Fan4stic vs Ultimate Fantastic Four - Source Material Comparison

[CyclopsWasRight]

This is the plot of the Ultimate Fantastic Four, the version of the characters this movie is primarily influenced by...

Reed Richards is a child prodigy, protected by his burly friend Ben Grimm from bullies, and a genius who had invented a method of teleportation in his youth. He is discovered by government official Willie Lumpkin, and subsequently recruited into a child prodigy think tank/school located in the upper floors of the Baxter building. There he meets Professor Storm, who leads the project, and his children, bioengineer Susan Storm and her younger brother Johnny. Reed also becomes the rival of Victor Van Damme, a fellow student. When Reed becomes 21, he plans to teleport an apple into a parallel universe (the "N-Zone"), but Van Damme claims Reed's calculations are wrong and changes the setup at the last minute. The five students get teleported through the N-Zone, and when they rematerialize, they return heavily mutated.

Here is the approximate plot of the movie as indicated by footage and news...

Reed Richards is a child prodigy, befriended by young Benjamin Grimm, and a genius who had invented a method of teleportation in his youth. He is discovered by government liaison scientist Franklin Storm, and subsequently recruited into a government think tank located in the Baxter Institute. There he meets Franklins Storms children, Susan Storm and her younger brother Johnny as well as fellow scientist Victor Domaschev. The five work to develop a teleportation transport device coined the quantum gate and explore this alternate dimension, however an accident occurs which mutates them all giving them powerful but unstable abilities.

- COMPARISON -​

Here's what this movie has in common with the source material:

- The main characters share similiar Young Adult ages. In the movie they're in their early twenties in the comic they were in their late teens.

- The movie features child prodigy Reed Richards inventing his Teleportation prototype.

- Reed is a timid young boy who forms a friendship with tough kid Ben Grimm

- The Baxter Institute Think-Tank

- Reed is recruited into the Baxter Institute.

- "Moleman" works at the Baxter Institute

- Victor is a programmer at the Baxter institute

- Reed Richards Meets Sue Storm, Johnny Storm & Victor for the first time at the Baxter Institute

- Sue Storm is a Scientist and Johnny a cocky character

- Reed develops the first successful inter-dimensional transportation device

- The Four and Victor travel to The Negative-Zone and gain superhuman abilities via an accident

- Victor has his skin turned to a metallic substance and he gains enhanced strength and durability powers.

- Victor becomes an enemy of the four who become a team.

- The Military have a presence at the Baxter Institute and around the Four.


Here's the differences the movie has from the source material:

- The Four wear black containments suits instead of blue costumes.

- Victor doesn't mutate to have Goat legs after the accident. In the movie he has some form or energy-based powers which his comic counterpart doesn't.

- Name differences: Victor is named Victor Domaschev instead of Victor Van Damme, "MoleMan" is named Harvey Elder instead of Dr Arthur Molekevic

- Sue Storm is Adopted instead of being the biological daughter of Franklin Storm

- Franklin Storm and Johnny Storm are not Caucasian

- Reed is recruited by Franklin Storm and not Willie Lumpkin

- Reed Richards doesnt look to be recruited into the Baxter Institute as a Child but as a young Adult.

- Victor may not be responsible for the accident by changing co-ordinates (unknown at present)

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*Comparison of The Main Characters:

Reeds appearance, powers, intellect and origin matches, except for his age when recruited into the Baxter Institute.

Sue Storms field of vocation, sibling relationship, appearance and powers match, her origin is altered in that she is adopted.

Johnny Storms cocky characterisation, sibling relationship, powers and origin matches, his race is African-American instead of Caucasian

Ben Grimms friendship with Reed, origin and powers match, his appearance is slightly smaller in stature than his comic counterpart, as The Thing he doesn't use clothing unlike the comic counterpart

Victor Van Dammes appearance & origin match, As Dr Doom his appearance matches except for the goat legs, he also has a different surname & additional powers.

Summary - Dr Doom is the most different from his comic counterpart. Reed & Johnny match their comic counterparts the most of the four.

*Appearance refers to their look, age-range, race and build, not costuming​

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- CONCLUSION -​

Plenty of comic accurate elements and a number of in-accurate elements.

The level of importance these elements hold for some are of course up to individual opinion, for instance some may be glad that something is in-accurate like Dooms legs and others may be disappointed that something is in-accurate such as Reeds age when recruited into the Baxter institute.

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Note: I entered everything I could think of, I may have missed some and if so I apologise.


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[GR8GODZILLAGOD]

Oh boy...

 

[Quasar]

I was looking forward to a UFF adaptation like I was hoping they would adapt the Adam West Batman for BvS.

 

[Eddie]

Super Mario Bros. The Movie has dozens of things you can say are drawn directly from the game. Mario's a plumber, there's a bob-omb, there's a character named after the enemy Big Bertha, Yoshi's a dinosaur, TONS of subtle stuff that can only be noticed if you pause in certain scenes...

Boy, that Super Mario Bros. movie sure was loyal to the source material!

 

[Flint Marko]

So for everyone keeping score at home, FFINO is an extremely loose adaption of one of the least beloved versions of the FF.

 

[VictorDomashev]

 

[Drz]

You can add these to the list:
- Johnny Storm is a sports guy, in UFF he was into football, here he's into race driving in the streets fast and furious style.
- the machine they use to enter N-Zone is very similiar to the comic one.
- Kid Reed in both adaptations created machines that caught the Government's attention.
- This scene:

I was looking forward to a UFF adaptation like I was hoping they would adapt the Adam West Batman for BvS.

