A vision for how they should have adapted DC Comics heroes in the 2000

So how do you picture the wonder twins looking?
An updated and armored view of their costumes like this
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Or do you picture something more retro like this
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Cool :word:.
I'm getting more and more into Stargirl i.e. The Star Spangled Kid do to the tv show .
Kiernan Shipka and Nathan Fillion make a great Courtney and Pat combo.

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Frodo, next film will be up in in 30 minutes :)

Here's a teaser!

Wouldn’t it be fun to have the big three DC together?
Superman, Batman… and Wonder Woman.
A holy trinity in DC Comics.

Do you think it’s a lot of bombastic action when these characters meet?
That was not what was first planned. Once in a while, it can be a good thing to go against expectations and deliver something at another level.
Can “Trinity” put the story first? Is it better when character-driven?
It was decided to do something in the vein of Sydney Pollack and Milos Forman.

Lasse Hallström was the choice of director. He’s really good when it comes to films about people, their thoughts and personal lives. The story is as much about the characters’ family heritage as it’s about superheroes
The Swedish filmmaker couldn’t see himself handle the bigger scope that’s still present in the film. The choice fell on another director who has a little similar kind of drama films under his belt, but also more ability to handle a large story.

Bruce’s life is that of a very rich man. The Playboy persona is put to rest, however. He has kind of pulled away from social circles and events.
Board meetings and business matters/intrigues fill up much of his time.
Clark and Lois do their ordinary work as reporters. Superman rescues people, as always.
Soon, they lives will change!!!!!

Gotham’s usual film noir is really challenged when Wonder Woman steps in. She brings mythic fantasy with her.
Then Superman on top of that. With his art deco Metropolis, it’s like going back to the roaring 1920s and everything. Which is visually touched upon.
50s era McCarthyism plays in too, in a way. It wasn't a good time.

So, the film is trying to be serious? How?
Trinity is such an unrealistic union of characters to happen in the world.
How do this team work in a contemporary setting, in the 2010s?
It will be explored. That opens up for some menippean satire.
With such mighty superheroes, the threat is definitely global.
The Caped Crusader isn’t really in it, however. Bruce is brooding a lot. He’s not only a “Sam Spade esque” detective, he’s the tormented “Byronic hero” of the film. Like Heathcliff in Wuthering Heights. Scarecrow had brought him to the edge mentally, and Bane physically.
This leads to scenes where it’s The Boy Wonder who’s taking on the third role in Trinity.
It’s also Dick Grayson who comes up with the team’s name.

Trinity is the true event film among CBMs. Look at the sheer number of Hollywood giants, from now and then, behind the camera.
And the cast, what a cast!

Trinity tends, story-wise, to take stuff from Michael Caines stint as Harry Palmer, blended with:
The Andy Griffith Show (1960-68)
The Man Who Haunted Himself (1969)
Alias Smith and Jones (1971-73)
The Persuaders series (1971)
Godfather trilogy
The Great Gatsby (1974)
Foxy Brown (1974)
Derrick (1974-98)
Hart to Hart (1979-84)
Dynasty (1981-89)
Bergerac (1981-91)
Mistral's Daughter series (1984)
The Naked Face (1984)
Midnight Caller (1988-91)
L.A. Law (1986-94)
Goodfellas (1990)
A Few Good Men (1992)
This Boy’s Life (1993)
Ghost in the Shell (1995)
Dario Argento’s Phantom of the Opera (1998)
Speedway Junky (1999)
Wild Wild West (1999)
Lara Croft: Tomb Raider (2001)
Agent Cody Banks (2003)
Sky Captain and the World of Tomorrow (2004)
Gladiator (2000)
Seriousness, adventure and lighter stuff together

Also, the film is a mix of the Battle Angel Alita manga and works by Marcel Proust, Jane Austen, Jonathan Swift, Aristophanes, Strindberg and John Grisham,

The great Vangelis made a piece of music that’s called Trinity. It reflects on the superheroes’ different personalities.

Are you familiar with classical composers?
The film music honors Franz Schubert and Puccini.
 
