Civil War The Civil War "ANYTHING GOES" Thread - ENTER AT YOUR OWN RISK - NO SPOILER TAGS REQ.!

[JtheDreamer]

Summary of the airport fight ?

Basically they're trying to stop Cap and Bucky from getting to a Quinjet that they need to use to get to Siberia to stop Zemo.

Ant-man and Spiderman steal the show. Rhodey suffers severe injuries that affect his ability to walk courtesy of an errant blast from Vision. Black Panther shows off some badass moves. Again, it's not a fight where they're looking to hurt each other.

Widow switches sides the moment Cap and Bucky get to the Quinjet and BP was closing in on them. She's the reason they evade BP.

 

[danoyse]

It's not even a fight where they're trying to hurt each other. What you see is the equivalent of brothers with superpowers wrestling each other in the house when mom and dad are gone.

Well, since it was really just about keeping one group from getting to the quinjet, that's all it was meant to be. They weren't out to do more damage than they wanted to, even though all hell broke loose.

 

[AvengerPA]

At the end of the Age of Ultron, why was Scarlet Witch allowed to join the Avengers, and not imprisoned for her evil acts?

 

[Broseph44]

At the end of the Age of Ultron, why was Scarlet Witch allowed to join the Avengers, and not imprisoned for her evil acts?

Seriously?

 

[terry78]

They knew she had been manipulated by Strucker and Ultron. All the Avengers could understand that pov.

 

[DN91]

Well, since it was really just about keeping one group from getting to the quinjet, that's all it was meant to be. They weren't out to do more damage than they wanted to, even though all hell broke loose.

If anything, that final fight with Cap vs. Iron Man seemed like two people who really wanted to hurt each other. And with good reason for both.

 

[terry78]

Yeah, the last fight was pretty much a bromance gone bad. Emotionally they had both felt betrayed.

 

[danoyse]

If anything, that final fight with Cap vs. Iron Man seemed like two people who really wanted to hurt each other. And with good reason for both.

Definitely. That was the scary fight.

Our crowd went nuts for "I could do this all day!"

 

[danoyse]

Yeah, the last fight was pretty much a bromance gone bad. Emotionally they had both felt betrayed.

Especially Cap admitting he knew. Goddammit, Cap...

 

[winterpanther]

Loving these comments.
I was wondering, do Bucky and Sam have any other moments/interaction beyond the aforementioned car scene and when they see Steve kiss Sharon? Like, what's their relationship/interaction like?
Second, what about Bucky and T'Challa? Besides their fight scenes and the post credits scene, do they actually interact? Like talk to each other or even throw one liners at each other?
Thanks!

 

[Unbreakable Lex]

Especially Cap admitting he knew. Goddammit, Cap...

Cemented me on Team Ironman.

 

[Mister J]

If anything, that final fight with Cap vs. Iron Man seemed like two people who really wanted to hurt each other. And with good reason for both.

Yeah, that was bad. Understandable, but yeesh. On top of that, I thought Tony was really trying to **** up Bucky, which was again, understandable. Some of those attacks, man. There was one extended repulsor blast that I'm pretty sure would have made two Buckys.

 

[Unbreakable Lex]

Loving these comments.
I was wondering, do Bucky and Sam have any other moments/interaction beyond the aforementioned car scene and when they see Steve kiss Sharon? Like, what's their relationship/interaction like?

They both get thoroughly trashed by Spider-man and have a few funny comments while they both are laid out.

Second, what about Bucky and T'Challa? Besides their fight scenes and the post credits scene, do they actually interact? Like talk to each other or even throw one liners at each other?
Thanks!

There isn't much interaction between them. T'Challa is the one that brings Zemo to justice so he knew he was after the wrong guy which leads to the mid-credit scene.

 

[kingskipper28]

Cemented me on Team Ironman.

Why? Bucky was didn't ask to be brainwashed, why do people fail to understand it wasn't his fault?

 

[Poison Ivy]

Do you see Rhodey at the end of the movie? Is he in a wheelchair?

