A New Era for the Wrestling Thread

[Holy Slapper]

Happy now, Zelina simps?

 

[Lobo]

Liv losing to Carmella is stupid. I am 100% Shayna will win the tournament

As for the men all hail king Woods!

 

[TheFuture]

Happy now, Zelina simps?

Not until she's Queen Zelina.

 

[Dr. Evil]

Liv losing to Carmella is stupid. I am 100% Shayna will win the tournament

As for the men all hail king Woods!

I think a Prince will become a king

 

[cyclone]

Liv losing to Carmella is stupid. I am 100% Shayna will win the tournament

As for the men all hail king Woods!

I'm convinced Vince has propositioned Liv at some point and she's refused him. He gives her nothing and it's starting to feel a bit personal like he has a problem with her. She's so over with the fans and he seems to be actively trying to break/bring her down.

Wild statement, no proof, probably unfair to suggest but just a feeling!

 

[TheFuture]

I'm convinced Vince has propositioned Liv at some point and she's refused him. He gives her nothing and it's starting to feel a bit personal like he has a problem with her. She's so over with the fans and he seems to be actively trying to break/bring her down.

Wild statement, no proof, probably unfair to suggest but just a feeling!

It's the opposite for me, as I think Vince has given Liv more chances than most others would get. How many times he has tried repackaging her? From Riott Squad to lesbian to Riott Squad again to white meat Babyface (and then a few shifts in between that I can't remember).

I believe Liv is talented to an extent but it's hard to distinguish her from the pack in WWE.

 

[Lobo]

Riot Squad should have had a tag title run. They break up every woman's tag team though. Nox and Shotzi beat the champs multiple times then never get the title shot and are broken up.

The fans like Liv she's a decent mid card face for the women. Still wonder how it would have gone if they went through with her as Sister Abigail.

I'm not saying she should have been Queen but she should have Barry Carmela. She just recently is best her at the ppv

 

[Dr. Evil]

 

[javonstokess]

Happy now, Zelina simps?

I'm not a simp for her, but I do think she deserves a push. Having her win the tournament gives her a nice push without rocketing her directly to the title. It's how you slowly build someone into something worth watching.

 

[Holy Slapper]

I'm not a simp for her, but I do think she deserves a push. Having her win the tournament gives her a nice push without rocketing her directly to the title. It's how you slowly build someone into something worth watching.

Shayna's winning the tournament and becomes the true Queen Of Spades.

 

[Hunter Rider]

 

[Hunter Rider]

 

[Shinobi Shaw]

Me and my friend got tickets for Survivor Series in Barclays next month. Been to house shows and a Smack Down taping before, but this’ll be my first pay per view.

It better be good lol.

 

[TheFuture]

Shayna's winning the tournament and becomes the true Queen Of Spades.

And Shayna needs it as much as Sheamus or Corbin did.

Looking at it logically, I don't see it in Baszler's gimmick to wear a crown. Now if she won it and then destroyed the whole Queen set up that's presented to her, that I could buy.

 

[NDX]

Me and my friend got tickets for Survivor Series in Barclays next month. Been to house shows and a Smack Down taping before, but this’ll be my first pay per view.

It better be good lol.

Is there a Takeover taking place beforehand because that was where the money was at before each SummerSlam I went to.

 

[Shinobi Shaw]

Is there a Takeover taking place beforehand because that was where the money was at before each SummerSlam I went to.

I heard the NXT shows were the real draw a few years back. But no, there’s not one for this event unfortunately.

 

[Dr. Evil]

First NXT UK show in front of fans on Thursday with A-Kid vs. Ilja Dragonov for NXT UK Championship

 

[NDX]

I heard the NXT shows were the real draw a few years back. But no, there’s not one for this event unfortunately.

Each Takeover upped the ante every year while SummerSlam petered out halfway through or even peaked at the preshow (the Usos and New Day were robbed that weekend and made the rest of the card pay for that).

 

[Hunter Rider]

 

[Dr. Evil]

I heard the NXT shows were the real draw a few years back. But no, there’s not one for this event unfortunately.

With fans coming back, I can see NXT UK using the Takeover name for their major events.

 

[Holy Slapper]

If the strike begins on Monday, there will be no televised WWE or AEW shows.

 

[NDX]

Oh no.

What a travesty.

Whatever shall we do.

It's saddening to me that I feel I've lost almost all interest in wrestling these last 3 weeks. Even the first House of Glory show in 2 years I've lost interest in going to. I just don't want to put the effort in, and I've never felt this completely dejected by wrestling. Maybe it's time to move on, or at least step away for a few.

 

[TheVileOne]

I think there are a lot of women on the WWE roster not getting a fair shake.

At the same time, not everyone can be champion at the same time, even with multiple titles.

I don't think it's a matter of Liv turning down McMahon. I just think this is how it is with WWE. They sort of tear everyone down and don't really get behind them unless they think they are Roman Reigns level or whatever. It's always an uphill battle. Even when they are getting over and connect with the fans, they still ignore them.

Look at Rusev. Everything post John Cena with Rusev was basically sabotage. For a year, WWE made Rusev a monster heel. Then they jobbed him out to Cena and had nothing for him. Strikes gold with Rusev Day, gets that over, sells lots of merch, and they still treat him like dirt.

 

[TheFuture]

I think there are a lot of women on the WWE roster not getting a fair shake.

At the same time, not everyone can be champion at the same time, even with multiple titles.

I don't think it's a matter of Liv turning down McMahon. I just think this is how it is with WWE. They sort of tear everyone down and don't really get behind them unless they think they are Roman Reigns level or whatever. It's always an uphill battle. Even when they are getting over and connect with the fans, they still ignore them.

Look at Rusev. Everything post John Cena with Rusev was basically sabotage. For a year, WWE made Rusev a monster heel. Then they jobbed him out to Cena and had nothing for him. Strikes gold with Rusev Day, gets that over, sells lots of merch, and they still treat him like dirt.

I think Toxic Attraction perfectly encapsulate what's wrong with the women's division as a whole in WWE; you have 50 year old plus men sending them out there to cut the worst promos ever (think universe mode in the 2K games) about how they're there to take over....every week. It's the same promo and over the top deranged expressions from Gigi, thinking this is going to appeal to either men or women from their teens all the way up to mid to late 20s.

This is a catchphrase of mine at this stage, but it's criminal that this is what they're putting front and centre in a women's division so full of talent. It boggles the mind.

It's even creeping into their top tier in the division watching that **** show of a tag match on Raw. I'm not a woman and would appreciate a woman's perspective, but surely watching Banks and Bel Air, and Becky and Charlotte, being absolute *****es to each other instead of being competitive is not the thing you want to see from such talented athletes. Speaking of those women, Crown Jewel will be very interesting to see how they're presented.

 

[Dr. Evil]

If the strike begins on Monday, there will be no televised WWE or AEW shows.

Both companies will find a way to continue on due to contractual obligations.