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So how do you picture the wonder twins looking?
An updated and armored view of their costumes like this
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Or do you picture something more retro like this
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I hadn't thought about that. Thanks for opening my eyes :)
I think maybe the retro look is their circus costumes.
Should the outfits be upgraded when facing the threat? It would be the first time, if so :)
As loong as thy're mobile and agile. Any armour will prevent that. The neck and shoulder piece appears to be limiting their movement.
But so does the awful original collar. Why not use tights only?
What do you prefer? :)

The monkey is thrown out, however. No reason to have him as a part of the action.
He can stay at Exxor, with their family. :)
 
(Cont. from first Trinity post)

All actors return from the heroes’ respective films, except for the Greek gods. It’s still charismatic people who know the art of acting. Especially the veterans.
They will have fun playing the mythological characters, to put on a performance and shine.

Hades enters the scene. That’s really cool. He wasn’t seen before. But now he appears with a bunch of the other gods. It’s fantastic to have such powerful beings in their glory.
It’s not anything like cosplay. These are truly supernatural entities. Mark my words!
Unfortunately, they all have very small parts.

Did I say that all actors return? It’s not true. Liam Aiken has left.
It’s hard to play Robin every single year with all the intense physical training. The age factor also plays in. Robin is a kid and will always be.
Warner tried to get the actor to stay by promising him the character’s journey to Nightwing.
Sure, that would make sense. Either with the Aiken or a possible return of the first actor Rollo Weeks (it was discussed among both parties, because he had an even more suitable age for Nightwing).
But the thing is, Robin’s role in the films isn’t over yet. The studio can’t ditch what they’ve mapped out for the character.
Nightwing is something different. It’s more than just switching the name in the script. A bigger re-write will be required.
So they have to find a new Robin actor.
Josh Hutcherson? He’s already Garth in Aquaman.
Logan Lerman? Can’t happen! He’s “young Bruce” in two of the previous films. There has to be a limit for how confusing things can be, lol
There was an idea to bring in a whole different kind of actor than the typical Robin one, to visually change the character. Like how Daniel Craig did with 007.
I’m not talking about characteristics here. Only the outer appearance.
The Phantom film was a Warner Bros production. How about asking the Rex King actor?
Can you imagine how happy he was when a couple of the producers for Trinity came to the Phantom set during the filming, and offered him the role along with a three-film contract?

This is sort of how Dick Grayson will look from now on:
(something I decided before Tim Drake's outing)
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Supergirl appears briefly during the first scenes. She is only there for fun, not a part of the main plot.
Let’s have her show her powers in some way.
The actress is just the right one next to Hugh Jackman.
Kara talks about having received a faint signal from Dallas. But there isn’t anything at the location where seems to be coming from. This is strange! She will look further into it.

Dick Grayson is shown practicing martial arts AND gymnastics. He’s amazing.
Is the actor doing all that, or a stunt double?
Robin will no longer be a sidekick at the end. He becomes a hero on his own during the film.
His time in Amsterdam changed him.

Bizarro arrives in Metropolis and makes chaos. He’s mistaken for Superman at first.
There’s a bit destruction in his wake.
Lex Luthor and his Luthor Corp make a power suit to take down the kryptonian.
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Gotham has other problems.
The two rivalling crime bosses Penguin and Sal Maroni try to get dominion over the city.
Catwoman makes the honorable Harvey Dent become Two-Face. She’s doing it to put Batman & Robin in bad light. Another “maniac” raises.
She finds it very funny.
Not seen in the film, but mentioned, is that Catwoman also caused an accident for the respected doctor Victor Fries while he was doing research. Perhaps the outcome of that can be saved for a later film?

When will Metropolis and Gotham have had enough of these freaks running around?
Are superheroes causing more problems than the solve?
It's briefly mentioned about something similar going on in Europe.
Maroni and Penguin bury the hatchet, temporarily, and work together. They play the victim role when reaching out to politicians about the “hero problem”. Lex will be in this too.

The villains get their ways. Citizens start protesting against the heroes. Lex & Co knows very well that the masses can be manipulated to follow the stream, and do it in an intense way.
It spreads beyond their cities. The government gets involved. The army too.
Not long ago, Batman & Robin did actually do crimes (because of Mad Hatter’s hypnosis). That plays in here
The heroes are now deemed public enemies.

Superman must face what he’s done. The Dynamic duo too.
The heroes are brought before the law. It doesn’t help that Bruce uses his status to get help from people who know the law book inside and out.
There will be moments of courtroom drama.
It could perhaps lead to a revealing of their secret identities???

