He'd have to bring back the Iron Sheik boots for that.Xavier Woods would be a damn good heel champ if they'd let him.
I want to write a question in to Cornette's Drive-Thru now where I ask him about "Sable's Undertaker-like Wrestlemania win streak" to see if I can make him spontaneously combust with rage.
That is what I am thinking about. I don't think Sasha is a great worker. She's okay, rather good at times. And I think most of her feuds are just okay, with the exception of Bayley. Those have been rather good, but that is also Bayley. Who is also a lot better worker then Sasha.I know it was mentioned during the broadcast last night, but I think there is an argument that can be made for Sasha being amongst the absolute best ever. Think about some of the matches and feuds she's been a part of; now she just main evented Wrestlemania. The resume is sparkling...except for the losses, but there are clearly politics involved.
That is what I am thinking about. I don't think Sasha is a great worker. She's okay, rather good at times. And I think most of her feuds are just okay, with the exception of Bayley. Those have been rather good, but that is also Bayley. Who is also a lot better worker then Sasha.
If we are talking matches, feuds, and accomplishment the ranking in the WWE is basically:
1. Charlotte
2. Asuka
3. Becky
4. Bayley
5. Sasha
Asuka has literally done everything, while reigning mutiple times. She has good matches with everyone, and did it both in NXT and on the main roster. In singles competition and as a tag team. Her and Charlotte completely own Sasha in that regard. Becky spent 18 months the legit #1 draw and face of the company in the WWE. When she comes back, she be right back at the top. Bayley had last year to go along with her NXT run. But if I was just getting rid of kayfabe, Sasha probably doesn't make my top 10. I watch NXT. I see what those women are capable of. They smoke Sasha in terms of work rate and character. Io is the best women I have ever seen wrestle and she had made it work in the WWE ecosystem so far. Her transition between characters, and face/heel to Austin like "just Io" was fantastic, and her ring work is light years ahead of everyone else, including Asuka and Charlotte. That doesn't mean I don't like Sasha. I do. But Sasha is a botch machine, who tries things she's just not that physically capable of all the time. Her offense lacks impact, and is very convoluted at times. Her frog splash is painfully bad, as is her take on the crossface, which stretches all realms of reasoning, because for some reason she refuses the trap the arm in any meaningful way. She is much better as a heel, but she also spends a lot of time as a lame face and her acting isn't up for it. Sasha reminds me of Trish and Lita. Two women I definitely appreciate. But in terms of actually being the wrestling gods the WWE makes them out to be, nah.
So if we are doing this Kayfabe wise, sure. She is technically up there as the proper era of women's wrestling is rather new, but I also say she clearly has no place in the top 3 slots. But I have never judged it like that. Otherwise I'd have to have the likes of Hogan, HHH, Orton and Cena in my top 5-10. Which I definitely don't.
Charlotte is great in the ring imo. She has the things that make any worker imo. Impactful offense, psychology, speed, and general physicalness that sells a fight. When she brawled with Rousey, she didn't feel like she could be put in a grave if Rousey decided to. Sasha, not so much.So I disagree, of course.
I think Charlotte is massively overrated. She's a good worker, but it's her last name which carries her. Asuka's a great worker, but she's not a talker. Her whole deal is her "aura". Lynch is a great worker too, but she floundered around a bit until she hit her stride, but, even then, she was cooling down right before she left due to her pregnancy. Bayley's a great worker, too, who just recently hit a real stride, but she's no where near as comfortable in the heel role that Sasha is.
FWIW, I'm not saying Sasha's "better" than them all, but she's definitely not 5 of that list.
No offense to you or anyone else, but I think we think we know more about who's a great "worker" and the truth is Sasha's had great feuds with all these women that have helped define either of them. Name another good feud Bayley's done that didn't include Sasha that was memorable AND good. Same with Charlotte. At least Becky has had great feuds with Charlotte, Rousey and Nia Jax. Sasha has literally had iconic matches with all 4 women and now Belair and had matches that no other woman has done.
They should wrestle each other next year. Then they can have a 60 min draw.I'm really gonna need Sasha and Asuka to win at Mania at some point.
Charlotte is great in the ring imo. She has the things that make any worker imo. Impactful offense, psychology, speed, and general physicalness that sells a fight. When she brawled with Rousey, she didn't feel like she could be put in a grave if Rousey decided to. Sasha, not so much.
Asuka is fantastic talker and character person. Just because she doesn't speak English well, doesn't mean she can't talk. Her natural charisma comes through here in the US.
Becky's great accomplishment to me is how she forced herself into the main event through sheer force of personality. The WWE treated Becky way worse then say Sasha for years. She didn't leave. She stayed and was still somehow over enough to get the crowd to force her into the main event of Wrestlemania. They made them say no to over a year's worth of planning with Charlotte and Ronda. That's Austin level charisma. I have heard you argue Sasha is the most popular, but if that was the case, why did that never happen with her, especially with how bad you said they treated her? She never had that American Dragon movement, unlike Becky.
Bayley is a better face then Sasha, and a better heel then Sasha. Definitely a better worker as well.
With all do respect, you treat Sasha like Meltzer does Tokyo Dome matches. The big difference is, those are actually some of the greatest wrestling matches of all time that he adds too much emphasize on the Dome to. Sasha doesn't have those. At all.
When did Sasha define Becky, Asuka or Charlotte? You can argue Bayley, but even there Bayley defined herself with her heel run, that elevated her.
Charlotte's best feud and work came with Becky and Asuka. Arguably her best "wrestling match" came with Rhea.
Asuka has been defined by being Asuka from the very beginning.
Becky and Sasha didn't even feud until Becky was the Man.
You say Becky was losing steam, and yet somehow the crowd never turned on her.
It amazes me that you can complain about Sasha's booking all the time, and then come with, "but she had great feuds and matches". It's like, what grading curve are you judging these on?
I have a pretty decent track record with workers. I liked guys like Austin, Malenko, Eddie, Bryan, Joe, Jericho and others before it was cool. Not that it matters. It's still all opinion. But I can tell the difference in quality between an Io and Rhea who had proper matches with someone super green out of the performance center and talking about Sasha having great matches with better workers, who have had better matches with others, including each other. None of which I would call great for Sasha by the way, other then that first one with Bayley back in NXT.
Oh, and Sasha still can't do a frog splash. Very green Dominic Guerrero can though. I saw it Friday night.
I definitely had crushes on them, but in this era they feel like dinosaurs. Dinosaurs they just used to crap on Bayley.Never really cared for the Bellas. Either one.