Deadpool 2 Tim Miller exits Deadpool 2

I don't see anyone dismissing Miller's contributions to the success of the first film. But I don't think that this is a huge obstacle in the way of the sequel being successful. Get a capable director who knows the character and the material, and it'll be in good hands. Easier said than done of course, but I don't think Deadpool was lightning in a bottle that will be difficult to recreate.
 
Most people somehow think that all that directors do is point the camera and tell actors what to do.
I am shocked at some of these responses. So The Dark Knight would have been just as good with another director? The director didn't matter??? I mean what am I reading?

And I'm definitely not dismissing the sequel because they're getting another director but there is no need to trash Miller.
 
I am shocked at some of these responses. So The Dark Knight would have been just as good with another director? The director didn't matter??? I mean what am I reading?

But people will tell you that it's not the same, and that Ryan Reynolds and the screenwriters are on board, thinking that nothing will change at all with that.
 
‘Deadpool 2’ Drama: Here’s What Ryan Reynolds and Director Tim Miller Clashed Over (Exclusive)

The departure was “amicable,” a studio source said, though we’ve heard elsewhere that Reynolds and Miller have had a contentious relationship for quite a while now. The two haven’t had much of a relationship since the first “Deadpool” was released, not even speaking for long periods of time.


So, what happened to create such a rift between Miller and the actor whose career he helped resurrect?
We’re told the director was all set to make the sequel, which still doesn’t even have a release date. That’s allegedly in part because when Reynolds’ agents renegotiated his deal, along with a massive amount of money, the star got casting approval and other creative controls. That whole process took more time than Miller (and fans) would have liked, and it shined a spotlight on differences in vision between the two key players.

Miller, who owns a visual effects studio and we’re told did much of the polishing work on the original “Deadpool” for free, wanted more of a stylized sequel, while the actor placed his focus more on the raunchy comedy style that earned the first movie its R rating. The casting issue also eventually came to a head over Kyle Chandler‘s rumored participation. Miller wanted the “Bloodline” star to play Cable, though Reynolds did not. Ultimately, the studio backed its marketable star, and the man behind the camera packed up his lenses.


This parting of ways should have both fans and the studio spooked. After all, Miller’s fingerprints are all over the first film, which was a surprise box office smash hit. Per Box Office Mojo, “Deadpool” hauled in north of $782 million globally on a budget of $58 million. Domestically, the comic book adaptation made $363 million.
 
But people will tell you that it's not the same, and that Ryan Reynolds and the screenwriters are on board, thinking that nothing will change at all with that.
I'll hear them out when it comes to the screenwriters but not when it comes to Reynolds. Actors get far too much undeserved credit as as.
 
So, pretty much what we speculated in the News & Discussion thread. mmkay.

Though the most interesting part has to be Reynolds wanting more focus on the comedy and Miller wanting more focus on the spectacle.
 
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I am shocked at some of these responses. So The Dark Knight would have been just as good with another director? The director didn't matter??? I mean what am I reading?

And I'm definitely not dismissing the sequel because they're getting another director but there is no need to trash Miller.

I am not shocked at all. From my reading of certain boards, such as the BvS and ASM boards, it seems a huge chunk of the board has no clue what a director does or how important he/she is.
 
I'll hear them out when it comes to the screenwriters but not when it comes to Reynolds. Actors get far too much undeserved credit as as.

Well, Ryan Reynolds was a producer on the first one and had a huge hand in getting the movie made.

But still, Tim Miller is in no way as disposable as people are making him out to be. AT ALL.
 
Honest question, who is making him out to be disposable?
 
Most tumultuous creative break-ups in Hollywood are claimed to be 'amicable' before the real truth comes out.
 
So, pretty much what we speculated in the News & Discussion thread. mmkay.

Though the most interesting part has to be Reynolds wanting more focus on the comedy and Miller wanting more focus on the spectacle.

That gives me more cause for concern regarding the follow up. Just giving the fans more of what worked in the first one is a mistake and Miller had the right idea in wanting to mix things up in the sequel.
 
I am not shocked at all. From my reading of certain boards, such as the BvS and ASM boards, it seems a huge chunk of the board has no clue what a director does or how important he/she is.
Dude, you have a point. I suppose I shouldn't be surprised.
 