What role does Wonder Woman play in this? She’s currently living in California.

Who brought Bizarro to Earth? He can’t be capable of doing that himself, dumb as he is.

Ares will strike when there’s not much resistance left to oppose him.
Has he planned everything, using his magical influence to make America stop supporting their beloved heroes?
Didn’t he only care about war?
Diana must rise again!

Neither Supes or Bats approve of WW at first. There’s a tiny grain of sexism in their behavior, before they see what she’s capable of.

Steve Trevor is brave, resourceful and heroic. He doesn’t have to be saved by Diana anymore. That’s the least we could expect. He’s a soldier, for heavens sake!!! lol

The Olympian gods don’t do much to help out, except coming down to give speak some weird phrases.
They behave like they’re an audience in a cinema, watching an action film.

There’s a scene with Robin and Aphrodite, set in some dreamy Greek landscape. She’s coming to him for a purpose
Life and love will be touched upon.
Dick Grayson is likely bisexual which has been hinted before. He says something along the lines of “him swinging both ways”.

Superman, Robin and Wonder Woman have to unite to take down the god of war.
He’s very powerful. A couple of cyclops are helping him out.
A giant metallic spider-robot also shows up. Where did that come from?
Why isn't Batman helping out???
He’ll come soon!!!
Even Lex joins the heroes in the fight, using his power suit.

Something happens in Hades’ realm that takes the god by surprise.

Towards the end, Brainiac will be revealed as one who pulls the strings. The A.I. creature has gone into an uneasy alliance with Ares.
Lex will continue to oppose Brainiac after the big fight.

The film ends with Hades and Zeus meeting. The god of the underworld tells his brother that he’s heard his father’s voice.
Zeus looks worried but remains calm. “That’s impossible!”

Easter eggs
John Henry Irons/Steel
The Endless character Despair (second version)

Trinity (Warner, 2013)
filming locations
New York
Chicago
San Francisco
Santorini, Greece
Crete, Greece
Mexico City


Directed by Peter Weir

Produced by Francis Ford Coppola, Walter Salles, Mimi Leder, David Winning, David Twohy, Jon Turteltaub
Co-produced by Oliver Stone, Adrian Lyne, George Miller, John Badham, Tom Cruise, William Friedkin, Peter Bogdanovich, Gabor Csupo

Written by Peter Weir, David Franzoni, Robert Mark Kamen, Dean Devlin, Joshua Michael Stern, Kurt Wimmer, James Robinson
Additional writing: Francis Ford Coppola

Music by Elliot Goldenthal
incl. re-arr. of Elmer Bernstein’s Superman theme
Thomas Newman’s Robin theme
Wonder Woman theme by Joseph Conlan & Philiph Glass
and Jerry Goldsmith’s Batman theme


Costume design: Judianna Makovsky, Phoebe Wong, Laura Jean Shannon, Louis Joon, Shawna Trpcic

Set design: Emilio Ardura, James Edward Ferrell, Alex McDowell, Patrick Tatopoulos, Allan Cameron

CAST
Clark Kent/Superman Hugh Jackman
Dick Grayson/Robin: Devon Gearhart
Diana Prince/Wonder Woman: Lynn Collins
Bruce Wayne/Batman: Ben Chaplin
Lex Luthor: Billy Zane
Penguin: Timothy Spall
Lois Lane: Kate Beckinsale
Alfred Pennyworth: Robert Duvall
Sal Maroni: Andy Garcia
James Gordon: Viggo Mortensen
Chief O’Hara: Bill Pullman
Steve Trevor: David Wenham
Perry White: Sam Neill
Jimmy Olsen: James Franco
Bizarro: Hugh Jackman
Catwoman: Eva Green
Harvey Dent/Two-Face: Guy Pearce
Mayor of Gotham: Beau Bridges
Mayor of Metropolis: Jeff Daniels
Ares: Jean-Claude Van Damme
Hippolyta: Sigourney Weaver
Antiope: Brooke Shields

