchise need that? There's a lot his movies need, but I'm not sure that's one of them. I'm not necessarily disagreeing with you, I just think that's pretty far down on the list of things that this reboot absolutely has to have.

 

[def28]

Why does the Spidey franchise need that? There's a lot his movies need, but I'm not sure that's one of them. I'm not necessarily disagreeing with you, I just think that's pretty far down on the list of things that this reboot absolutely has to have.

All my pov of course but there's a few reasons, one cause I just think those characters are interesting and I see zero issues with adding them into the world here. Black Cat has been delayed far too long. They don't need to really replace villains or anything, so they can switch the world up a bit here with them. Also cause we have had 5 films already that are still fresh in peoples mind, and it would be nice to actually see something new without going outside the realm of adding things that completely don't belong. Female character wise I personally would much rather see somoeone who can interact with him more as Spidey. With parker now allegedly being stuck in high School for awhile why not not have some of the students have powers?

Amazing Spider-Man 1's biggest fault imo was retreading similar origins too soon. While I'm not saying don't add MJ, Gwen or Liz I just don't want to see the same love stories right off the bat. Start to build so we can get there so it's a bigger deal when we do. But for now give him some new obstacles. A character like Black Cat who is actually in love with Spider-Man and not Parker adds a different lesson in there before he can jump into familiar territory again. That's gonna grab my attention more cause it's new. Give Parker an edgy gal who drives him the wrong way about himself.

Whatever they do, I trust Marvel here so I'm not too worried. Just hope to see some characters explored more who were pushed to the side or could offer something new to the table. Marvel's great at that.

 

[MbJ]

I think they're hesitant to use Black Cat because to most people she'd seem like a rip off of Catwoman. I'm not sure how you'd go about differentiating them.

I'd love to see Silk. That'd be awesome.

 

[def28]

I think they're hesitant to use Black Cat because to most people she'd seem like a rip off of Catwoman. I'm not sure how you'd go about differentiating them.

I don't think that's been the case, they were planning on using versions of her in Spider-Man 2, Spider-Man 4 and Amazing Spider-Man 3 with the intro of Felecia. These films have had the issue of too many characters and being canceled.

Eventually they are gonna use her, she's a very significant and popular Spidey character so I really don't see Marvel being worried about that. Not using her because she is similar is pretty much folding a character cause of DC. In a time where we have two Quicksilver's I really don't see the issue.

 

[NicoSuave]

As the dude who started this thread, let me state that Felecia Hardy should ABSOLUTELY be added to the mix before Silk (should she ever be included). She's more established, and her movie debut is long overdue.

The thing that needs to seriously be concentrated on is that whoever gets to be the next Peter Parker is going to literally grow up with the role, and be featured in a multitude of Marvel/Sony films, starting with Civil War, his own film in 2017, and the Infinity Wars.

There are more platforms in place now for the Spider-Man Universe to grow on the MCU. Venom can debut with Guardians of the Galaxy. I heard a rumor a while back that Shocker could pop up in Civil War. Jessica Drew could eventually join the Agents Of S.H.I.E.L.D. And those are just examples of the Spidy guys coming over to the Marvel side of the table. I didn't mention the Marvel guys that can pop on over to the Sony side because it has little to do with my point.

And my point is that with so many mediums now in place to showcase a superhero literally growing up before our eyes, that allows for a large amount of time to cover more ground of the universe around him.

Within 10 after Civil War (Spider-Man's MCU debut), which would be 2026, we'll have a 26-year-old Peter Parker. Within those 10 years, it's a fair assumption to make that we've been (re)introduced to certain villains, Peter's love life has made its way back to the spotlight, Flash Thompson is a purple heart recipient, and Miles Morales is within his early teens (whether or not he has powers yet, that's up to you).

So after covering all those aspects of the Spider-Man universe in the MCU, over the span of 10 years, through multiple movies, TV shows, and One Shots, you're in a position to get creative with introducing new material.

While Spider-Verse may not be the best storyline to adapt to a movie, Silk is certainly a character that you can adapt into the MCU after Spider-Man has been in there for 10 years. You'd have to tweak things a little bit, but still, a way would be worked out for her to find her footing.

 

[def28]

Doesn't need to be 10 years to introduce Silk at all, should be no issues if she showed up in 2 or 3 years after the first flick. It's not difficult to add her in if they want her a part of the film series.

Of course this world she be expanded.

Edit:...and Venom should not debut with GOTG. Hint at the Symbiote maybe, but Venom himself no way.

 

[NicoSuave]

Doesn't need to be 10 years to introduce Silk at all, should be no issues if she showed up in 2 or 3 years after the first flick. It's not difficult to add her in if they want her a part of the film series.

True, but I've been a member here long enough now to know that some of you guys freak out when certain changes are made between the comics and movies, and I realize she's still a fairly new character, so I felt like waiting a certain amount of time to use her would've been a good way to introduce her while remaining close to the origins.

and Venom should not debut with GOTG.

The villain Venom, no. Agent Venom, no. The Symbiote planet however, you could make it work.