GI JOE: Renegades, new series set to premiere on The Hub on 10.10.10

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Great news, at this point I'm not that interested of GI Joe, but I'm all for the new series.
 
I like the look and design style for the show. I hope it's a bit more serious than Sigma 6. Hopefully it will have a better vocal cast behind it. They claim it will have a heavier tone but still appropriate for kids. We'll see.
 
Saw the teaser trailer just now. They ruined it for me. Manga'd the crap out of it and now I can't even bear to watch it, let alone enjoy it.
 
What teaser trailer? What they showed at SDCC or this?

http://hubworld.com/index.htm

Very short clip here. Style is a little different, but I'm fine with it really. I want to see more though. I like that Charlie Adler is playing Cobra Commander again.

I think Moore is being a hater because the designs for shows like Spectacular Spider-man looked very different and awkward at first.

Not like the 1990's original is all that great anymore or really holds up that well.
 
I was just more impressed when people looked like people back in the 80's cartoons. It was a much harder process making an animation, yet the artists there drew actual people, not spindly armed, giant eyed, over simplistic things.
You would think that nowadays with it being easier to digitally create or at least alter, that cartoons would have a slight realism to them (without that godawful CG style stuff like in Iron Man armoured adventures).
 
Man Chris Moore, you must really hate the Simpsons and Futurama is all I can think right now.
 
More that I hate that approach for action based cartoons, not comedy ones. Ren and Stimpy? Fine. He-Man or GIJOE? Not so much
 
I guess you hate Spectacular Spider-man, JLU, BTAS, STAS, and Batman Beyond as well.
 
I dunno what STAS is, but I did like JLU, BTAS, and Batman Beyond. They were stylized, but not over the top. JLU had ridiculously enormous shoulders, but it worked for the Kirby-esque style they were going for early on. Spectacular Spider-Man on the other hand - yeesh.
 
Spectacular Spider-man was a popular, beloved series amongst fans though. STAS is Superman series.

I don't see how those shows are any less stylized than Renegades. They didn't ever look like REAL PEOPLE either.
 
Its more than Mangaisation than anything else. I just can't stand manga cartoons, but think its fine as a cartoon type and they have their place. I just wish the style would stay in its own genre and not bleed over into american comicbook and action figure cartoons. I couldn't even get through half of Gotham Knight because of at least two parts.

It's like, Manga has its place, fine. Overly stylized (Spectacular Spider-Man) has its place and lets us know its definitely a version of the character more for kid kids rather than later kids and comic book fans. So if you're going to go for 'realistic', then actually go for realistic like the older GIJOE model bases. Don't try for realistic then give them fish lips, goldfish bowl eyes, insanely pointy chins, tiny noses, flapping sideburns, endless slow-mo firework action scenes. The Batman, X-Men Evolution, Wolverine and the X-Men, BTAS - all work well because their stories and art suggest they are for kids, but also appeal to older kids and comic book fans and aren't trying to insult you. Spec Spidey works because it fully aims at younger kids. Manga as a style doesn't work for me because everything about it suggests it aint for kids, but then it has the weird over exaggerated facial features that just don't match up to the bodies.
 
Like it or not, Japanese have been animating and producing our cartoons for years.

Transformers were created by the Japanese.

I think we also need to see more footage before you can so lamely call it manga-ization.
 
I dunno what STAS is, but I did like JLU, BTAS, and Batman Beyond. They were stylized, but not over the top. JLU had ridiculously enormous shoulders, but it worked for the Kirby-esque style they were going for early on. Spectacular Spider-Man on the other hand - yeesh.

STAS=superman the animated series
 
That actually looks goods. It's closer animation wise to Real American Hero than Sigma 6 was. Actually it's the same animation style as GI Joe Resolute (which was how GI Joe should have been made in the beginning)
 
If you are Chris Moore don't look at the new pictures in the link:

http://toynewsi.com/news.php?catid=9&itemid=16333

Also cast and character breakdown:

GI JOE Character Descriptions
DUKE (aka Sergeant Conrad Hauser)-
Squad leader
Weapon of choice: Plasma Pulse Pistol
A former Midwestern high-school farm boy/football hero, CONRAD “DUKE” HAUSER has stepped into the role of “squad leader” of the G.I. Joe team. He’s instinctive, but believes in contemplation before provocation, and is always driven to do the right thing, regardless of what others might think. CONRAD “DUKE” HAUSER is respected and liked by his teammates. He’s decisive and will bend the rules when necessary, but is wholly willing to take responsibility for his actions. His main concern is for the safety of his fellow G.I. Joe team, but he also believes he has a duty to assist those in need.