Cameos and minor roles
President of United States: Robert Redford
Kara Zor-El/Supergirl: Amanda Seyfried
Hades: John Hurt
Aphrodite: Kristanna Lokken
Zeus: Charles Dance
Hermes: Eric Idle
Poseidon: James Caan
Ganymede, the cup-bearer: Elijah Wood
Voice of Kronos: Christopher Lee

Wayne Enterprises board members: David Warner, Maud Adams, George Lazenby
Metropolis businessman: Terence Hill
Amazon warrior: Neve Campbell
U.S. senators: Jane Fonda, Brad Dourif
Army general: Tom Wilkinson
Retired law expert: Eileen Atkins

Judges: Jerry Lewis, Kathy Bates, Danny Glover
Defense attorneys: John C Reilly, Sandra Bullock
Prosecutors: Sean Young, Danny Huston
Court witnesses: Chiwetel Ejiofor, Jennifer Aniston, Brady Corbet

Cyclopes: Joe Bugner, Tyler Mane
Brianiac: Ralph Fiennes
 
(Cont. from first Trinity post)

All actors return from the heroes’ respective films, except for the Greek gods. It’s still charismatic people who know the art of acting. Especially the veterans.
They will have fun playing the mythological characters, to put on a performance and shine.

Hades enters the scene. That’s really cool. He wasn’t seen before. But now he appears with a bunch of the other gods. It’s fantastic to have such powerful beings in their glory.
It’s not anything like cosplay. These are truly supernatural entities. Mark my words!
Unfortunately, they all have very small parts.

Did I say that all actors return? It’s not true. Liam Aiken has left.
It’s hard to play Robin every single year with all the intense physical training. The age factor also plays in. Robin is a kid and will always be.
Warner tried to get the actor to stay by promising him the character’s journey to Nightwing.
Sure, that would make sense. Either with the Aiken or a possible return of the first actor Rollo Weeks (it was discussed among both parties, because he had an even more suitable age for Nightwing).
But the thing is, Robin’s role in the films isn’t over yet. The studio can’t ditch what they’ve mapped out for the character.
Nightwing is something different. It’s more than just switching the name in the script. A bigger re-write will be required.
So they have to find a new Robin actor.
Josh Hutcherson? He’s already Garth in Aquaman.
Logan Lerman? Can’t happen! He’s “young Bruce” in two of the previous films. There has to be a limit for how confusing things can be, lol
There was an idea to bring in a whole different kind of actor than the typical Robin one, to visually change the character. Like how Daniel Craig did with 007.
I’m not talking about characteristics here. Only the outer appearance.
The Phantom film was a Warner Bros production. How about asking the Rex King actor?
Can you imagine how happy he was when a couple of the producers for Trinity came to the Phantom set during the filming, and offered him the role along with a three-film contract?

This is sort of how Dick Grayson will look from now on:
(something I decided before Tim Drake's outing)
images

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Supergirl appears briefly during the first scenes. She is only there for fun, not a part of the main plot.
Let’s have her show her powers in some way.
The actress is just the right one next to Hugh Jackman.
Kara talks about having received a faint signal from Dallas. But there isn’t anything at the location where seems to be coming from. This is strange! She will look further into it.

Dick Grayson is shown practicing martial arts AND gymnastics. He’s amazing.
Is the actor doing all that, or a stunt double?
Robin will no longer be a sidekick at the end. He becomes a hero on his own during the film.
His time in Amsterdam changed him.

Bizarro arrives in Metropolis and makes chaos. He’s mistaken for Superman at first.
There’s a bit destruction in his wake.
Lex Luthor and his Luthor Corp make a power suit to take down the kryptonian.
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Gotham has other problems.
The two rivalling crime bosses Penguin and Sal Maroni try to get dominion over the city.
Catwoman makes the honorable Harvey Dent become Two-Face. She’s doing it to put Batman & Robin in bad light. Another “maniac” raises.
She finds it very funny.
Not seen in the film, but mentioned, is that Catwoman also caused an accident for the respected doctor Victor Fries while he was doing research. Perhaps the outcome of that can be saved for a later film?

When will Metropolis and Gotham have had enough of these freaks running around?
Are superheroes causing more problems than the solve?
It's briefly mentioned about something similar going on in Europe.
Maroni and Penguin bury the hatchet, temporarily, and work together. They play the victim role when reaching out to politicians about the “hero problem”. Lex will be in this too.