 

[danoyse]

Why? Bucky was didn't ask to be brainwashed, why do people fail to understand it wasn't his fault?

It wasn't just about Bucky anymore. It was because Cap knew what he'd done to Tony's parents and hadn't told Tony.

Cap knew he was wrong too. He wrote later that he thought he was protecting Tony, but the reality was, he was protecting himself.

 

[DN91]

Do you see Rhodey at the end of the movie? Is he in a wheelchair?

At the end, Rhodey is seen with a robotic leg having trouble walking with Tony helping him up. Then Stan Lee shows up in a very funny cameo to give Tony the package containing Steve's letter.

 

[Mister J]

Agreed. As much fun as it was to see them all bashing the crap out of each other, it was tough to watch that friendship break apart while you could see they still geniunely cared about each other - even more so in the third act when you find how complicated (and potentially irreparable) their conflict is.

I also liked that while (to me, anyway) Tony's choices seemed to be the more arrogant at first, as the story went along you could see how he still had a point. Especially with Wanda, and how it became apparent how out-of-control and dangerous her powers were. It seemed like a **** move to "lock her in her room"...but now maybe it wasn't?

And I loved Cap sending Tony a handwritten letter at the end. So fitting for Cap.

I liked the letter too. It allowed for somewhat of a hopeful ending and speaks to reconciliation... which will be necessary because, you know, Mad Titan comin'. It appealed on a personal note because I fully expected a more depressing or desolate ending and I unexpectedly got something closer to what I wanted.

 

[Iceman]

Btw, thanks for bringing this up again on the next page, because I was waiting to get that Godzilla jab in for a while now.

You can rely on me I had a feeling something the people deserve/need to hear was coming so I couldn't let it go unsaid.

I think he just means 'thinner'. He doesn't carry the same body type as a younger lad. It adds to the visual. Think of the difference in frame between a late teenager and an adult.

Skinnier. They made him look 16.

Oh right thanks, makes sense.

It's not even a fight where they're trying to hurt each other. What you see is the equivalent of brothers with superpowers wrestling each other in the house when mom and dad are gone.

Are Thor and Hulk mom and dad?

Zemo has the potential to be. Bruhl's acting chops are pretty apparent.

You think he'll be back?

 

[DN91]

I liked the letter too. It allowed for somewhat of a hopeful ending and speaks to reconciliation... which will be necessary because, you know, Mad Titan comin'. It appealed on a personal note because I fully expected a more depressing or desolate ending and I unexpectedly got something closer to what I wanted.

I saw the letter (and Tony ignoring Ross's call about the Raft breakout) as an implication that there will come a day that the Avengers will assemble to protect the world.

 

[Mister J]

I saw the letter (and Tony ignoring Ross's call about the Raft breakout) as an implication that there will come a day that the Avengers will assemble to protect the world.

Yeah, and maybe we can actually hear the goddamn call this time.

Probably not until Infinity War, Part II tho.

 

[Iceman]

At the end, Rhodey is seen with a robotic leg having trouble walking with Tony helping him up. Then Stan Lee shows up in a very funny cameo to give Tony the package containing Steve's letter.

Oh good. At least he isn't going to stay fully crippled. I hope he is back for Infinity War, at least Part 2. This was at least a much better option than killing him off.

 

[Broseph44]

Yeah, and maybe we can actually hear the goddamn call this time.

Probably not until Infinity War, Part II tho.

You know we will hear the call haha

 

[kingskipper28]

It wasn't just about Bucky anymore. It was because Cap knew what he'd done to Tony's parents and hadn't told Tony.

Cap knew he was wrong too. He wrote later that he thought he was protecting Tony, but the reality was, he was protecting himself.

Because he knew Tony would react violently even though Bucky couldn't help his actions because of mind control. Cap's decision makes sense to protect his friend. But I guess this is why the ending is "controversial".

Edit: If anyone Tony should be mad at Hydra.

 

[Tymminator]

We need an mcu power level ranking now.

I was kind of suprised the didn't use those types of grids in the MCU guidebooks.