SCARLETT (aka Lieutenant Shana ‘Scarlett’ O’Hara)-
Intel specialist
Weapon of choice: High Tech Plasma Pulse Crossbow
A sophisticated, well-educated big city girl, SHANA “SCARLETT” O’HARA is a conspiracy theorist and truth seeker, especially when it comes to Cobra. She began her military career as a computer jockey, but wanted to get her hands dirty, so began training in Ninjitsu under SNAKE EYES. SHANA “SCARLETT” O’HARA is skilled at undercover work, and can maneuver her way around a boardroom or high-society reception. But, she has little actual combat experience. She can grow impatient and condescending with those she deems less intelligent than she (which is basically everyone on the team excepting SNAKE EYES), but she quickly comes to realize she can learn a lot from the “ordinary” G.I. Joe team.

SNAKE EYES-
Ninja/Commando
Weapon(s) of choice: Sword and Plasma Pulse Uzi
A mute, masked man-of-mystery -- not officially affiliated with the military – SNAKE EYES was a mercenary whom SHANA “SCARLETT” O’HARA occasionally utilized for special missions. He was well-trained by the secretive Arashikage clan in the ways of the Ninja. A loner who’s not used to working with others, even after SNAKE EYES “joins” the Joes on the road, he comes and goes as he pleases. SHANA “SCARLETT” O’HARA knows him well enough to “translate” what he’s thinking; rumors abound amongst the team that their relationship is more than just master and disciple. The G.I. Joe team depends upon the “shadow warrior” skills of SNAKE EYES to stay one step ahead of their pursuers, and his profound sense of honor keeps him “attached” to the G.I. Joe team and their cause.

TUNNEL RAT (aka Private First Class Nicky Lee)-
Medic and Infiltration Specialist
Weapon of choice: Plasma Pulse Sub-Machine Gun
Of Asian descent and hailing from Brooklyn, NICKY “TUNNEL RAT” LEE is an eccentric medic with a prickly high-strung personality and attitude. He spent a lot of his youth exploring subway and sewer tunnels. As a result, NICKY “TUNNEL RAT” LEE is most comfortable in dark, confined places and possesses an arcane knowledge of soil, worms, insects, fungus, and anything else that thrives under or in the ground. Known for his biting sense of humor, as well as his nostril-burning scent.

ROADBLOCK (aka Corporal Marvin Hinton)-
Heavy Ordinance Specialist; Mechanic \ Driver; Chef
Weapon of choice: Big Plasma Pulse Machine Gun
MARVIN “ROADBLOCK” HINTON is a brawny African-American country boy from Biloxi. He’s a guitar playing head banger who’s constantly blasting heavy metal though his headphones, and singing along. He’s cheerful… boisterous… a chatterbox. As the team’s de facto chef, his culinary specialties tend toward roadkill. MARVIN “ROADBLOCK” HINTON keeps his positive outlook intact even during the most dangerous of situations…which is pretty much every situation since the G.I. Joe team have been on the run, trying to clear their names and take down Cobra.

RIPCORD (aka Private Wallace Weems)-
HALO jumper/specialist
Weapon of choice: Plasma Pulse Sub-Machine Gun
A Fresh-faced African-American rookie who’s eager to prove himself, WALLACE “RIPCORD” WEEMS is an extreme-sport daredevil who is seemingly fearless in battle, and cracks wise every chance he gets. Arguably, his attempts at humor can get a little grating; just ask NICKY “TUNNEL RAT” LEE.

FLINT (aka Warrant Officer Dashiell Faireborn)-
Commands The Falcons; a military task force assigned to hunt down the Joes.
Now a highly-decorated military officer, DASHIELL “FLINT” FAIREBORN shares a rivalry with CONRAD “DUKE” HAUSER that goes back to their high school football days. And since DASHIELL “FLINT” FAIREBORN knows CONRAD “DUKE” HAUSER better than anyone, he’s put in charge of tracking CONRAD “DUKE” HAUSER down. Wearing his signature beret, DASHIELL “FLINT” FAIREBORN can seem cocky and egotistical upon first meeting, but – underneath -- he’s a very decent man who sees a very clear line between “right” and “wrong.” He has no patience for Cobra conspiracy tales, however, and is all about successfully completing his mission: the capture of the fugitive G.I. Joe team.

LADY JAYE (aka Sergeant Alison Hart- Burnett)-
A tough and scrappy, “one of the guys” Latina, the “Lady” in ALISON “LADY JAYE” HART- BURNETT is ironic. She and CONRAD “DUKE” HAUSER also have a history together (CONRAD “DUKE” HAUSER once saved her life), and she finds it much harder to believe the accusations brought against him and his team. Recruited by DASHIELL “FLINT” FAIREBORN to aid in his pursuit of the G.I. Joe team, she secretly feeds the G.I. Joe team Intel so they might avoid capture, and provides them with access and much-needed supplies in their battle against Cobra.