The villains get their ways. Citizens start protesting against the heroes. Lex & Co knows very well that the masses can be manipulated to follow the stream, and do it in an intense way.
It spreads beyond their cities. The government gets involved. The army too.
Not long ago, Batman & Robin did actually do crimes (because of Mad Hatter’s hypnosis). That plays in here
The heroes are now deemed public enemies.

Superman must face what he’s done. The Dynamic duo too.
The heroes are brought before the law. It doesn’t help that Bruce uses his status to get help from people who know the law book inside and out.
There will be moments of courtroom drama.
It could perhaps lead to a revealing of their secret identities???

What role does Wonder Woman play in this? She’s currently living in California.

Who brought Bizarro to Earth? He can’t be capable of doing that himself, dumb as he is.

Ares will strike when there’s not much resistance left to oppose him.
Has he planned everything, using his magical influence to make America stop supporting their beloved heroes?
Didn’t he only care about war?
Diana must rise again!

Neither Supes or Bats approve of WW at first. There’s a tiny grain of sexism in their behavior, before they see what she’s capable of.

Steve Trevor is brave, resourceful and heroic. He doesn’t have to be saved by Diana anymore. That’s the least we could expect. He’s a soldier, for heavens sake!!! lol

The Olympian gods don’t do much to help out, except coming down to give speak some weird phrases.
They behave like they’re an audience in a cinema, watching an action film.

There’s a scene with Robin and Aphrodite, set in some dreamy Greek landscape. She’s coming to him for a purpose
Life and love will be touched upon.
Dick Grayson is likely bisexual which has been hinted before. He says something along the lines of “him swinging both ways”.

Superman, Robin and Wonder Woman have to unite to take down the god of war.
He’s very powerful. A couple of cyclops are helping him out.
A giant metallic spider-robot also shows up. Where did that come from?
Why isn't Batman helping out???
He’ll come soon!!!
Even Lex joins the heroes in the fight, using his power suit.

Something happens in Hades’ realm that takes the god by surprise.

Towards the end, Brainiac will be revealed as one who pulls the strings. The A.I. creature has gone into an uneasy alliance with Ares.
Lex will continue to oppose Brainiac after the big fight.

The film ends with Hades and Zeus meeting. The god of the underworld tells his brother that he’s heard his father’s voice.
Zeus looks worried but remains calm. “That’s impossible!”

Easter eggs
John Henry Irons/Steel
The Endless character Despair (second version)

Trinity (Warner, 2013)
filming locations
New York
Chicago
San Francisco
Santorini, Greece
Crete, Greece
Mexico City

Directed by Peter Weir

Produced by Francis Ford Coppola, Walter Salles, Mimi Leder, David Winning, David Twohy, Jon Turteltaub
Co-produced by Oliver Stone, Adrian Lyne, George Miller, John Badham, Tom Cruise, William Friedkin, Peter Bogdanovich, Gabor Csupo

Written by Peter Weir, David Franzoni, Robert Mark Kamen, Dean Devlin, Joshua Michael Stern, Kurt Wimmer, James Robinson
Additional writing: Francis Ford Coppola

Music by Elliot Goldenthal
incl. re-arr. of Elmer Bernstein’s Superman theme
Thomas Newman’s Robin theme
Wonder Woman theme by Joseph Conlan & Philiph Glass
and Jerry Goldsmith’s Batman theme

Costume design: Judianna Makovsky, Phoebe Wong, Laura Jean Shannon, Louis Joon, Shawna Trpcic

Set design: Emilio Ardura, James Edward Ferrell, Alex McDowell, Patrick Tatopoulos, Allan Cameron

CAST
Clark Kent/Superman Hugh Jackman
Dick Grayson/Robin: Devon Gearhart
Diana Prince/Wonder Woman: Lynn Collins
Bruce Wayne/Batman: Ben Chaplin
Lex Luthor: Billy Zane
Penguin: Timothy Spall
Lois Lane: Kate Beckinsale
Alfred Pennyworth: Robert Duvall
Sal Maroni: Andy Garcia
James Gordon: Viggo Mortensen
Chief O’Hara: Bill Pullman
Steve Trevor: David Wenham
Perry White: Sam Neill
Jimmy Olsen: James Franco
Bizarro: Hugh Jackman
Catwoman: Eva Green
Harvey Dent/Two-Face: Guy Pearce
Mayor of Gotham: Beau Bridges
Mayor of Metropolis: Jeff Daniels
Ares: Jean-Claude Van Damme
Hippolyta: Sigourney Weaver
Antiope: Brooke Shields