That gives me more cause for concern regarding the follow up. Just giving the fans more of what worked in the first one is a mistake and Miller had the right idea in wanting to mix things up in the sequel.

Personally I would've liked a combination of the two respective approaches. Turn up the comedy and the stylized violence. Not sure why they couldn't work in tandem since both elements would be present regardless.
 
That gives me more cause for concern regarding the follow up. Just giving the fans more of what worked in the first one is a mistake and Miller had the right idea in wanting to mix things up in the sequel.

Great.

So we're swapping a potentially ambitious sequel, which would have mixed things up with a grander story for a potential 'typical comedy sequel,' which focuses too much on the comedy, and forgets all the other elements?

Here's my take on it: Tim Miller probably wanted to go all out with Cable's inclusion, and make a sequel which would juggle his heroism with Deadpool's off-kilter comedy. So more of a Lethal Weapon (1) instead of Leathal Weapon 3 or 4. Which I think is what we'll be getting. A lighter version of Deadpool, which will focus too much on the comedy (just switch Colossus with Cable) and ultimately bring few new things to the table.

Wonderful!

Ryan Reynolds seems to be on a real (ego) trip with this one.
 
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Personally I thought what made Deadpool special was the film's romance. That romance brought heart and soul to the proceedings. I hope Deadpool 2 isn't another soulless raunchy comedy.
 
That gives me more cause for concern regarding the follow up. Just giving the fans more of what worked in the first one is a mistake and Miller had the right idea in wanting to mix things up in the sequel.

He did say he wanted to mix it up in the sense of not going bigger and having more villains.
From what little I have been able to gather from the Collider interview he wanted to expand the scope of his shots, make it look less indie. At the same time, he praised the fact the R-rating of the movie worked because it was funny.

So, I am to conclude that they want to stick to/push that angle in order to maintain the appeal.
 
Personally I thought what made Deadpool special was the film's romance. That romance brought heart and soul to the proceedings. I hope Deadpool 2 isn't another soulless raunchy comedy.

What made Deadpool so special was how it mixed everything beautifully together.

And yeah, including the comedy. But also the fact that when it got serious, it really did.

It's not a spoof. And not just a comedy. It juggled all those different tones, without ever half-assing them.

My hype for the sequel dropped incredibly. I'm seriously bummed out!
 
Most tumultuous creative break-ups in Hollywood are claimed to be 'amicable' before the real truth comes out.

Remember Trank Leaving Star Wars?:sly:

EDIT: Sorry for the typos. I was using my phone ababa.
 
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Remember Tank Keavibg Starks Was?:sly:

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I don't see anyone dismissing Miller's contributions to the success of the first film. But I don't think that this is a huge obstacle in the way of the sequel being successful. Get a capable director who knows the character and the material, and it'll be in good hands. Easier said than done of course, but I don't think Deadpool was lightning in a bottle that will be difficult to recreate.
Capable director's don't make great movies. Hell great directors already have that struggle. Deadpool was great, and the vast majority of that was how it was directed and put together. That is all the director. This is horrible.
 
I'll hear them out when it comes to the screenwriters but not when it comes to Reynolds. Actors get far too much undeserved credit as as.
You mean Ryan Reynolds isn't Daniel Day-Lewis? :o
 
Capable director's don't make great movies. Hell great directors already have that struggle. Deadpool was great, and the vast majorit of that was how it was directed and put together. That is all the director. This is horrible.

Exactly. And anyone remember why Deadpool got a green light?

Because of that incredible test footage. And guess who put THAT ONE together? Not 'Capable director #1.' Tim Miller did!

Ryan Reynolds had a huge hand in getting the movie made and protecting the movie.

But Tim Miller developed Deadpool with him and the writers for five years, and took 'Reynold's baby' and turned it into a great movie.
 
What made Deadpool so special was how it mixed everything beautifully together.

And yeah, including the comedy. But also the fact that when it got serious, it really did.

It's not a spoof. And not just a comedy. It juggled all those different tones, without ever half-assing them.

My hype for the sequel dropped incredibly. I'm seriously bummed out!
I get you. I'm not in despair mode right now but I am in side eyeing mode.
 

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