GENERAL CLAYTON ABERNATHY-
A commanding officer who walks with a cane due to a combat injury, but is still tough-as-nails. GENERAL CLAYTON ABERNATHY doesn’t trust the smiling face of Cobra, but knows they carry a tremendous amount of political influence. There’s some evidence that he may believe in the evidence of the G.I. Joe team. Regardless, GENERAL CLAYTON ABERNATHY still feels the G.I. Joe team should turn themselves in, and has no qualms about ordering DASHIELL “FLINT” FAIREBORN to capture the Fugitives.




COBRA COMMANDER (aka Adam DeCobray)-
The leader of Cobra who hides behind the very public persona of ADAM DECOBRAY, the benevolent, reclusive CEO of Cobra Industries -- a man who doesn’t actually exist (except as simulated video images). The real COBRA COMMANDER is a mysterious, masked megalomaniac who believes humanity is doomed, and must be destroyed and replaced with something better. While not physically intimidating, COBRA COMMANDER inspires tremendous fear and wields incredible power.

BARONESS (aka Anastasia Cisarovna)-
ANASTASIA “BARONESS” CISAROVNA, is Cobra Industries’ communications director and chief architect of their benevolent public face. She’s also a ruthless, femme fatale corporate saboteur, chiefly responsible for covering-up Cobra’s nefarious tracks by eliminating witnesses and tying-up loose ends. As such, she has made the hunt for the G.I. Joe team her top priority.

DESTRO (aka James McCullen)-
A Scottish weapons dealer/manufacturer descended from a long line of magnates, JAMES “DESTRO” MCCULLEN began M.A.R.S. Industries as a competitor to Cobra, until M.A.R.S. was acquired by COBRA COMMANDER in a VERY hostile takeover. As “punishment” for crimes against the “Snake”, JAMES “DESTRO” MCCULLEN is forced to wear an irremovable metal helmet. He now serves Cobra with his technologically-advanced designs and business acumen, all while biding his time until he can overthrow COBRA COMMANDER and regain control of his family business.

STORM SHADOW (aka Tomisaburo Arashikage)-
Driven by pride and jealousy, TOMISABURO “STORM SHADOW” ARASHIKAGE trained alongside SNAKE EYES, whom he blames for the murder of their Uncle – The Hard Master (one-time patriarch of the Arashikage clan). After catching a glimpse of SNAKE EYES on Cobra news footage, TOMISABURO “STORM SHADOW” ARASHIKAGE tracks his nemesis down, and resumes their blood feud. When ANASTASIA “BARONESS” CISAROVNA learns of same, she offers TOMISABURO “STORM SHADOW” ARASHIKAGE the resources to turn the Arashikage into the most powerful criminal force in the world, in exchange for his occasional freelance services as assassin… and bodyguard to Cobra Commander.

DR. MINDBENDER (Dr. Brian Bender)-
DR. BRIAN “MINDBENDER” BENDER is head of Cobra’s secretive bio-tech division. A gifted, brash genius in genetic engineering, cloning, mutation and cellular regeneration, DR. MINDBENDER is full of youthful enthusiasm for his work -- even though it typically involves the dangerous, the unethical, and the illegal. Cobra’s secret Bio Viper program provides the perfect playground for this deranged scientist; what DR. MINDBENDER lacks in conscience, he makes up for with attitude.

ZARTAN-
A ruthless biker gang-leading thug, ZARTAN becomes a valuable asset to Cobra (and an incredible threat to the G.I. Joe team) when he stumbles upon and becomes the only person who can wear an experimental Cobra “chameleon tech” suit -- giving him the ability to perfectly mimic the appearance, voice, and mannerisms of anyone the suit comes into contact with.

MAJOR BLUDD (aka Sebastian Bludd)-
A bloodthirsty Aussie whose dirty deeds are for sale to the highest bidder. And nobody bids higher than Cobra. An up-and-comer with something to prove, MAJOR BLUDD is determined to be the greatest mercenary in the world, and earn the giant paycheck that goes with it --especially the bounty attached to the capture (or demise) of the G.I. Joe team.

TOMAX AND XAMOT-
Identical twins with fantastical abilities in hypnotic persuasion and mind control, TOMAX and XAMOT began as crooked cult leaders who harnessed their powers to fleece “Believers” – including BRIAN “MINDBENDER” BENDER. Despite being enslaved by Cobra, the Twins plan to enhance their natural abilities and unleash their wrath upon the world. The key to their success lies in their connection to one another, a telepathic force so strong that if one twin is struck, the other feels every bit of pain.