Cameos and minor roles
President of United States: Robert Redford
Kara Zor-El/Supergirl: Amanda Seyfried
Hades: John Hurt
Aphrodite: Kristanna Lokken
Zeus: Charles Dance
Hermes: Eric Idle
Poseidon: James Caan
Ganymede, the cup-bearer: Elijah Wood
Voice of Kronos: Christopher Lee

Wayne Enterprises board members: David Warner, Maud Adams, George Lazenby
Metropolis businessman: Terence Hill
Amazon warrior: Neve Campbell
U.S. senators: Jane Fonda, Brad Dourif
Army general: Tom Wilkinson
Retired law expert: Eileen Atkins

Judges: Jerry Lewis, Kathy Bates, Danny Glover
Defense attorneys: John C Reilly, Sandra Bullock
Prosecutors: Sean Young, Danny Huston
Court witnesses: Chiwetel Ejiofor, Jennifer Aniston, Brady Corbet

Cyclopes: Joe Bugner, Tyler Mane
Brianiac: Ralph Fiennes

Very cool cast for a good story. :yay:
It's also good to start out with a Trinity Film first which could later build up to a JLA film.

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Very cool cast for a good story. :yay:
It's also good to start out with a Trinity Film first which could later build up to a JLA film.

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Thank you!! :)
Hope you didn't miss post 1/2

It's the best cast ever (well, almost).
Gordon, Alfred and Perry White has been played by the same (charismatic) ones for a while now.
Nobody can be Supergirl to Jackman's Supes like Seyfried can!!!!!!!!!!!!! The actress is a clone, made for this purpose only lol lol
Eva Green will have so much fun playing Catwoman.
Van Damme as Ares makes sense in some way. Maybe not a master actor. But the war god doesn't have to be played by a young model-like guy. Wrath of Titans did that totally wrong. He was a spoiled brat with good looks that happened to have godly powers.

Ah, Timothy Spall. He would be amazing beyond reason as Penguin.
Even I have a hard time understanding how GREAT that casting is.

Of course getting all these people will be expensive. It's not just the ordinary cast. I don't think there has ever been that many star cameos before. Everyone wants to be in Trinity, lol
The money issue was solved by having all of them to be on set for 1-2 days, depending on what they do in the film.
Their salaries won't rocket to the sky then.
The actual actors have more scenes, though.

Will it destroy the cinematic experience seeing all the known faces everywhere?
The courtroom has too many stars to handle, lol.
I'm curious if you think the trial was a good thing to be included in the plot. Is it going to slow the pace too much?

Peter Weir doing Trinity really raises the bar.
He's not the typical action director. His strenghts lay elsewhere. The only bombastic project he ever did must be Master & Commander, I think.
But wooohooo, can you imagine what he will do with the character-driven story and how the film will turn out in his hands?
There are supernatural elements in the film. In what ways do you think the greek gods will be handled by Weir?
The Coppola man himself being involved, makes it an even more interesting event film.
I wonder what Scorsese will think about his "cinematic brother" of the 70s/80s doing a CBM :p

Don't look to much ahead, Frodo. Why do you think there will ever be a Justice League? :halo: :D:
You'll see ;) ;)

What's your opinion about going from the usual Robin looks to a (sort of) blond/sandy-haired actor?
As I said a while ago, it was something I decided months ago. I looked a long time to find someone with a difference hair color who still has the right age. These candidates almost didn't seem to exist
It was hillarous to later see that Tim Drake's boyfriend Bernard looks exactly like the actor I planned to have as Grayson. It's was a really really weird coincidence. :confused:
On the other hand, the new canon with "third Robin is bisexual" was what made me finally altering Grayson the same way in my DC vision. I had wanted to shake things up a bit and modernize before too, but I thought of it as a too bold way to go.
Also leaning too much into fan theories, and fan-made online pics/jokes (some of them are cheap and just bad taste).
Would it have been a disgrace to the character before DC decided to change Tim?
I have to add that it's no reboot of the character. That kind of thing never happen in my films despite all the actor changes. :) :)
 
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What's your opinion about going from the usual Robin looks to a (sort of) blond/sandy-haired actor?