If you don't have anything positive to comment consistently, there's the FFINO thread for you. :b

 

[marvelmadness13]

In UFF, Ben and Reed grew up in NYC - in this film they appear to be in some sort of rural town.

In UFF, Reed was sent to the Baxter building at a young age - in this film he appears to go there when he is a young adult.

In Uff, Ben was a tall, muscular football player - in this film he is a skinny, short baseball player.

In Uff, Victor Van Damme was a wealthy descendant of Dracula - in this film he's Victor Domashev and he is poor and adopted by Franklin Storm.

In Uff, Johnny and Sue were brother and sister - in this film, Sue is adopted from Kosovo.

In Uff, Arthur Molekevic was a major character who became Moleman - in this film there is no Arthur Molevic and instead we get Harvey elder which was the name of a completely different 616 character who became Moleman.

In the UFF, they didn't travel to and explore the N-Zone. The device blew up when it was turned on - In this film, a primary plot point seems to be the travel to and exploration of the N-Zone

In UFF, they weren't held captive by the government and they weren't used as weapons by the government - That seems to be a major plot point of the film.

In UFF, they didn't struggle to deal with their powers and they didn't need "containment suits" - That seems to be a major element of the film.

In UFF, Van Damme grew organic armor with goat legs and breathed some sort of poison gas and other silly crap - In this film, he doesn't look even vaguely like the UFF version and his powers seem very different.

In UFF, Van Damme went to Denmark and became leader of some group of homeless people - In this film he seems to travel to (and possibly get trapped in) the N-Zone where he poses some non-specific threat the FF must fight.

In UFF, Ben looked like the Thing, with smooth, regular plates, 3 fingers and a thumb, etc. - In this film, he's a rough, lumpy rock creature that only looks superficially like the Thing.

In UFF, BEN wore PANTS - Nuff said

In UFF, The FF wore blue uniforms






. . . to name a few quick things off the top of my head that are clearly different from UFF from the little bit we've seen and heard so far. I'm sure there's much more drastic departures in the actual film that we just don't know much about yet.

Nothing in this film is from Ultimate F4.

In Ultimate F4:

Ben is a big buff guy not tiny Billy Elliott.

Johnny is Caucasian.

Sue is not adopted.

Reed is younger than Miles Teller.

They don't wear absurdly stupid generic black outfits with slinkies and bungee cords as accessories.

The device to go to the N Zone looks complete different.

They don't actually go explore the N Zone, the machine blows up and when they come to they have powers.

The N Zone is never called Planet Zero.

Doom is not a blogger named Domashev.

Doom is not covered in trash bags.

Doom doesn't look like Freddy Krueger.

Harvey Elder is not in it.

Ultimate Mole Man(and 616 Mole Man for that matter) was never a normal guy who wore a suit.

Ben wore pants.

Ben wasn't a generic rock monster.

Repeating a lie doe not make it truth. The fact is this film is as far from UF4 as it is from 616, they're only trying to claim it's based on UF4 because of the tremendous backlash being unfaithful to any of the source material has caused.

Trank himself straight up told Mara during filming this wouldn't be based anything that has been published.

I'm sure it will be ignored but here are the facts.

 

[CyclopsWasRight]

. Same angle too.

 

[Drz]

In UFF, Ben and Reed grew up in NYC - in this film they appear to be in some sort of rural town.

Here's a shot of their house and could you really tell from here its NYC? We'll have to wait and see what this "rural town" is.

In the UFF, they didn't travel to and explore the N-Zone. The device blew up when it was turned on - In this film, a primary plot point seems to be the travel to and exploration of the N-Zone

The 3rd arc of Ultimate Fantastic Four is literally titled "N-Zone"..........

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In UFF, they weren't held captive by the government and they weren't used as weapons by the government - That seems to be a major plot point of the film.

The military influence comes from Ultimates, Ultimate Fantastic Four started first but the Ultimate influence was explored, for example Spider-Man couldn't join the Ultimates until he was 18 and the Fantastic Four we're seen in the Baxter Building and while not members of the Ultimates, they did assist them. (Remember, the Fantastic Four we're also too young to join Ultimates and not criminals to be put on the Avengers)

In UFF, they didn't struggle to deal with their powers and they didn't need "containment suits" - That seems to be a major element of the film.

In UFF, Van Damme grew organic armor with goat legs and breathed some sort of poison gas

He has Organic armor here, the lack of goat legs was one of the biggest sins Trank committed, that much I agree!

Doom is not covered in trash bags.

 

[Sleiek]

Wow man. That's messed up. Looks like a horror story.

 

[Tacit Ronin]

I gotta say, the power displays in those scans display far more body horror than Trank's adaptation.

 

[Ragnaroknroll]

I don't think anyone will care about this argument anymore now that the movie is out. It was just something to argue to kill the time. Very few fans actually enjoyed Ultimate Fantastic Four and is widely considered the worst title of the Ultimate line. Whether this film was a faithful adaptation of UFF or not - doesn't matter - it was a bad idea.

 

[CyclopsWasRight]

I gotta say, the power displays in those scans display far more body horror than Trank's adaptation.

Which goes to show he wasn't intepreting them wrong since it's right there in... Colour.

 

[Drz]

http://www.bleedingcool.com/2015/08...ilers/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=facebook

 

[TheVileOne]

Actually in the movie they are not in their 20s, they are late teens here.

There is no mole man either.

 

[The Infernal]

No organic armour either. He's just a burns victim whose space suit melted into his flesh.