Notable changes:

-Lady Jaye is Latina now
-Flint is hunting the fugitive JOES for Cobra and Lady Jaye is on his team but secretly helps the Joes.
-Lady Jaye and Duke are a potential item. I suppose there could be a Duke/Jaye/Flint love triangle based on this press release
-Scarlett is apparently a tech expert that got some training from Snake Eyes and hasn't had much combat experience or training previously
-Snake Eyes isn't an official member of the Joe team but comes and goes and helps out. Sounds similar to his association with them in GI JOE: RELOADED
-Ripcord is black like his movie counterpart and apparently a daredevil extreme sports adrenaline junkie. Oh joy.
-Lee Majors playing a one-eyed and bald General Hawk. Hawk gives orders to Flint and Flint's team to bring the fugitive Joes to justice. So Hawk is an unwilling antagonist of sorts to the Joe team now
-Johnny Messner is playing Flint.
 
It's a interesting take to say the least that they are going for the series with some of the Joes being fugitives, but I'm all for for some new interpretation so I don't mind some of the changes, but we'll see if they can pull it off. And yeah Tomax and Xamot is in the show too.
 
Series debut is now "APPARENTLY" set for December and the show has been removed from the 10/10/10 listings. Just to point out though, cable guides and local listings had the show listed for 10/10/10 as well. So this wasn't just a matter of fans only misinterpreting Hasbro.
 
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A press release from The HUB has officially confirmed the GI Joe Renegades Black Friday Premiere! Watch out for the 1st 2 episodes of GI Joe Renegades from 5-6PM EST on November 26th with a preview at 3:30PM. More info from the press release:

The new animated series, a re-imagining of the popular, original series "G.I. Joe A Real American Hero," takes viewers back to the origins of the G.I. Joe storyline, in which the world's most elite renegade force of highly trained specialists are forced to band together to prevent their nemesis, the evil forces of Cobra Industries, from achieving global domination.

"G.I. Joe Renegades" is produced for The Hub by Hasbro Studios. The series is executive produced by Jeff Kline, whose television credits include "Transformers: Prime" and "Jackie Chan Adventures."

Preceding the series debut, The Hub will present a half-hour behind-the-scenes special, "Hub Exclusive: 'G.I. Joe Renegades' and 'Transformers: Prime'" (3:30 p.m. ET), showcasing two original series on The Hub. The special is followed by the world premiere of the first two half-hour episodes (5 p.m. and 5:30 p.m. ET) of "G.I. Joe Renegades." The series will continue in its regular time period, Friday, December 3, with an encore presentation at 5 p.m. ET and a new episode premiere at 5:30 p.m. ET.

Starring in the series premiere are Lee Majors ("The Six Million Dollar Man") as "General Abernathy," and Charlie Adler, the original Cobra Commander from the animated series "G.I. Joe: Resolute," who reprises his role in the new series. "G.I. Joe Renegades" also includes an all-star lineup of story editors, including Marty Isenberg ("Ben 10," "Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles" and "Batman the Animated Series") and Henry Gilroy ("star wars:Clone Wars)("star wars:" "The Tick" and "Batman the Animated Series.")
Credit: General Hawk of the Hiss Tank Forums!

Today has been good so far for GI Joe Renegades fans, seeing the GI Joe Renegades Black Friday Premiere Officially Confirmed. Adding to the excitement, is the 1st clip of Renegades courtesy of IGN!
http://www.ign.com/videos/2010/11/03/exclusive-debut-clip?show=HD
:awesome:
 
GI Joe Renegades Episode Guide
Posted on 11-06-2010 at 10:39 PM by Shin Densetsu


Ever since the premiere date of GI Joe Renegades was pushed back from 10/10/10 to November 10th, and again then to a GI Joe Renegades Black Friday Premiere, officially confirmed this week, fans have been wondering about the lack of Renegades promotion/advertising. Sure we've seen the GI Joe Renegades 1st Clip. Yet on the boards it's pretty obvious that fans want more.

According to new info by MSN, we'll be seeing Major Bludd, Snake Eyes, Storm Shadow, and a Bio-Viper in action soon. Here are episode titles and some descriptions for the 1st 7 episodes:

The Descent: Part 1
A team is sent to investigate a Cobra facility. 11/26

The Descent: Part 2
The Joes track a Cobra bio-viper. 11/26

The Package
Major Bludd tracks down a target for assassination. 12/3

The Return Of The Arashikage Part 1 12/10

The Return Of The Arashikage Part 2 12/17

Homecoming Part 1 12/24

Homecoming Part 1 12/24
 
Premiere promo. This ain't your momma's Cobra! :funny:
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Cobra Industries promo.
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This looks horrible. The animation is just ugly.
 
I'm just not sure I like the way they have COBRA now as a conspiracy type group, hiding behind a "good" public face. They were so open to being a terrorist group in the original.
 
This show is FREAKING AWESOME!!!!


Better than the Rise Of Cobra.
 
I'm just not sure I like the way they have COBRA now as a conspiracy type group, hiding behind a "good" public face. They were so open to being a terrorist group in the original.
It seems to be following the take that the comics took with Cobra. Using the corporation as a front.
 

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