I'm totally down for a Blonde haired Grayson .:D
I actually don't mind aesthetic changes to characters looks , costumes, etc from prior versions.
There's actually some precendence for it , albeit the Jason Todd version who was briefly blonde
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I also agree Spall would be great as Penguin. I had to look him up at first and I remembered him from Harry Potter and Enchanted. He's a great actor and there have been several manips of him as Oswald, and he just fits it to a T.
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Eva Green also has the wisdom, intellegence, slyness, and acting talents to pull off an amazing Selina Kyle.
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Your cast is very good, and you can count me in for an expensive star studded Trinity Film:applaud.

Weir is also a good choice as a director . I haven't seen Australia before, but I've seen Dead Poets Society, Truman Show, Master and Commander, Green Card, and Gallipoli.
It would be very interesting to see a director of his caliber tackle these modern mythological characters. :word:
 
I'm totally down for a Blonde haired Grayson .:D
I actually don't mind aesthetic changes to characters looks , costumes, etc from prior versions.
There's actually some precendence for it , albeit the Jason Todd version who was briefly blonde
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I also agree Spall would be great as Penguin. I had to look him up at first and I remembered him from Harry Potter and Enchanted. He's a great actor and there have been several manips of him as Oswald, and he just fits it to a T.
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Eva Green also has the wisdom, intellegence, slyness, and acting talents to pull off an amazing Selina Kyle.
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Your cast is very good, and you can count me in for an expensive star studded Trinity Film:applaud.

Weir is also a good choice as a director . I haven't seen Australia before, but I've seen Dead Poets Society, Truman Show, Master and Commander, Green Card, and Gallipoli.
It would be very interesting to see a director of his caliber tackle these modern mythological characters. :word:

Thanks :)

The Jason Todd suit has a remarkable look. It's interesting that the boots are red, not green.
Personally, I would remove the collar part that looks like a star, and make the costume a tad closer to the classic Robin by having the
R-logo on the left side of the chest.
A blond actor in the more classic Robin suit would be a challenge to our eyes. Something about it would feel very off. Atleast before we get used to it.
His lighter hair can match the dark that Supes and WW have. It could be done for an aestethic purpose.

You found a very savage pic of Spall as Penguin. Maybe he will be more cleaned up and snobbish in Trinity?

Green is one of the actresses that need to play Catwoman. She has the character in her, on several levels.
This very reason is why WB/Nolan DIDN'T go with her, but Hathaway.
You know, always cast against character :p
What would the differences be between Green's and Asia Argento's take on the cat villain?

With an expensive film, it will be more difficult to earn money from it.
However, the more stars the better. I'm with you there :)

It's interesting with these big filmmakers doing DC adaptions.
Oliver Stone gave us World's Finest!!
The story in that one opened up for Trinity. Weir took care of the "sequel" (with some help from Coppola).
A serious director like him would perhaps use the greek gods as something that represent different aspects of the whole of creation, both for the wildlife on our planet, and on the wider cosmic scale (this is the bigger angle)....
...as well as representives of the human mind/soul/psyche, including what's hidden (this is the smaller scale).
A combination of symbolic beings and actual natural forces. As they are aware of their own existence, they can show themselves to us with a humanoid body instead of the pure energy they're made of.
Maybe it's us humans that project our own different personalities on them, while in reality the gods themselves don't have any distinct personality (as they have in the mythology)?

DC Comics heroes are said to be modelled after the greek mythology (gods/demigods/heroic warriors). I think Weir would focus on that too, in one way or another.
We've heard before that Supes = Zeus and WW = Athena
Batman could be the son of Hades. Not in biological terms though. Rather that the energy inside the god of the underwold is the "father" to Bruce's soul. It's something that could have affected all his physical life. Including his material wealth, the loss of his parents, his crusade against the dark side of the human society, him having death around him etc. He's fighting against his destiny like Hades also does. Neither of them can escape their fate.
Now I went really deep. I have to dig myself out, lol

You like the film Australia? It wasn't made by Weir, but Baz Lurhmann. Another great director :)
 
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